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i am on FF 28 for a long time now and i would like to switch to latest 64bit version BUT

i have 1775 tabs which ARE NOT being automatically loaded/opened because i have tab mix plus

and my current FF 28 takes MAX 60 seconds to fully open and load FF but any other version after 28 including FF 40 it takes UNBELIEVABLE 5 MINUTES to start with 1775 tabs

it already is a pain for me to make any version after 28 to resemble and function as 28 i need to do a LOT of setting up searching for add ons restarting etc.. so it takes me some 2 days to fully customize any version after 28 to my

liking and finally start working and ONLY problem i was unable to solve and that is preventing me to upgrade is EXTREMELY SLOW loading and start with 1775 tabs

i tried everything like:

fresh install

no add ons

different settings

etc.... and i still need to wait 5 minutes


AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM NO.2 IS

if FF IS RUNNING and i click on external link new tab opens next to active one AND THAT IS OK

and if i am example on tab 501 and i close ( ANY VERSION OF FF ) and start it again it will open where i left it AND THAT IS OK

BUT if i close FF and click on any external link like in Steam or Windows it will open a new tab on the END so than in need to double click and scroll 3 minutes OR MORE to get where i was


so here is what i do i install new version of FF and just copy sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js in c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\4j0mi1a7.USER\


AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM NO.3 IS when it happens that power goes off or i get BSOD which i got 2 times in 5 years until 2 months ago and that was related to a game and memory timings and it is resolved

i lose sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js

so EVERY day SEVERAL times i must back up

sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js

because i once lost 2000+ tabs



My PC Specs in case you need them


OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 8.1 Update 3 Enterprise X64 ( Updated every second Tuesday in a month between 4 and 7pm )

DRIVERS SOFTWARE AND TOOLS ALL: Updated OR NOT 36 hours after new version comes out ( because sometimes there are bugs and unwanted features )

ANTI VIRUS: Avast Premier v.10.3.2225 ( DISABLED while gaming )

INTERNET: Bandwidth Down/Up (kbps) 10240/1023

MODEM: Huawei HG 531 ( with my custom cooling ) LAN Cable Hamma CAT6 ( TEST with WinMtr 0.92 X64 on IP "173.234.224.50" = 0 ZERO packet loss )

MOTHERBOARD: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Bios v.2501

PROCESSOR: AMD FX 8350

THERMAL PASTE: Arctic MX 4 ( Apply method single pea sized drop on a middle of DIE ( AND YES I REMOVED STICKER FROM A COPPER PLATE )

PROCESSOR COOLING: Cooler Master Nepton 240M ( Custom Fans Push 2x Noctua NF-F12-PWM Pull 2x Noctua NF-S12A-PWM Exhaust outside Case )

MEMORY: Patriot Viper 3 PV38G213C1K 2x4 GB Timings 10-10-11-24-27

GRAPHIC CARD: Spphire Vapor-X R9 280X 3GB GDDR5 TRI-X OC With Boost (UEFI)

BLUETOOTH: Asus BT 400 ( Inside PC case )

SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 128 GB

( OPERATING SYSTEM, PROGRAMS AND ONLY GAMES THAT I PLAY ONLINE ARE ON SSD )

HDD 1: Western Digital Blue WD2500AAKX

HDD 2: Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX

( NO RAID - HDD'S USED ONLY FOR STORAGE AND OFFLINE GAMING )

CD ROM: Samsung SH-224DB Firmware v.SB01

FAN CONTROLLER AND TEMPERATURE MONITOR: NZXT Sentry LX ( Only NORTH BRIDGE custom mounted Noctua NF-A8 FLX is Controlled with NZXT all other fans are controlled by Motherboard )

POWER SUPPLY: Cooler Master V850 ( Down side up )

PC CASE: Thermaltake Urban R31 ( With MY Custom modifications )

FANS:

Intake Front 2x Noctua NF-S12A PWM Exhaust Top 2x Noctua NF-F12 PWM Exhaust Top/Back 3x Noctua NF-S12A PWM Exhaust Side 1x Noctua NF-A9X14 PWM

