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  1. vesper
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    This is the main L10n forum thread for localizers who translate SUMO into German (Deutsch) (de).

    Locale Leaders, Reviewers and Editors - please subscribe to this thread using the "Watch this thread" function.

    Please note, all globally important updates will be posted in the main forum as usual.

    Please use this thread to communicate, post updates, ask questions and greet new localizers.

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    This is the main L10n forum thread for localizers who translate SUMO into '''German (Deutsch) (de)'''. Locale Leaders, Reviewers and Editors - please subscribe to this thread using the "Watch this thread" function. Please note, all '''globally''' important updates will be posted in the main forum as usual. Please use this thread to communicate, post updates, ask questions and greet new localizers. '''Useful Links''' (if you want to add something here, please [https://support.mozilla.org/user/vesper PM me]) [https://support.mozilla.org/groups/german-localization Locale group] [https://support.mozilla.org/kb/locales/de Locale Leaders, Reviewers] [https://support.mozilla.org/de/localization Articles that need work - the dashboard] [https://support.mozilla.org/community/top-contributors/l10n?locale=de Community hub - l10n] [https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Teams:de Global l10n team (MozWiki)] [https://support.mozilla.org/kb/localize-mozilla-support Getting started with localizing SUMO] [https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/how-translate-sumo-kb-articles-german German Style Guide for SUMO]

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  2. vesper
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    Hello, German l10ns!

    We are looking for iOS 8 users who want to help us test Firefox for iOS in different languages, including German.

    What do you need to have?

    What do you need to do?

    If you are interested or have any questions, do get in touch with Roland.

    Have a good weekend!

    Hello, German l10ns! We are looking for iOS 8 users who want to help us test Firefox for iOS in different languages, including German. What do you need to have? * A device that runs iOS 8 (iPhones, iPads, iPods - here's a list: https://www.apple.com/ca/ios/whats-new/) * A bit of time (2-4 hours a week) What do you need to do? * First, [https://support.mozilla.org/user/rtanglao get in touch with Roland - he is the main organizer of this] * Test Firefox for iOS & report any issues you see. Initially, it will be English only, but as soon as we get the localized builds, you'll get them, too. * Help localize the new iOS articles If you are interested or have any questions, do [https://support.mozilla.org/user/rtanglao get in touch with Roland]. Have a good weekend!
  3. vesper
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    Hello, German l10ns!

    As you may know, Pocket integration will be arriving for German in 38.0.5. We have a few articles that reflect this update that you can localize:

    (taken from Bug 1163848)

    There's also a question of the new feature's UI being properly localizable, the discussion of which you can follow in Bug 1161138.

    More news as we get them.

    Cheers, Michał

    Hello, German l10ns! As you may know, Pocket integration will be arriving for German in 38.0.5. We have a few articles that reflect this update that you can localize: * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/where-pocket-button-firefox * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/disable-pocket-firefo * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/save-web-pages-read-later-pocket-firefox * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/sign-pocket-your-firefox-account * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/access-mozilla-services-firefox-accounts * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/enjoy-clutter-free-web-pages-reader-view * https://support.mozilla.org/kb/log-pocket-your-firefox-account ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1163848 taken from Bug 1163848]) There's also a question of the new feature's UI being properly localizable, the discussion of which you can follow in [https://bugzil.la/1161138 Bug 1161138]. More news as we get them. Cheers, Michał
  4. pollti
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    The Pocket articles are localized now. Sorry for the delay again.

    The Pocket articles are localized now. Sorry for the delay again.
  5. vesper
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    pollti said

    The Pocket articles are localized now. Sorry for the delay again.

    Huge thanks, pollti! And if I catch you being sorry for being awesome one more time, I... don't know what, but you don't want that ;-) NEVER be sorry for doing something great, even if you think you're "late", please!

    Thanks again.

    ''pollti [[#post-65381|said]]'' <blockquote> The Pocket articles are localized now. Sorry for the delay again. </blockquote> Huge thanks, pollti! And if I catch you being sorry for being awesome one more time, I... don't know what, but you don't want that ;-) NEVER be sorry for doing something great, even if you think you're "late", please! Thanks again.
  6. vesper
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    Hello, L10ns!

    A new highly relevant (and slightly urgent) article just appeared in the KB - please take a look and localize at will.

