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plain text paste keyboard shortcut doesn't work in FF 33

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hi all

Ok. To my knowledge (and I've checked the mozilla keyboard shortcut listings), CTRL + SHIFT + V performs 'paste as plain text' (some people call this paste special). A really excellent option, if, for example, you're copying from MS word etc and don't want any extraneous crap coming with the text :)

This has definitely worked for me in previous versions of firefox.

However, using FF 33.1, CTRL + SHIFT + V does not currently work (it does nothing). Nothing is pasted.

CTRL + V works fine.

Interestingly, SHIFT + right mouse click paste works too (I suppose it's possible that the SHIFT keystroke is ignored though).

I've checked but there doesn't seem to be a paste special option in the edit menu, just as an alternative.

I am aware of a documented conflict (could just be historical) between the adblock plus sidebar keyboard shortcut and this 'paste as plain text' option in FF.

I've checked in about:config and the relevant preference "extensions.adblockplus.sidebar_key" is set to "Accel Shift U", so no apparent conflict there.

I have of course checked this operation in safe mode and have replicated the problem.

Setup:

firefox 33.1 windows 7 64bit home premium (with all patches, etc)

It would be reassuring if someone could at least replicate this issue (or tell me what I'm doing wrong :) ).


Regards,

Gary

hi all Ok. To my knowledge (and I've checked the mozilla keyboard shortcut listings), CTRL + SHIFT + V performs 'paste as plain text' (some people call this paste special). A really excellent option, if, for example, you're copying from MS word etc and don't want any extraneous crap coming with the text :) This has definitely worked for me in previous versions of firefox. However, using FF 33.1, CTRL + SHIFT + V does not currently work (it does nothing). Nothing is pasted. CTRL + V works fine. Interestingly, SHIFT + right mouse click paste works too (I suppose it's possible that the SHIFT keystroke is ignored though). I've checked but there doesn't seem to be a paste special option in the edit menu, just as an alternative. I am aware of a documented conflict (could just be historical) between the adblock plus sidebar keyboard shortcut and this 'paste as plain text' option in FF. I've checked in about:config and the relevant preference "extensions.adblockplus.sidebar_key" is set to "Accel Shift U", so no apparent conflict there. I have of course checked this operation in safe mode and have replicated the problem. Setup: firefox 33.1 windows 7 64bit home premium (with all patches, etc) It would be reassuring if someone could at least replicate this issue (or tell me what I'm doing wrong :) ). Regards, Gary

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jscher2000
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I wasn't aware that Firefox had a built-in keyboard shortcut to paste as plain text. That would be very useful! But as you say, Ctrl+Shift+v doesn't appear to do anything.

If it wasn't a built-in feature, maybe it was either:

  • A feature of one of your extensions (that has stopped working for some reason)
  • A feature of particular rich text editors (that might have stopped working due to Firefox blocking sites from using JavaScript to access the clipboard a couple versions back)
I wasn't aware that Firefox had a built-in keyboard shortcut to paste as plain text. That would be very useful! But as you say, Ctrl+Shift+v doesn't appear to do anything. If it wasn't a built-in feature, maybe it was either: * A feature of one of your extensions (that has stopped working for some reason) * A feature of particular rich text editors (that might have stopped working due to Firefox blocking sites from using JavaScript to access the clipboard a couple versions back)

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Hi Jscher2000

Thanks for the reply.

It's 100% a feature - I learned about it randomly maybe around a year ago.

It has definitely worked for me in the past.

Also, it's listed in firefox's shortcut keys:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly?redirectlocale=en-US&as=u&redirectslug=Keyboard+shortcuts&utm_source=inproduct#w_editing

Thanks for confirming it doesn't work though!


