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settings for a simple experience with gmail and thunderbird

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I am in my 70s and have been through a lot in the last 3 years (flooded home, my husband, dog and chihuahua living in a tiny room for a year and a half, suffering a $50,000 loss to a shifty contractor, two cancer scares, etc.), and the latest challenge--the pandemic--has fried what used to be my pretty good brain cells. Now,I find that in order to continue using technology, I must have step-by-step directions, preferably with pictures, or I simply cannot function in the tech world. I am not quite ready to give up, so I was wondering if some kind soul(s) out there that still have working brain cells would be willing to help me? My dad kept his computer skills going until he passed away at 92, and I am hoping to be that fortunate, but it is not looking good. Everything is so interwoven now days, it drives me to distraction.

I have managed to set up a gmail account, then installed Thunderbird on my desktop, but I am at a loss understanding what configuration to use to get the easy-to-use performance I want. Some notes:

1. When I get an email, I do not need to archive it anywhere (not sure what that means anyway). I open the mail, read it and then save it to the appropriate folder on my hard drive, then delete the copy in my Thunderbird (and, hopefully, it deletes in gmail). I don't know what ALL MAIL is or why I need it? What should my settings be to accomodate my system? Once I have saved an email to my hard drive or deleted it, I want it gone, period, from gmail and Thunderbird. I usually only have email from the current or previous day, that's it. I keep a clean inbox and have a highly structured set of folders to save any emails I want throughout my hard drive in the logical folders for them.

2. I like sent mail copIes in a SENT mail folder until I delete them because sometimes I check back to see what I sent.

3. I want the contacts set up in gmail synced to Thunderbird and stay current with any changes in either email client.

4.The DRAFTS folder is important so that, if I am interrupted, I can come back and finish mail later.

5. I do not want LABELS, IMPORTANT, STARS or any other folder to complicate things. I just want INBOX, DRAFTS, SENT, SPAM, AND TRASH...and when I put it in TRASH, I want it gone when I close Thunderbird.

6. In summary, I just want the basics so that I can continue to use technology no matter what challenges are going on in my life.... for another decade, if possible.

I am using a Lenovo Legion laptop, Windows 10 64bits, Chrome (sorry, Firefox, but I am too old to switch now), and Thunderbird whatever the latest version is. I truly love Thunderbird, but I cannot figure out what settings to use to accomplish the system above.

This Texas granny would be forever grateful if any brainy people out there could dumb-down some steps for me to accomplish the above... and if you have screenshots, I will sing your praises from now until eternity!

Donna in Texas

I am in my 70s and have been through a lot in the last 3 years (flooded home, my husband, dog and chihuahua living in a tiny room for a year and a half, suffering a $50,000 loss to a shifty contractor, two cancer scares, etc.), and the latest challenge--the pandemic--has fried what used to be my pretty good brain cells. Now,I find that in order to continue using technology, I must have step-by-step directions, preferably with pictures, or I simply cannot function in the tech world. I am not quite ready to give up, so I was wondering if some kind soul(s) out there that still have working brain cells would be willing to help me? My dad kept his computer skills going until he passed away at 92, and I am hoping to be that fortunate, but it is not looking good. Everything is so interwoven now days, it drives me to distraction. I have managed to set up a gmail account, then installed Thunderbird on my desktop, but I am at a loss understanding what configuration to use to get the easy-to-use performance I want. Some notes: 1. When I get an email, I do not need to archive it anywhere (not sure what that means anyway). I open the mail, read it and then save it to the appropriate folder on my hard drive, then delete the copy in my Thunderbird (and, hopefully, it deletes in gmail). I don't know what ALL MAIL is or why I need it? What should my settings be to accomodate my system? Once I have saved an email to my hard drive or deleted it, I want it gone, period, from gmail and Thunderbird. I usually only have email from the current or previous day, that's it. I keep a clean inbox and have a highly structured set of folders to save any emails I want throughout my hard drive in the logical folders for them. 2. I like sent mail copIes in a SENT mail folder until I delete them because sometimes I check back to see what I sent. 3. I want the contacts set up in gmail synced to Thunderbird and stay current with any changes in either email client. 4.The DRAFTS folder is important so that, if I am interrupted, I can come back and finish mail later. 5. I do not want LABELS, IMPORTANT, STARS or any other folder to complicate things. I just want INBOX, DRAFTS, SENT, SPAM, AND TRASH...and when I put it in TRASH, I want it gone when I close Thunderbird. 6. In summary, I just want the basics so that I can continue to use technology no matter what challenges are going on in my life.... for another decade, if possible. I am using a Lenovo Legion laptop, Windows 10 64bits, Chrome (sorry, Firefox, but I am too old to switch now), and Thunderbird whatever the latest version is. I truly love Thunderbird, but I cannot figure out what settings to use to accomplish the system above. This Texas granny would be forever grateful if any brainy people out there could dumb-down some steps for me to accomplish the above... and if you have screenshots, I will sing your praises from now until eternity! Donna in Texas

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Stans: you have been incredibly helpful, and I cannot tell you how much I appreciated your time and energy! I printed out your most recent email regarding contacts, and will work on it tonight. My email inbox is so much cleaner and enjoyable to use now! I am going to tackle your contact and add-on help next, and I fully expect it to be just as helpful as you were on my inbox.

THANK YOU from Donna in Texas

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Stans: you have been incredibly helpful, and I cannot tell you how much I appreciated your time and energy! I printed out your most recent email regarding contacts, and will work on it tonight. My email inbox is so much cleaner and enjoyable to use now! I am going to tackle your contact and add-on help next, and I fully expect it to be just as helpful as you were on my inbox.

THANK YOU from Donna in Texas

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You're welcome.

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Stans said

2. Advanced Server Settings for Gmail
  • In the Folder Pane, right-click the Gmail account and select Settings. A new tab called Account Settings will open. This is how you quickly open Account Settings. Take note for future instructions.
  • In the left pane of the Account Settings tab, select the Server Settings section.
  • In the main pane, just above the Message Storage heading, click the Advanced button to open the Advanced Account Settings dialog.
  • Inside the "IMAP server directory" textbox, type [Gmail] then click OK to close the dialog.
  • Quit and relaunch Thunderbird. You should now have a clean, simple list of folders under your Gmail account in the Folder Pane.

It worked! Thank you for such detailed explanation. I wonder why TB does not have short video tutorials on YouTube. It would be much easier for newbies and non techies like me.

Question: Why did Thunderbird start downloading all the emails from the server again? Does this re-organization delete already downloaded emails?

If I follow these steps for a now defunct account, will I lose my emails?

Also, how can we choose to display folders in such simple way by Default upon a fresh installation?

Thank you for your time!

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Sajid said

Question: Why did Thunderbird start downloading all the emails from the server again? Does this re-organization delete already downloaded emails?

Nothing is deleted. The structure of the ImapMail folder changes; which is where Thunderbird stores messages accessed via IMAP, that's why they get downloaded afresh.

If I follow these steps for a now defunct account, will I lose my emails?

Explain "defunct". In my book, that means a Gmail account that has since been deleted permanently and is no longer reachable on Gmail servers.

Also, how can we choose to display folders in such simple way by Default upon a fresh installation?

Unfortunately, I don't know if you can preconfigure Tbird to do this by default. Also note that each mail provider operates differently. What works for Gmail won't necessarily work for other providers. Instead of preconfiguring Tbird, assuming you actually find such a solution, I recommend regularly backing up your current Thunderbird profile folder instead, which is portable and very easy to load in a fresh Tbird install.

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