Additional Exhaust from: Power Supply AND Graphic Card

TEMPERATURES:

WHILE PLAYING "Crysis 3" ALL ON MAX PROCESSOR: 40 C GRAPHIC CARD: 50-60-70 C NORTH BRIDGE With custom mounted Noctua NF-A8 FLX 30+ C EVERYTHING ELSE FROM 23/25/35 C WINTER AMBIENT TEMPERATURE 24 C

NO OVERCLOCK ALL OTHER GAMES WORK FINE 60+ FPS ( CRYSIS 3 ALL MAX 1080p AT 60+ FPS ) NO OTHER PROGRAMS RUNNING IN A BACKGROUND


IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ME i can record an audio file on English with explanation and send it to you

Pls excuse my spelling


can you please fix that loading so i can upgrade?


Thanks

/1AGRESSOR

i am on FF 28 for a long time now and i would like to switch to latest 64bit version BUT i have 1775 tabs which ARE NOT being automatically loaded/opened because i have tab mix plus and my current FF 28 takes MAX 60 seconds to fully open and load FF but any other version after 28 including FF 40 it takes UNBELIEVABLE 5 MINUTES to start with 1775 tabs it already is a pain for me to make any version after 28 to resemble and function as 28 i need to do a LOT of setting up searching for add ons restarting etc.. so it takes me some 2 days to fully customize any version after 28 to my liking and finally start working and ONLY problem i was unable to solve and that is preventing me to upgrade is EXTREMELY SLOW loading and start with 1775 tabs i tried everything like: fresh install no add ons different settings etc.... and i still need to wait 5 minutes AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM NO.2 IS if FF IS RUNNING and i click on external link new tab opens next to active one AND THAT IS OK and if i am example on tab 501 and i close ( ANY VERSION OF FF ) and start it again it will open where i left it AND THAT IS OK BUT if i close FF and click on any external link like in Steam or Windows it will open a new tab on the END so than in need to double click and scroll 3 minutes OR MORE to get where i was so here is what i do i install new version of FF and just copy sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js in c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\4j0mi1a7.USER\ AND THE MAJOR PROBLEM NO.3 IS when it happens that power goes off or i get BSOD which i got 2 times in 5 years until 2 months ago and that was related to a game and memory timings and it is resolved i lose sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js so EVERY day SEVERAL times i must back up sessionstore.bak sessionstore.js because i once lost 2000+ tabs My PC Specs in case you need them OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 8.1 Update 3 Enterprise X64 ( Updated every second Tuesday in a month between 4 and 7pm ) DRIVERS SOFTWARE AND TOOLS ALL: Updated OR NOT 36 hours after new version comes out ( because sometimes there are bugs and unwanted features ) ANTI VIRUS: Avast Premier v.10.3.2225 ( DISABLED while gaming ) INTERNET: Bandwidth Down/Up (kbps) 10240/1023 MODEM: Huawei HG 531 ( with my custom cooling ) LAN Cable Hamma CAT6 ( TEST with WinMtr 0.92 X64 on IP "173.234.224.50" = 0 ZERO packet loss ) MOTHERBOARD: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Bios v.2501 PROCESSOR: AMD FX 8350 THERMAL PASTE: Arctic MX 4 ( Apply method single pea sized drop on a middle of DIE ( AND YES I REMOVED STICKER FROM A COPPER PLATE ) PROCESSOR COOLING: Cooler Master Nepton 240M ( Custom Fans Push 2x Noctua NF-F12-PWM Pull 2x Noctua NF-S12A-PWM Exhaust outside Case ) MEMORY: Patriot Viper 3 PV38G213C1K 2x4 GB Timings 10-10-11-24-27 GRAPHIC CARD: Spphire Vapor-X R9 280X 3GB GDDR5 TRI-X OC With Boost (UEFI) BLUETOOTH: Asus BT 400 ( Inside PC case ) SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 128 GB ( OPERATING SYSTEM, PROGRAMS AND ONLY GAMES THAT I PLAY ONLINE ARE ON SSD ) HDD 1: Western Digital Blue WD2500AAKX HDD 2: Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX ( NO RAID - HDD'S USED ONLY FOR STORAGE AND OFFLINE GAMING ) CD ROM: Samsung SH-224DB Firmware v.SB01 FAN CONTROLLER AND TEMPERATURE MONITOR: NZXT Sentry LX ( Only NORTH BRIDGE custom mounted Noctua NF-A8 FLX is Controlled with NZXT all other fans are controlled by Motherboard ) POWER SUPPLY: Cooler Master V850 ( Down side up ) PC CASE: Thermaltake Urban R31 ( With MY Custom modifications ) FANS: Intake Front 2x Noctua NF-S12A PWM Exhaust Top 2x Noctua NF-F12 PWM Exhaust Top/Back 3x Noctua NF-S12A PWM Exhaust Side 1x Noctua NF-A9X14 PWM Additional Exhaust from: Power Supply AND Graphic Card TEMPERATURES: WHILE PLAYING "Crysis 3" ALL ON MAX PROCESSOR: 40 C GRAPHIC CARD: 50-60-70 C NORTH BRIDGE With custom mounted Noctua NF-A8 FLX 30+ C EVERYTHING ELSE FROM 23/25/35 C WINTER AMBIENT TEMPERATURE 24 C NO OVERCLOCK ALL OTHER GAMES WORK FINE 60+ FPS ( CRYSIS 3 ALL MAX 1080p AT 60+ FPS ) NO OTHER PROGRAMS RUNNING IN A BACKGROUND IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ME i can record an audio file on English with explanation and send it to you Pls excuse my spelling can you please fix that loading so i can upgrade? Thanks /1AGRESSOR