Regards,

Gary

Hi Jscher2000 Thanks for the reply. It's 100% a feature - I learned about it randomly maybe around a year ago. It has definitely worked for me in the past. Also, it's listed in firefox's shortcut keys: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly?redirectlocale=en-US&as=u&redirectslug=Keyboard+shortcuts&utm_source=inproduct#w_editing Thanks for confirming it doesn't work though! Regards, Gary
jscher2000
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It took me a while to figure out where Ctrl+Shift+v works for me, and that is in an element that is set to contenteditable="true" (it doesn't work in normal forms). The most common use for this is a rich text editing control, such as in a webmail site or blog engine. It could be handy for me in some cases, so thanks for raising this question.

But why isn't yours working in those places? Could there be a different extension conflict?

To rule out an extension conflict, could you test Ctrl+Shift+v in Firefox's Safe Mode? That's a standard diagnostic tool to deactivate extensions and some advanced features of Firefox. More info: Troubleshoot Firefox issues using Safe Mode.

You can restart Firefox in Safe Mode using either:

  • "3-bar" menu button > "?" button > Restart with Add-ons Disabled
  • Help menu > Restart with Add-ons Disabled

Not all add-ons are disabled: Flash and other plugins still run

After Firefox shuts down, a small dialog should appear. Click "Start in Safe Mode" (not Reset).

Any difference?

It took me a while to figure out where Ctrl+Shift+v works for me, and that is in an element that is set to '''contenteditable="true"''' (it doesn't work in normal forms). The most common use for this is a rich text editing control, such as in a webmail site or blog engine. It could be handy for me in some cases, so thanks for raising this question. But why isn't ''yours'' working in those places? Could there be a different extension conflict? To rule out an extension conflict, could you test Ctrl+Shift+v in Firefox's Safe Mode? That's a standard diagnostic tool to deactivate extensions and some advanced features of Firefox. More info: [[Troubleshoot Firefox issues using Safe Mode]]. You can restart Firefox in Safe Mode using either: * "3-bar" menu button > "?" button > Restart with Add-ons Disabled * Help menu > Restart with Add-ons Disabled Not all add-ons are disabled: Flash and other plugins still run After Firefox shuts down, a small dialog should appear. Click "Start in Safe Mode" (''not'' Reset). Any difference?

Question owner

hi Jscher2000

As per my original post, I tested and replicated in safe mode (first thing I did, once I'd discovered the issue).

In regard to "contenteditable="true"", this of course could explain why it didn't work for me. I was trying to post a response on another forum i.e. into a a relatively basic post / thread editor. HTML is apparently switched off in said editor. I tried to switch in on in my profile options but that didn't seem to enable HTML in the editor.

Anyway, the impression I get from you is that contenteditable="true" is not commonly used? Or at least it's only available in select environments?

That's a shame then, because it seems pretty useful for me, to be able to effectively strip out formatting. The only other way I know to do this is to paste text into a .txt file and then copy from there, which is a little cumbersome.


Regards,

Gary

hi Jscher2000 As per my original post, I tested and replicated in safe mode (first thing I did, once I'd discovered the issue). In regard to "contenteditable="true"", this of course could explain why it didn't work for me. I was trying to post a response on another forum i.e. into a a relatively basic post / thread editor. HTML is apparently switched off in said editor. I tried to switch in on in my profile options but that didn't seem to enable HTML in the editor. Anyway, the impression I get from you is that contenteditable="true" is not commonly used? Or at least it's only available in select environments? That's a shame then, because it seems pretty useful for me, to be able to effectively strip out formatting. The only other way I know to do this is to paste text into a .txt file and then copy from there, which is a little cumbersome. Regards, Gary

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jscher2000
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Hi gazzawazza, sites use contenteditable="true" when they want to provide visual formatting while you edit. You can see how this works by making a web page (such as this thread) editable.

First, select and copy this script:

document.body.setAttribute("contenteditable","true");

Next, open the Web Console using Ctrl+Shift+k. It should open in the lower part of the tab below the current page.

Paste the script next to the caret (large ») and press Enter to execute it.

This should make the entire page editable, so you can test pasting in formatted text using both Ctrl+v and Ctrl+Shift+v.

Note: This probably isn't useful on your forum since it may not be possible to submit the form after this kind of hack. Instead, can you find a button there to switch between the code/html view and the visual editor view? Usually it's the visual editor that uses contenteditable.