    If you have any questions about the content, please use the "Discussion" tab of that article OR send your questions straight to Joni

    Thank you! Michał

    Hello, L10ns! [https://support.mozilla.org/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10 A new highly relevant (and slightly urgent) article just appeared in the KB] - please take a look and localize at will. If you have any questions about the content, please use the "Discussion" tab of that article OR [https://support.mozilla.org/user/jsavage send your questions straight to Joni] Thank you! Michał
  7. John99
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    vesper [[#post-66236|said]

    If you have any questions about the content, please use the "Discussion" tab of that article OR send your questions straight to Joni Thank you! Michał

    I wonder if Joni is around right now ? As joni is not responding in the discussion tab: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10/discuss/6181

    edit - formatting

    ''vesper [[#post-66236|said] <blockquote> If you have any questions about the content, please use the "Discussion" tab of that article OR [https://support.mozilla.org/user/jsavage send your questions straight to Joni] Thank you! Michał </blockquote> I wonder if Joni is around right now ? As joni is not responding in the discussion tab: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10/discuss/6181 edit - formatting

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  8. pollti
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    I translated (localized ;-)) the article now.
    However, I don't have a German Windows 10 yet and https://www.microsoft.com/Language/de-de/Search.aspx doesn't include the terms yet, so some of the UI terms could be wrong. Does anyone have a German Windows 10 already?

    I translated (localized '';-)'') the article now.<br>However, I don't have a German Windows 10 yet and https://www.microsoft.com/Language/de-de/Search.aspx doesn't include the terms yet, so some of the UI terms could be wrong. Does anyone have a German Windows 10 already?
  9. John99
    John99 3665 posts
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    I am not certain the en-US version has been tested with Windows10 yet !

    If you have at least a German any' Windows 10 it is possible joni may find that useful for helping with testing.

    Some background information

    There is a related article

    • Make Firefox your default browser
      https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-firefox-your-default-browser
    • That has unapproved revisions waiting; initially, for someone to test in Windows 10
      https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-firefox-your-default-browser/history
    • There is also a known sumo issue with these articles as mentioned in the discussion of that article
      AliceWyman said

      Regarding showfor and Windows 10:
      The {for =fx34, =fx35, =fx36, =fx37} block needs a {for win10} section so that content can be shown for Windows 10 users who have those versions. same with the {for not fx34} section if we want those older versions to be supported.

      In the last pending revision, the {for win10} {for not fx40} content is under the {for fx38} block of content so it will only show up for fx38 and fx39.

      Also, any {for win} content or images will not be shown when the version selector is set to Windows 10, since this bug is still open (replace {for win} with {for winxp,win7,win8,win10} as a workaround?) :

      *Bug 1186464 - Showfor doesn't consider Windows 10 to be Windows
    • There are also current kb bugs that are hidden from kb editors and kb reviewers.
      That does not help with our understanding of the situation. It appears that we are running out of time and apparently have broken kb articles.
      • Firefox Beta users are likely a more technically advanced group, and probably early adopters, yet we hide an article in an Admin category, and fail to display information to them.

    edit I misread the post, you do not have a German Windows 10

    I am not certain the en-US version has been tested with Windows10 yet ! If you have <s>at least a German</s> '''''any'''' Windows 10 it is possible joni may find that useful for helping with testing. ------- Some background information There is a related article * [[Make Firefox your default browser]] <br /> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-firefox-your-default-browser * That has unapproved revisions waiting; initially, for someone to test in Windows 10 <br /> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-firefox-your-default-browser/history * There is also a '''known sumo issue''' with these articles as mentioned in the discussion of that article <blockquote>''AliceWyman [[#post-12216|said]]'' <br /> <br />'''Regarding showfor and Windows 10:''' <br />The {for =fx34, =fx35, =fx36, =fx37} block needs a {for win10} section so that content can be shown for Windows 10 users who have those versions. same with the {for not fx34} section if we want those older versions to be supported. <br /><br/>In the last pending revision, the {for win10} {for not fx40} content is under the {for fx38} block of content so it will only show up for fx38 and fx39.<br /><br/>Also, any {for win} content or images will not be shown when the version selector is set to Windows 10, since this bug is still open (replace {for win} with {for winxp,win7,win8,win10} as a workaround?) : <br /><br/>*[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186464 Bug 1186464] - Showfor doesn't consider Windows 10 to be Windows</blockquote> * There are also '''current kb bugs that are hidden''' from kb editors and kb reviewers. <br /> That does not help with our understanding of the situation. It appears that we are running out of time and apparently have broken kb articles. ** Firefox Beta users are likely a more technically advanced group, and probably early adopters, yet we hide an article in an Admin category, and fail to display information to them. edit I misread the post, you do not have a German Windows 10

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  10. John99
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    Updates & Revisions

    Hi polti,

    I see you cc yourself on the sumo bug. Current versions of the two documents involved have been crafted to take into account the sumo bug.

