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2 basic operations FireFox does upsidedown\inefficiently...

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FireFox used to do those 2 operation - in the right way; and now the wrong way is its default behavior.

The operations are:

---1) When a web-page loads - first there is chaos with regard to the location of objects and text, including text's size -- then I see how everything rearranges - until there is order. IOW - the page first load with the chaos; so I guess - to correct this behavior -- the setting should be - not to load anything - until it's arranges\in-order.

---2) I want all new tabs to open to the right of the current. I've done many things to create this behavior \ to prevent from new tabs to open at the right end of the row -- and indeed now they end-up next to current -- but initially - they open in the end, and only then - they are moved to the correct location. I literally see that happen; just like with the rearranging of the web-page.

A few things I did: installed "Open Tabs Next to Current"; in "Tab Control" marked "insert related tabs after current"; in about:config - in "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent" - made "true".


These behaviors clearly\visibly and certain; they produce double or more work; and create much more slowness in my work-flow in FireFox; and incredibly annoying! Web-pages used to be ordered from the beginning; and tabs focused directly in the right way; and for instance - in current Pale-Moon, which is based on earlier FireFox version -- those work fine.

So is\are there things I can do? Some add-ons or about:config settings etc?

FireFox version 52 (I won't upgrade; and it's the same in 57 and beyond).

FireFox used to do those 2 operation - in the right way; and now the wrong way is its default behavior. The operations are: ---1) When a web-page loads - first there is chaos with regard to the location of objects and text, including text's size -- then I see how everything rearranges - until there is order. IOW - the page first load with the chaos; so I guess - to correct this behavior -- the setting should be - not to load anything - until it's arranges\in-order. ---2) I want all new tabs to open to the right of the current. I've done many things to create this behavior \ to prevent from new tabs to open at the right end of the row -- and indeed now they end-up next to current -- but initially - they open in the end, and only then - they are moved to the correct location. I literally see that happen; just like with the rearranging of the web-page. A few things I did: installed "Open Tabs Next to Current"; in "Tab Control" marked "insert related tabs after current"; in about:config - in "browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent" - made "true". These behaviors clearly\visibly and certain; they produce double or more work; and create much more slowness in my work-flow in FireFox; and incredibly annoying! Web-pages used to be ordered from the beginning; and tabs focused directly in the right way; and for instance - in current Pale-Moon, which is based on earlier FireFox version -- those work fine. So is\are there things I can do? Some add-ons or about:config settings etc? FireFox version 52 (I won't upgrade; and it's the same in 57 and beyond).

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So you list all these issues then say will not upgrade so no idea if you need help or not or just explaining things.

To submit suggestions for new or changed features, may I suggest: Feedback: https://qsurvey.mozilla.com/s3/FirefoxInput/ or https://discourse.mozilla.org/c/add-ons If you have a bug, file a bug report. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ Bug Writing Guidelines : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines

Please let us know if this solved your issue or if need further assistance.

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Pkshadow - it seems you didn't understand my post at all. I suggest you read it again, if you care about the question.

Any way - I'll try to clarify - according to what you've mentioned.

You used ""upgrading"" - as if it's a solution to the problem. Then you advised me to submit request for new features.


The answer -- these are the new features. Working badly, and worse than before -- seems to be the norm for "upgraded" versions; especially for "the big ones", such as: Google-Search, YouTube, and now - FireFox; which from version 57 - dropped most add-ons -- which were an integral part of the browser, and what made it my browser! ...as an example.


And my question is - is there something to fix it (the new default behavior).

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@MrAccident, this is a End user forum help. If your posting is not clear then your not helping others understand. Telling others to read the posting again is a real fast way to get no HELP. If you want help this is a gave and take help forum-remember that next time. Also if you aren't wanting to go to a newer ESR or FF version then no one can help you here. FF57 isn't at fault for Addons not working they were given time to update to work with FF57 and their failure is not a FF problem. This is a Fact you are leaving out. I didn't like how Addons where killed off but I learned to move on and use Addons that were updating for Security purpose and Browser Stability that is the main reason-not what I want but I choose the later two reason.

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WestEnd - thanks for your input.

I'll clarify again. I have explained the problem in detail. In-fact - being a perfectionist - when ever I make a post - I reread it many times, and improve it many times. And this is the reason I suggested to Pkshadow - to reread my post; because he really misunderstood it. Plus - I also clarified what he did mention.

But I am also aware of the psychological aspect of such forums. I'm suppose to be very grateful and constructive-criticism - will practically always be interpreted and treated - as rudeness and antagonism.

I still follow my principles; such as following the truth principles instead of the false social norms, and specifically that constructive-criticism - is a good thing. But I'll understand if no-one will help me now; as is the usual case.

Also I have no other choice; because - if I'll "keep my mouth shot" when someone misunderstands the problem - it can't lead to my problem being solved. Catch-22. :-) ...Well - c'est la vie.

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It is a attitude problem that is preventing this from being solved. Firefox Volunteer Support need be be treated some what better in the tone of your questions. There are other options : Firefox Based Alternatives https://www.palemoon.org/ https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ https://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php https://www.gnu.org/software/icecat/ www.cometbird.com/ https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en https://vivaldi.com/?lang=en

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An attack on my personality; what a surprise. I would never expect that coming. Only every single time. If only software would be that predictable. ;-)

The truth is that people interpret truth according to social instincts and norms; and that brings all kinds of problems to the world. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Radical%20Honesty

Yeah, I already went through the process of installing Pale Moon, its settings, add-ons, passwords etc etc; and it took a few weeks probably; and some add-ons don't work; so I'll have to stick to FF-52. Thanks.

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If you are on version 52 and not on ver 52.5.3 ESR which is supported then you are running a unsupported and insecure browser and will not get updates to fix issues like : https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3023893/opera-mozilla-vivaldi-and-more-rush-to-patch-spectre-and-meltdown-security-holes

Sorry I do not work on unsupported browsers and there issues.

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I checked - it's "52.5.3 ESR".