Hi gazzawazza, sites use contenteditable="true" when they want to provide visual formatting while you edit. You can see how this works by making a web page (such as this thread) editable. First, select and copy this script: document.body.setAttribute("contenteditable","true"); Next, open the Web Console using Ctrl+Shift+k. It should open in the lower part of the tab below the current page. Paste the script next to the caret (large ») and press Enter to execute it. This should make the entire page editable, so you can test pasting in formatted text using both Ctrl+v and Ctrl+Shift+v. Note: This probably isn't useful on your forum since it may not be possible to submit the form after this kind of hack. Instead, can you find a button there to switch between the code/html view and the visual editor view? Usually it's the visual editor that uses contenteditable.

Question owner

hi

Sorry. Didn't work.

With my forum's posting editor active, etc, I got some console errors on opening FF's dev tools.

A jsquery and a php error.

I continued with pasting procedure (got the FF warning requiring "allow pasting").

Entered your script and hit ENTER.

Console log showed your script entered (there was a little grey left triangle, to the left of the code).

Next line down was a little grey right triangle and "undefined".

When I tried CTRL + SHIFT + V in the forum editor form, nothing happened, in terms of pasting (should really have pasted your script IMO i.e. there was stuff on the clipboard).

The only action that occurred was that the main webpage jumped to its lowest point.


Regards,

Gary

hi Sorry. Didn't work. With my forum's posting editor active, etc, I got some console errors on opening FF's dev tools. A jsquery and a php error. I continued with pasting procedure (got the FF warning requiring "allow pasting"). Entered your script and hit ENTER. Console log showed your script entered (there was a little grey left triangle, to the left of the code). Next line down was a little grey right triangle and "undefined". When I tried CTRL + SHIFT + V in the forum editor form, nothing happened, in terms of pasting (should really have pasted your script IMO i.e. there was stuff on the clipboard). The only action that occurred was that the main webpage jumped to its lowest point. Regards, Gary

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jscher2000
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Some editors use a document in an iframe, so in that case, the script would only affect the main document and not the framed document. But actually my goal at this point is just to test for a conflict with the keyboard shortcut. Are you able to Ctrl+Shift+v on this page, or another simple page, after applying contenteditable to it?

Some editors use a document in an iframe, so in that case, the script would only affect the main document and not the framed document. But actually my goal at this point is just to test for a conflict with the keyboard shortcut. Are you able to Ctrl+Shift+v on this page, or another simple page, after applying contenteditable to it?

Question owner

hi again

CTRL + SHIFT + V doesn't work, using your document.body.setAttribute("contenteditable","true"); script.

I've tested again in normal and safe mode.

Having said that, is there a particular point in the page's code where I have to insert it?

I'm using this page to test things btw i.e. I'm trying to use paste as plain text in this reply field.


Cheers,

Gary

hi again CTRL + SHIFT + V doesn't work, using your document.body.setAttribute("contenteditable","true"); script. I've tested again in normal and safe mode. Having said that, is there a particular point in the page's code where I have to insert it? I'm using this page to test things btw i.e. I'm trying to use paste as plain text in this reply field. Cheers, Gary

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FredMcD
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Here are some add-ons and there are others also

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/copy%20plain%20text

Here are some add-ons and there are others also '''https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/copy%20plain%20text'''
jscher2000
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You can tell when a page has been set to contenteditable because you can click anywhere in the text on the page and type new text, delete existing text, cut and paste, etc. Anywhere EXCEPT inside form fields, since those obey their own rules.

So the idea is, assuming you can paste into the page after making it editable (using Ctrl+v), can you also paste without formatting (using Ctrl+Shift+v)?

You can tell when a page has been set to contenteditable because you can click anywhere in the text on the page and type new text, delete existing text, cut and paste, etc. Anywhere EXCEPT inside form fields, since those obey their own rules. So the idea is, assuming you can paste into the page after making it editable (using Ctrl+v), can you also paste without formatting (using Ctrl+Shift+v)?