    You are probably following this directly in the en-US KB yourself, but I will comment as not all L10N people will be doing that.

    The Windows 10 behavior has now been tested, and is noted in the document discussion threads, although that was not tested with the final release of Windows 10.

    Both the documents have been revised further, and probably will continue to be revised.

    Updates & Revisions Hi polti, I see you cc yourself on the sumo bug. Current versions of the two documents involved have been crafted to take into account the sumo bug. You are probably following this directly in the en-US KB yourself, but I will comment as not all L10N people will be doing that. The Windows 10 behavior has now been tested, and is noted in the document discussion threads, although that was not tested with the final release of Windows 10. Both the documents have been revised further, and probably will continue to be revised. * Main article [[Make Firefox your default browser]] ** Had major approved changes, last night but not yet marked RFL, and has several pending changes this morning. Current en_US is https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-firefox-your-default-browser/revision/100775 * Short article [[How to change your default browser in Windows 10]] ** Again major changes. Current approved en-US version https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10/revision/100782 Again not marked RFL. Changes from localised article are significant even just on the parts you should localise now ** Changes comparison https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10/compare?locale=en-US&to=100782&from=100659 ** '''NOTE you may view revision content. The page is interactive'''. This page has a button [+ View Content] it even has selectors to see views as seen from different Firefox versions or OS types and versions https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10/revision/100782
  11. SwanMr.pound
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    I want to translate your documentation into German/ Ich möchte Ihre Dokumente ins Deutsch übersetzen! Oder ins Russisch! Ich bin aus Russland, Syberia. Danke! Swan.

    I want to translate your documentation into German/ Ich möchte Ihre Dokumente ins Deutsch übersetzen! Oder ins Russisch! Ich bin aus Russland, Syberia. Danke! Swan.
  12. vesper
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    Hey there :-)

    I need you help with something special... Please take a look and let me know if you have any questions.

    Have a nice weekend!

    Hey there :-) [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gzOEkmn6jeZkOIn1M7jVxFBdzvtbX_SL5UztI61KtLs/edit#heading=h.tncttxni2q6v I need you help with something special... Please take a look and let me know if you have any questions.] Have a nice weekend!
  13. Daniel2099
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    Is this the right place to give feedback on UI translation to German (in Firefox itself, not SUMO)?

    Is this the right place to give feedback on UI translation to German (in Firefox itself, not SUMO)?
  14. vesper
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    Daniel2099 powiedział

    Is this the right place to give feedback on UI translation to German (in Firefox itself, not SUMO)?

    Hi Daniel2099 (are you from a comic book? ;-)),

    I would say the best places to talk about UI translation for Firefox in German are mentioned here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Teams:de in the "Team Communication" section ;-)

    Cheers, Michał

    ''Daniel2099 [[#post-69934|powiedział]]'' <blockquote> Is this the right place to give feedback on UI translation to German (in Firefox itself, not SUMO)? </blockquote> Hi Daniel2099 (are you from a comic book? ;-)), I would say the best places to talk about UI translation for Firefox in German are mentioned here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Teams:de in the "Team Communication" section ;-) Cheers, Michał
  15. philipp
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    hi daniel, du kannst dein feedback aber auch gerne hier hinterlassen und wir werden es an die ui-localiser weiterleiten. oder falls es mehr um die korrektur eines speziellen fehlers geht, kannst du das auch über einen bug report melden: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mozilla%20Localizations (Component: de/German)

    hi daniel, du kannst dein feedback aber auch gerne hier hinterlassen und wir werden es an die ui-localiser weiterleiten. oder falls es mehr um die korrektur eines speziellen fehlers geht, kannst du das auch über einen bug report melden: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mozilla%20Localizations (Component: de/German)
  16. Daniel2099
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    vesper wrote

    Hi Daniel2099 (are you from a comic book? ;-)),

    Yup, Green Lantern in disguise ;D


    philipp schrieb

    hi daniel, du kannst dein feedback aber auch gerne hier hinterlassen und wir werden es an die ui-localiser weiterleiten. oder falls es mehr um die korrektur eines speziellen fehlers geht, kannst du das auch über einen bug report melden: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mozilla%20Localizations (Component: de/German)

