Some gmail gets to TB without showing up in gmail web site
I have 2 gmail accounts. Mail comes to TB from them. If I get spam in TB, I go to the gmail web interface, find the message in my inbox, and mark it as spam. All has worked well till recently. Now I am getting many spam mails in TB that are not even showing up in the gmail interface. It is like they are coming to TB without really going through gmail. Is there anything I can do besides marking these offending messages as junk in TB?
TB on Mac version 52.5.2 MacOS 10.13.2
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You have to recognize that you might have both Junk and Spam, and they are different.
If it's been put into your Spam folder then Gmail have already categorized it as such, and going to their website to do it again is rather a waste of time.
You can signal to Gmail that if a message has been marked as Spam and you want them to know it's a good message, all you need to do (in theory) is move it back to the account's Inbox. You can do this in Thunderbird.
If it's marked as Junk then Thunderbird did this for you (and if it isn't being marked as Spam then Gmail missed it!)
<rant>Right now, all my messages from this forum, and from its sister newsgroup are being marked as Spam by Gmail, and there seems to be no way to persuade them otherwise. Grrr!</rant>
I understand what you are staying but that isn't my situation. I will give an example. I received in TB a message from "no-reply@bewailed.slimcozy.eu" entitled "Your reword worth $50 is readyjpu8." It was addressed to my gmail address. I looked on the gmail web site wanting to mark the message as spam but it wasn't on the gmail website - anywhere - not in my inbox and not in spam. How is that possible?
Both accounts using IMAP?
No pop
So by default, all mail arrives in the mailserver's mailbox and is passed on down to you via Thunderbird, and immediately deleted (unless you set Thunderbird to leave a copy on the server). If the POP server thinks anything is Spam, it would normally label it so, but leave it in the Inbox to be passed on to your client (because with POP, you can't see any other folders on the server. It would be counterproductive to move spammy messages to the server's Spam folder.)
If you're getting "bad" messages in your Inbox then that suggests to me that gmail didn't think it was spam. If messages are labelled as Spam then all is working as one would expect.
I have it stay on the server.
On the web interface I see the inbox and spam. The messages I am talking about (only a few - perhaps 2%) that come to TB are not in either inbox or spam on the web.
Did you check the gmail webmail account 'All Mail' folder or the gmail 'Bin'/Trash folder ?
Yes - nothing there.
I can live with it. Whatever the problem it is complicated.