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cor-el
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Note that the current release no longer uses sessionstore.bak but uses the sessionstore-backups folder instead.

previous.js (cleanBackup: copy of sessionstore.js from previous session that was loaded successfully)
recovery.js (latest version of the sessionstore written during runtime)
recovery.bak (previous version of the sessionstore written during runtime)
upgrade.js-<build_id> (backup created during an upgrade of Firefox)

The sessionstore.js file in the profile folder is still used to store session data, but is only present when Firefox is closed.

The sessionstore.js file is created from recovery.js when you close Firefox and is removed and copied to previous.js when you start Firefox.

You can copy a file from the sessionstore-backups folder to the main profile and rename the file to sessionstore.js to replace the current file (make a backup copy of the current sessionstore.js).


If you wait (too) long to update then it is possible that some files are not fully compatible the the current release and you can experience issues.

Are you restoring all tabs on startup?

  • Tools > Options > General > Startup: "Don't load tabs until selected"

The "Don't load tabs until selected" setting toggles the browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand pref on the about:config page. There is a browser.sessionstore.restore_pinned_tabs_on_demand pref for pinned tabs that isn't affected by the setting in Options/Preferences.

browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand
browser.sessionstore.restore_pinned_tabs_on_demand

You can open the about:config page via the location/address bar. You can accept the warning and click "I'll be careful" to continue.

Note that the current release no longer uses sessionstore.bak but uses the sessionstore-backups folder instead. previous.js (cleanBackup: copy of sessionstore.js from previous session that was loaded successfully) recovery.js (latest version of the sessionstore written during runtime) recovery.bak (previous version of the sessionstore written during runtime) upgrade.js-<build_id> (backup created during an upgrade of Firefox) The sessionstore.js file in the profile folder is still used to store session data, but is only present when Firefox is closed. The sessionstore.js file is created from recovery.js when you close Firefox and is removed and copied to previous.js when you start Firefox. You can copy a file from the sessionstore-backups folder to the main profile and rename the file to sessionstore.js to replace the current file (make a backup copy of the current sessionstore.js). ----- If you wait (too) long to update then it is possible that some files are not fully compatible the the current release and you can experience issues. Are you restoring all tabs on startup? *Tools > Options > General > Startup: "Don't load tabs until selected" The "Don't load tabs until selected" setting toggles the browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand pref on the about:config page. There is a browser.sessionstore.restore_pinned_tabs_on_demand pref for pinned tabs that isn't affected by the setting in Options/Preferences. browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand browser.sessionstore.restore_pinned_tabs_on_demand You can open the <b>about:config</b> page via the location/address bar. You can accept the warning and click "I'll be careful" to continue. *http://kb.mozillazine.org/about:config
Tyler Downer
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I wonder why you felt you needed to vclog this thread up with soooooo much unnecessary information?