    Hi Philip, vielen Dank! Es geht um die Übersetzung von "History" als "Chronik". In allen anderen großen Browsern (Chrome, Opera, Edge, Safari) heißt es Verlauf, deswegen finde ich die Übersetzung in Firefox ungewöhlich und etwas verwirrend. Ich weiß nicht, ob Firefox hier gegenüber den anderen Browser sozusagen herausstehen möchte, was ja auch legitim ist, aber ich glaube, dass es für Otto Normalverbraucher allein aus Gewohnheit schwerer zu verstehen ist, wobei m. M. nach "Verlauf" auch vom Wortlaut leichter verständlich ist. Wenn wir dann z. B. von der "Tab-Chronik" sprechen, bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob so jemand wie mein Vater dann überhaupt weiß, worauf man hinaus will ;) Ich denke, das würde es für einige "non-techies" leichter machen, Firefox zu bedienen (gerade wenn ihnen Firefox neu ist). Vielleicht gibt es ja bestimmte Gründe, warum das in Firefox anders heißt (wenn ja, würden die mich ehrlich interessieren), und eure Meinung würde mich generell sehr interessieren :)

    ''vesper [[#post-69935|wrote]]'' <blockquote> Hi Daniel2099 (are you from a comic book? ;-)), </blockquote> Yup, Green Lantern in disguise ;D ''philipp [[#post-69936|schrieb]]'' <blockquote> hi daniel, du kannst dein feedback aber auch gerne hier hinterlassen und wir werden es an die ui-localiser weiterleiten. oder falls es mehr um die korrektur eines speziellen fehlers geht, kannst du das auch über einen bug report melden: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mozilla%20Localizations (Component: de/German) </blockquote> Hi Philip, vielen Dank! Es geht um die Übersetzung von "History" als "Chronik". In allen anderen großen Browsern (Chrome, Opera, Edge, Safari) heißt es Verlauf, deswegen finde ich die Übersetzung in Firefox ungewöhlich und etwas verwirrend. Ich weiß nicht, ob Firefox hier gegenüber den anderen Browser sozusagen herausstehen möchte, was ja auch legitim ist, aber ich glaube, dass es für Otto Normalverbraucher allein aus Gewohnheit schwerer zu verstehen ist, wobei m. M. nach "Verlauf" auch vom Wortlaut leichter verständlich ist. Wenn wir dann z. B. von der "Tab-Chronik" sprechen, bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob so jemand wie mein Vater dann überhaupt weiß, worauf man hinaus will ;) Ich denke, das würde es für einige "non-techies" leichter machen, Firefox zu bedienen (gerade wenn ihnen Firefox neu ist). Vielleicht gibt es ja bestimmte Gründe, warum das in Firefox anders heißt (wenn ja, würden die mich ehrlich interessieren), und eure Meinung würde mich generell sehr interessieren :)
  17. philipp
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    das hier verrät vllt ein bisschen zu den historischen hintergründen zu history/chronik/verlauf: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229255

    das hier verrät vllt ein bisschen zu den historischen hintergründen zu history/chronik/verlauf: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229255

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  18. Daniel2099
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    Wobei man argumentieren könnte, dass (da die Diskussion mittlerweile 12 Jahre her ist) sich der Browsermarkt einigermaßen geändert hat, wie auch die Erwartungshaltung des Endusers. Die Argumente, die dort genant werden, sind IMHO nicht mehr wirklich gültig, zumal Sie sich auf das Beibehalten des englischen "History" anstatt "Verlauf" beziehen.

    Wobei man argumentieren könnte, dass (da die Diskussion mittlerweile 12 Jahre her ist) sich der Browsermarkt einigermaßen geändert hat, wie auch die Erwartungshaltung des Endusers. Die Argumente, die dort genant werden, sind IMHO nicht mehr wirklich gültig, zumal Sie sich auf das Beibehalten des englischen "History" anstatt "Verlauf" beziehen.
  19. philipp
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    ich persönlich habe dazu eigentlich keine präferenz in die ein oder andere richtung wie das ding denn am besten heißen sollte. nur die tatsache, dass es schon seit über einem jahrzehnt "chronik" benannt ist und es sich dabei um ein bedeutendes und oft dokumentiertes feature des browsers handelt würde mich eher dazu verleiten beim status quo zu bleiben...

    ich persönlich habe dazu eigentlich keine präferenz in die ein oder andere richtung wie das ding denn am besten heißen sollte. nur die tatsache, dass es schon seit über einem jahrzehnt "chronik" benannt ist und es sich dabei um ein bedeutendes und oft dokumentiertes feature des browsers handelt würde mich eher dazu verleiten beim status quo zu bleiben...
  20. vesper
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    Hello, German l10ns!

    We need your help with this recent article that's only for German users: https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/cliqz-recommendations-firefox/translate

    Let me know if you have questions or need additional help with this.

    Thank you so much for being there for the German users!

    Hello, German l10ns! We need your help with this recent article that's only for German users: https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/cliqz-recommendations-firefox/translate Let me know if you have questions or need additional help with this. Thank you so much for being there for the German users!
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