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Firefox is slower and has less cross integration than chrome, but I still like it better. Can it be faster, more integrated, and better menu system?

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I love the layout of firefox. I generally prefer to use it, because it intuitively suites my needs and expectations. While chrome is much faster, and integrates seamlessly with so many accounts, including third party services and sites, it is still much less pleasant to use. Google, like most of the tech world, is obsessed with pushing the 'tech cool' edge, often abandoning very practical systems, in favor of a 'better looking, new shiny' pursuit of so called progress. Apple, and now microsoft does it way worse, with things like auto hiding scrolling bars, and having menu layout make less and less intuitive, practical sense, and basic features just plain not working(My win10 search bar does not work, even after hours of trying fixes, while at the same time, cortana, a search function I never need to use, is a program that is nearly impossible to stop from always running) This is basically a rant of how computer programming has gone way downhill, and my desire for simple effective design from the days of win98 and winxp. Pocket computers(the phone function is really not even a secondary function, more like one of many applications, and is not even streamlined for regular use) should have buttons, analog control is intuitive, fast, and does not require looking. Remember the days when activating an electronic device meant just feeling for the biggest, easiest to press button? A walkman, or even early mp3 players that had generations old layouts for buttons, so they could be operated with very little thought, and no sight? Now settings are all stuffed into one or two little icons, which open into large lists of menus, none of which are organized or categorized very well. Each program must be studied and memorized individually, and occasionally continued for new releases and programs, even though they are not organized in a practical way. It used to be windows, and for example microsoft word, used a common layout, which was mimicked by most other programs, for simplicity and ease of use. Firefox is one of the last examples of a digital service that values user experience over mindless so called progress, but even it has succumbed to the obfuscated menu system, in an attempt to 'keep up' with the rest of the digital environment(so to manually update firefox, I have to click on 3 lines > help > about firefox > update firefox. Really? And why is the Options menu hidden in the 3 line menu? How is zoom, edit, and restore tabs higher on the priority list than the Options? Why not just have a few actual dropdown menus, like old school windows and mac? Was there a problem with such easy to use and organized access to settings etc? Well this is more than a little OT, but I would really love to hear from anyone about 1. Are these 'progressions of the norm' helpful in some way? and 2. How can we revive the tried and true access methods? Apple has done away with the aux port for their pocket computers, to boost sales of their wireless headphones. We need a strong counter culture that will not take its lead from shameless marketing tactics, and purposeful new obfuscation of access systems that previously worked much better! I apologize for the long OT rant, but I'm really not sure where to post this, the internet feels less like a community, and more like a marketing platform, where consumers are tricked and convinced into believing what is good for sales tactics. I tried switching to linux years ago, but it really lacks cross integration, and requires lengthy long term setup and organization time, which used to be just a couple hours customizing a pre win7 OS. Constructive feedback welcome, even if it is contrary to my statements!

I love the layout of firefox. I generally prefer to use it, because it intuitively suites my needs and expectations. While chrome is much faster, and integrates seamlessly with so many accounts, including third party services and sites, it is still much less pleasant to use. Google, like most of the tech world, is obsessed with pushing the 'tech cool' edge, often abandoning very practical systems, in favor of a 'better looking, new shiny' pursuit of so called progress. Apple, and now microsoft does it way worse, with things like auto hiding scrolling bars, and having menu layout make less and less intuitive, practical sense, and basic features just plain not working(My win10 search bar does not work, even after hours of trying fixes, while at the same time, cortana, a search function I never need to use, is a program that is nearly impossible to stop from always running) This is basically a rant of how computer programming has gone way downhill, and my desire for simple effective design from the days of win98 and winxp. Pocket computers(the phone function is really not even a secondary function, more like one of many applications, and is not even streamlined for regular use) should have buttons, analog control is intuitive, fast, and does not require looking. Remember the days when activating an electronic device meant just feeling for the biggest, easiest to press button? A walkman, or even early mp3 players that had generations old layouts for buttons, so they could be operated with very little thought, and no sight? Now settings are all stuffed into one or two little icons, which open into large lists of menus, none of which are organized or categorized very well. Each program must be studied and memorized individually, and occasionally continued for new releases and programs, even though they are not organized in a practical way. It used to be windows, and for example microsoft word, used a common layout, which was mimicked by most other programs, for simplicity and ease of use. Firefox is one of the last examples of a digital service that values user experience over mindless so called progress, but even it has succumbed to the obfuscated menu system, in an attempt to 'keep up' with the rest of the digital environment(so to manually update firefox, I have to click on 3 lines > help > about firefox > update firefox. Really? And why is the Options menu hidden in the 3 line menu? How is zoom, edit, and restore tabs higher on the priority list than the Options? Why not just have a few actual dropdown menus, like old school windows and mac? Was there a problem with such easy to use and organized access to settings etc? Well this is more than a little OT, but I would really love to hear from anyone about 1. Are these 'progressions of the norm' helpful in some way? and 2. How can we revive the tried and true access methods? Apple has done away with the aux port for their pocket computers, to boost sales of their wireless headphones. We need a strong counter culture that will not take its lead from shameless marketing tactics, and purposeful new obfuscation of access systems that previously worked much better! I apologize for the long OT rant, but I'm really not sure where to post this, the internet feels less like a community, and more like a marketing platform, where consumers are tricked and convinced into believing what is good for sales tactics. I tried switching to linux years ago, but it really lacks cross integration, and requires lengthy long term setup and organization time, which used to be just a couple hours customizing a pre win7 OS. Constructive feedback welcome, even if it is contrary to my statements!

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Hi,

The people who answer questions here, for the most part, are other Firefox users volunteering their time (like me), not Mozilla employees or Firefox developers.

If you want to leave feedback for Firefox developers, you can go to the Firefox Help menu and select Submit Feedback... or use this link. Your feedback gets collected by a team of people who read it and gather data about the most common issues.