Have you looked into more effective tab management rather than just leaving nearly 2k tabs oppen at all times?

I wonder why you felt you needed to vclog this thread up with soooooo much unnecessary information? Have you looked into more effective tab management rather than just leaving nearly 2k tabs oppen at all times?

Question owner

Tabs are being loaded only when i click on them

and if by unnecessary info you mean PC specs that is just copy paste from a .txt file that i keep in need of troubleshooting in games and other app's

from my experience in games, os , and app's problem resolving more info the better

Tabs are being loaded only when i click on them and if by unnecessary info you mean PC specs that is just copy paste from a .txt file that i keep in need of troubleshooting in games and other app's from my experience in games, os , and app's problem resolving more info the better

Question owner

and i already explained everything about how tabs are being opened and loading times on the very beginning in my first post

and when i try to install new version of FF i first uninstall v28 and delete both of these folders

c:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Mozilla\ c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\

and than i install new version with just tab mix plus and i copy sessionstore.js in c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\4j0mi1a7.USER\

and i already explained everything about how tabs are being opened and loading times on the very beginning in my first post and when i try to install new version of FF i first uninstall v28 and delete both of these folders c:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Mozilla\ c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ and than i install new version with just tab mix plus and i copy sessionstore.js in c:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\4j0mi1a7.USER\

Question owner

i just did a test with 1777 tabs

FF 28 with 18 active add ons themes etc....

1 minute 11 seconds before i can start working

FF 40b9 only one add on tab mix plus

3 minutes before i can start working

maybe if you can give me a link to 64bit install only for FF 39 or 40 because i goggled and searched everywhere and i can't find 64bit FF

i just did a test with 1777 tabs FF 28 with 18 active add ons themes etc.... 1 minute 11 seconds before i can start working FF 40b9 only one add on tab mix plus 3 minutes before i can start working maybe if you can give me a link to 64bit install only for FF 39 or 40 because i goggled and searched everywhere and i can't find 64bit FF
cor-el
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Are all those tabs normal tabs (not pinned) and are you restoring all those tabs?

What is the size of the sessionstore.js file?

The sessionstore.js file is only present in the Firefox profile folder when Firefox is closed.

You can use this button to go to the current Firefox profile folder:

If those tabs have a large back/forward history then this can add to the size of the sessionstore.js file and the processing of the file on startup.

Are all those tabs normal tabs (not pinned) and are you restoring all those tabs? What is the size of the sessionstore.js file? The sessionstore.js file is only present in the Firefox profile folder when Firefox is closed. You can use this button to go to the current Firefox profile folder: *Help > Troubleshooting Information > Profile Directory: Show Folder (Linux: Open Directory; Mac: Show in Finder) *http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox If those tabs have a large back/forward history then this can add to the size of the sessionstore.js file and the processing of the file on startup.

Question owner

size of sessionstore.js is 3 mb

tabs are not pined nor private just normal tabs

yes tabs are restored every time i start ff

i did follow this manual

Note that the current release no longer uses sessionstore.bak but uses the sessionstore-backups folder instead.

previous.js (cleanBackup: copy of sessionstore.js from previous session that was loaded successfully) recovery.js (latest version of the sessionstore written during runtime) recovery.bak (previous version of the sessionstore written during runtime) upgrade.js-<build_id> (backup created during an upgrade of Firefox)

The sessionstore.js file in the profile folder is still used to store session data, but is only present when Firefox is closed.

The sessionstore.js file is created from recovery.js when you close Firefox and is removed and copied to previous.js when you start Firefox.

