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Why is it so hard to find an offline installer?

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Please can someone tell me why it's so hard to find an offline installer? I googled it and searched the forums and most of the links either don't work or send me to get online installers.

Also why don't they put 2 download links on the main page? 1 for download online installer and 1 for offline installer?

After about half an hour of searching i found a proper link to an offline installer that works. I wanted to thank brookspd who posted a question 2 years ago and one of the moderators responded. His hope was that his post would help and it helped immensly.

I understand that the forum is huge and there are many posts, is there any way of deleting all the posts of offline installers that don't actually help and put this one up? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ , it's the only one that i've personally found that actually works. I'm sure i'm not the only fustrated one here.

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Mozilla has changed the www.mozilla.org pages a bit over the years. It used to have "Download in another language" link below the green Download Firefox button. Now they give you a link to it on next page after you click on the green Download Firefox.

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Mozilla has changed the www.mozilla.org pages a bit over the years. It used to have "Download in another language" link below the green Download Firefox button. Now they give you a link to it on next page after you click on the green Download Firefox.

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Thanks a lot, I have tried and it works. Is there any way of labelling it "offline installers" or something that help people find it?

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Ardently said

I understand that the forum is huge and there are many posts, is there any way of deleting all the posts of offline installers that don't actually help and put this one up? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ , it's the only one that i've personally found that actually works. I'm sure i'm not the only fustrated one here.

Hi,

If you're frustrated , there are many websites offering direct links to latest mozilla firefox downloads. You can bookmark one of these sites or remember site name and whenever you need insaller simply search firefox offline installer sitename. You'll surely get it.

Here is the 1 suggested for https://www. .com/download_firefox/ firefox offline installer Latest Version firefox latest offline installer everytime.

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No need to link to a random unofficial download site to get Firefox. These sites tend to only have en-US Windows versions and this one is by default linking to current Beta build and not the current Release.

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Ardently said

I understand that the forum is huge and there are many posts, is there any way of deleting all the posts of offline installers that don't actually help and put this one up? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ , it's the only one that i've personally found that actually works. I'm sure i'm not the only fustrated one here.

Or hit up the FTP site:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

every (?) mozilla sanctioned release. easily allows you to get to the ESR's all langs, etc. Its no frills FTP in HTTP form, but also means no ads, no distractions, no BS.

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TreborG2 said

Or hit up the FTP site: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ every (?) mozilla sanctioned release. easily allows you to get to the ESR's all langs, etc. Its no frills FTP in HTTP form, but also means no ads, no distractions, no BS.

There is no FTP any more as the actual FTP protocol which was ftp://ftp.mozilla.org was turned off back on August 5, 2015.

In fact Mozilla would prefer you use http://archive.mozilla.org instead of http://ftp.mozilla.org

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James said

TreborG2 said
Or hit up the FTP site: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ every (?) mozilla sanctioned release. easily allows you to get to the ESR's all langs, etc. Its no frills FTP in HTTP form, but also means no ads, no distractions, no BS.

There is no FTP any more as the actual FTP protocol which was ftp://ftp.mozilla.org was turned off back on August 5, 2015.

In fact Mozilla would prefer you use http://archive.mozilla.org instead of http://ftp.mozilla.org

I'm sorry James but you didn't properly look at the URL .. nor did you read "Its no frills FTP in HTTP form"

If you wish to pick nits that I called it FTP not intending to mean the Protocol URI rather than URL well that's fine..

Second I don't give one rats a** what mozilla would prefer, the moment they claimed that NPAPI was the cause of all their slowness and then were proven wrong by Palemoon, Basalisk, and a few others which also did 64 bit, and at the same time managed to completely destroy an entire ecosystem that *MANY* people prefer .. mozilla lost all say in "preferences"

You want to argue the point of how "special" mozilla is .. look no further than adding a site exception when going to problem SSL sites .. its a security barrier to give non-informed users a second chance at not going to said "bad sites" but yet when you go in to add the exception anyway .. their default posture is to default the "Permanently Add" option, rather than requiring the user to manually select that.

Same effect from hiding Protocol URI information in the first place, just because many people don't know or don't care, doesn't mean removal (trimurl) is a good or secure thing.

Proper security, proper choice comes from informed and consented decision making and since 38.x FF mozilla has been getting worse and worse.

eg. If I wanted chrome I'd run chrome.

As it stands I've run FF itself on esr 45.9 for the better part of the past year, and in October started actively seeking out Forks and since then have run FF maybe 2 to 5 times in a month by choice, several times only because Palemoon barfed on an SSL Cert

/soapbox.

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The point is that https://ftp.mozilla.org is one specific server and isn't setup to handle a large amount of request like the normally used CDN servers I posted above that have load balancing.

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TreborG2 said

Second I don't give one rats a** what mozilla would prefer, the moment they claimed that NPAPI was the cause of all their slowness and then were proven wrong by Palemoon, Basalisk, and a few others which also did 64 bit, and at the same time managed to completely destroy an entire ecosystem that *MANY* people prefer .. mozilla lost all say in "preferences"

Firefox has been available as 64-bit (Win64) for Release on Windows since Firefox 42.0 (before that the code was not considered stable for Release despite what the forks authors may have claimed in building from source before then) and Win64 was listed on www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ ever since the Firefox 43.0 Release. 64-bit Firefox has been available on Linux and Mac OSX since Firefox 4.0 as it was actually needed unlike on Windows.

