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Why can't you re-enable java as an option for users?

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I rely on java to run financial websites I use all day, every day. I also need it for social media sites, internet banking and a host of other sites. The loss of Java in Mozilla has been a huge blow. I tried using the legacy editions with java (after ages trying to find them!) but they are just inadequate - applications still don't run correctly so I have had to abandon them and revert to using IE11 - which has its own problems but at least mean I can use sites again.

There must be millions of users who are lost without this functionality. There may be problems with Java but they are for the most part surmountable and you should in my view make java optional for users rather than impose a solution to a problem that for most people does not exist!

I rely on java to run financial websites I use all day, every day. I also need it for social media sites, internet banking and a host of other sites. The loss of Java in Mozilla has been a huge blow. I tried using the legacy editions with java (after ages trying to find them!) but they are just inadequate - applications still don't run correctly so I have had to abandon them and revert to using IE11 - which has its own problems but at least mean I can use sites again. There must be millions of users who are lost without this functionality. There may be problems with Java but they are for the most part surmountable and you should in my view make java optional for users rather than impose a solution to a problem that for most people does not exist!

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FredMcD
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Hi,

The people who answer questions here, for the most part, are other Firefox users volunteering their time (like me), not Mozilla employees or Firefox developers.

If you want to leave feedback for Firefox developers, you can go to the Firefox Help menu and select Submit Feedback... or use this link. Your feedback gets collected at http://input.mozilla.org/, where a team of people read it and gather data about the most common issues.

Hi, The people who answer questions here, for the most part, are other Firefox users volunteering their time (like me), not Mozilla employees or Firefox developers. If you want to leave feedback for Firefox developers, you can go to the Firefox ''Help'' menu and select ''Submit Feedback...'' or use [https://input.mozilla.org/feedback this link]. Your feedback gets collected at http://input.mozilla.org/, where a team of people read it and gather data about the most common issues.
Happy112
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Hi   !
The Extended Support Release (ESR) of Firefox 52 + will still run Java, Silverlight, etc.
You can download the ESR Firefox version here :
https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/organizations/all/
Windows Users: When you get to the ESR installer list, you'll notice at least two different downloads for Windows: • Windows installer is the standard version for Windows that runs on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista through 10 (and 32-bit XP), the best choice for most users. • Windows 64-bit installer ONLY runs the Flash and Silverlight plugins, so that is not what you're looking for.

Hi &nbsp; !<BR> The Extended Support Release (ESR) of Firefox 52 + will still run Java, Silverlight, etc. <BR> You can download the ESR Firefox version here : <BR> https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/organizations/all/<BR> Windows Users: When you get to the ESR installer list, you'll notice at least two different downloads for Windows: • Windows installer is the standard version for Windows that runs on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista through 10 (and 32-bit XP), the best choice for most users. • Windows 64-bit installer ONLY runs the Flash and Silverlight plugins, so that is not what you're looking for.

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Thanks guys. I did try both those things. I wanted a wider audience for the plea - the feedback form is somewhat impersonal.

On my first attempt to install the ESR it wouldn't work. I don't know why, but I have just tried again and it works, praise be. How long this will continue remains a bit uncertain and the guidance does not suggest this is suitable for individual users, so my plea remains: make this an option for users within the standard edition!

Thanks guys. I did try both those things. I wanted a wider audience for the plea - the feedback form is somewhat impersonal. On my first attempt to install the ESR it wouldn't work. I don't know why, but I have just tried again and it works, praise be. How long this will continue remains a bit uncertain and the guidance does not suggest this is suitable for individual users, so my plea remains: make this an option for users within the standard edition!
philipp
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hi Forwood, the removal of support for all npapi plugins except flash is a done deal that was announced long in advance: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/10/08/npapi-plugins-in-firefox/ other modern browsers like chrome and edge will behave the same.

oracle, the developer of java is also deprecating the java plugin for webbrowsers: https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/moving-to-a-plugin-free-web

so if you want to plea, contact the websites in question so that they switch to proper web technology at last.

hi Forwood, the removal of support for all npapi plugins except flash is a done deal that was announced long in advance: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/10/08/npapi-plugins-in-firefox/ other modern browsers like chrome and edge will behave the same. oracle, the developer of java is also deprecating the java plugin for webbrowsers: https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/moving-to-a-plugin-free-web so if you want to plea, contact the websites in question so that they switch to proper web technology at last.
Happy112
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philipp said

So if you want to plea, contact the websites in question so that they switch to proper web technology at last.

Now here's some excellent advice   !!!

''philipp [[#answer-962968|said]]'' <blockquote> So if you want to plea, contact the websites in question so that they switch to proper web technology at last. </blockquote> Now here's some excellent advice &nbsp; !!!

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That's a tad unrealistic. There are 100s of sites still using java but now only one browser which natively supports it which is IE11.

The main site I use with java said it would take them another year to develop alternatives. I suggest many will be in a similar position where competing demands for software development will squeeze out work on technology that works. In the main, IE will be the browser that benefits, while users lose out.

Whatever, I am satisfied with being able to use the ESR while firms play catch up.

That's a tad unrealistic. There are 100s of sites still using java but now only one browser which natively supports it which is IE11. The main site I use with java said it would take them another year to develop alternatives. I suggest many will be in a similar position where competing demands for software development will squeeze out work on technology that works. In the main, IE will be the browser that benefits, while users lose out. Whatever, I am satisfied with being able to use the ESR while firms play catch up.
Happy112
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Forwood said

That's a tad unrealistic.

Call me stubborn if you like, but I think it's unrealistic to keep using Java, when only one browser still supports the plugin   (and not the best browser on the planet, I may add), and Oracle will be deprecating it's Java browser plugin in the near future.

''Forwood [[#answer-962971|said]]'' <blockquote> That's a tad unrealistic. </blockquote> Call me stubborn if you like, but I think it's unrealistic to keep using Java, when only one browser still supports the plugin &nbsp; (and not the best browser on the planet, I may add), and Oracle will be deprecating it's Java browser plugin in the near future.