You can copy a file from the sessionstore-backups folder to the main profile and rename the file to sessionstore.js to replace the current file (make a backup copy of the current sessionstore.js).

and it worked BUT as i said to slow 3+ minutes

size of sessionstore.js is 3 mb tabs are not pined nor private just normal tabs yes tabs are restored every time i start ff i did follow this manual Note that the current release no longer uses sessionstore.bak but uses the sessionstore-backups folder instead. previous.js (cleanBackup: copy of sessionstore.js from previous session that was loaded successfully) recovery.js (latest version of the sessionstore written during runtime) recovery.bak (previous version of the sessionstore written during runtime) upgrade.js-<build_id> (backup created during an upgrade of Firefox) The sessionstore.js file in the profile folder is still used to store session data, but is only present when Firefox is closed. The sessionstore.js file is created from recovery.js when you close Firefox and is removed and copied to previous.js when you start Firefox. You can copy a file from the sessionstore-backups folder to the main profile and rename the file to sessionstore.js to replace the current file (make a backup copy of the current sessionstore.js). and it worked BUT as i said to slow 3+ minutes
cor-el
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Do you really have to restore all those tabs on a (re)start?

If you chose not to restore all those tabs then you can shorten the startup time considerately.

  • Tools > Options > General > Startup: "Don't load tabs until selected"
Do you really have to restore all those tabs on a (re)start? If you chose not to restore all those tabs then you can shorten the startup time considerately. *Tools > Options > General > Startup: "Don't load tabs until selected"

Question owner

when i start FF i can see all the tabs and the are greyed out and are being loaded only when i click on them

when i start FF i can see all the tabs and the are greyed out and are being loaded only when i click on them

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here http://i.imgur.com/kuGte7G.jpg
Tyler Downer
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Something you've ignored multiple times is, Why are you trying to load almost 2k tabs? Firefox has multiples tab management solutions, either built in (Bookmarks, Tab Groups, etc.) or via add-ons that would make this much better. The browser isn't used to start up with that many tabs very often, so it's not odd that it's slow

Something you've ignored multiple times is, Why are you trying to load almost 2k tabs? Firefox has multiples tab management solutions, either built in (Bookmarks, Tab Groups, etc.) or via add-ons that would make this much better. The browser isn't used to start up with that many tabs very often, so it's not odd that it's slow

Question owner

Tyler Downer said

Something you've ignored multiple times is, Why are you trying to load almost 2k tabs? Firefox has multiples tab management solutions, either built in (Bookmarks, Tab Groups, etc.) or via add-ons that would make this much better. The browser isn't used to start up with that many tabs very often, so it's not odd that it's slow

this is the only tab management that suits me the best i tried other solutions

tabs are not being loaded till i click on them

and FF 28 is not so slow but any version after 28 is as you can see in posts above

''Tyler Downer [[#answer-762920|said]]'' <blockquote> Something you've ignored multiple times is, Why are you trying to load almost 2k tabs? Firefox has multiples tab management solutions, either built in (Bookmarks, Tab Groups, etc.) or via add-ons that would make this much better. The browser isn't used to start up with that many tabs very often, so it's not odd that it's slow </blockquote> this is the only tab management that suits me the best i tried other solutions tabs are not being loaded till i click on them and FF 28 is not so slow but any version after 28 is as you can see in posts above

Question owner

ok thanks for "help" ill stay on 28 for a year or two more maybe by that time any future version of FF will be faster than 28

ok thanks for "help" ill stay on 28 for a year or two more maybe by that time any future version of FF will be faster than 28
James
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Keep in mind that Firefox 28.0 is getting increasingly more vulnerable as it does not have any of the security patches since, many of which were critical. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/

Keep in mind that Firefox 28.0 is getting increasingly more vulnerable as it does not have any of the security patches since, many of which were critical. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/

Question owner

i don't have a choice

i don't have a choice
finitarry 251 solutions 3421 answers

Why do you need to have so many tabs? You could bookmark those pages and open them only when you need them. That is what bookmarks are for - storing pages.

Why do you need to have so many tabs? You could bookmark those pages and open them only when you need them. That is what bookmarks are for - storing pages.