Pale Moon and Basalisk is running into difficulties https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18211

There have been different reasons why NPAPI Plugins besides Flash Player has not been allowed to run in Firefox Releases since 52.0 but is still allowed to run in Firefox 52 ESR (need 32-bit version on Windows for other Plugins besides Flash and Silverlight). https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins

Oracle has been depreciating their vulnerable NPAPI Java Plugin as of java 9, still available in Java 8. Only IE and Firefox 52 ESR sill supports NPAPI Java Plugin from Java 8 (not counting any of those pretender forks).

Chrome, Chromium and Opera have dropped support of NPAPI Plugins since Sept 2015 so even less of a reason for websites to use Plugins outside of Flash Player.

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James said

Firefox has been available as 64-bit (Win64) for Release on Windows since Firefox 42.0 (before that the code was not considered stable for Release despite what the forks authors may have claimed in building from source before then) and Win64 was listed on www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ ever since the Firefox 43.0 Release. 64-bit Firefox has been available on Linux and Mac OSX since Firefox 4.0 as it was actually needed unlike on Windows. Pale Moon and Basalisk is running into difficulties https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18211 There have been different reasons why NPAPI Plugins besides Flash Player has not been allowed to run in Firefox Releases since 52.0 but is still allowed to run in Firefox 52 ESR (need 32-bit version on Windows for other Plugins besides Flash and Silverlight). https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins Oracle has been depreciating their vulnerable NPAPI Java Plugin as of java 9, still available in Java 8. Only IE and Firefox 52 ESR sill supports NPAPI Java Plugin from Java 8 (not counting any of those pretender forks). Chrome, Chromium and Opera have dropped support of NPAPI Plugins since Sept 2015 so even less of a reason for websites to use Plugins outside of Flash Player.

First .. yes.. and the hardships Palemoon and Basalisk are running into, is because the code and direction Mozilla decided to go in, rather than supporting the code and direction everyone came to Firefox for in the first place! Extensions.

Yes, new extensions "web" garbage .. I'd have no problem with them IF they had functionality but they don't. I'm a desktop user, I'm on the computer 12 to 20 hours every day and probably 70% of *THAT* time I'm two hands on the keyboard or one hand on the keyboard the other on the mouse clicking dragging etc.

What I don't need, is to minimize the tasks I can do without stopping, such as Forcast Fox (fix version) which now is going stale because they chose to follow the great god almighty mozilla .. I can, without stopping look down and see Temperature now, see icons change as weather conditions do, AND have many other bits of information all along my status bar without a single on-hover or actual diversion of my right hand to the mouse just to go on hover or click (taking focus away from what my keyboard is in/on) etc.

I have in use 99% of my day 3 primary browsers .. .. Salesforce in Chrome (still hate that too) ... .. Vivaldi .. a more sensible chrome fork .. oh and what do they have? a status bar at the bottom fully active all the time.. in Vivaldi I have 2 panes open one with search and other options, the second with a set of startup tabs to activate the company Google Apps in (gmail, calendar, drive, etc) .. 3rd? the browser I use 99% of the time for all other work not related directly to salesforce or the company google apps. Why? Because I keep the activities separate.

I have 12 tabs across two instances of Palemoon, only 5 tabs in chrome (salesforce) at this time, and 7 tabs open between my 2 vivaldi sessions.

imagine putting 24 tabs (a smaller amount of the 43 total programs running now) into one browser and trying to switch between everything.

And why do I tirade on firefox .. because the moment they left npapi behind most of the activity I could do in that browser was gone. I'd have to stop to get quick weather .. have to constantly "on hover" a link if I wanted to manually transpose it to another program or app window in which "copy/paste" is not possible (ilo, idrac, most VMWare consoles unless runnling locally and even then vmware is littered with "copy/paste doesn't work" board posts).

I'm all about doing what I need to do, to get things done .. and that is NOT Firefox any more. I put up *for years* with the slow "laggy" response of starting firefox, the memory pig issues its had (not like any of the others were saints mind you) but then switch to pale moon and find out almost immediately that all the extensions I use work, and contrary to the Mozilla lie that the NPAPI's were slowing it down and hence why "it had to change" .. the same extensions in PM worked flawlessly and it was 20 times faster (ok, not rated, but by personal observation 1 to 2 seconds for startup vs 20 or more from double click to seeing and another 5 or 10 to be able to "click" in the url bar)

ANYWAY .. like I said.. .. don't give one rats a** what Mozilla "prefers" we do, their preferences are wholly irrelevant .. the only thing I give them credit for, is having the ability to stand up to IE for all these years.. and given the juggernaut that google forced chrome into being I don't begrudge they "had" to do something but by cloning the look of chrome (people have openly disliked) by removing the common framework for security awareness because "people didn't understand" or for the stupidity of bucking that which made people continue to choose firefox (the plugin and ecosystem) over the others .. Mozilla lost with me.

I'm just a no body .. could care less at this point ... but the points I've made regarding Mozilla and FF's direction are 100% valid, the dev team in their infinite wisdom (sarcastic) cripple the browser with supposed "security" decisions because they pandered to the idiots that probably shouldn't own computers and could get just as easily by with Android tablets ...

Lastly .. Choice .. if a user chooses to .. they shouldn't come up to that blockade that says "this far and no farther" My first hate of FF was when *they* decided self signed certs, no matter how malformed, or how weak their encryption were to be treated with blockade after blockade for bs reasons. You give the user a choice .. they choose to go to a site, they choose to install some hack from a video plug in.. that's their stupidity .. at some point they will either wise up .. or like i said.. not own a full computer any more.. and go to android.

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