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Firefox 71 changed my toolbar arrangement

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My Tabs toolbar used to be under my Links toolbar. It is now above the Address toolbar.

How do I put my Tabs toolbar back where I want it (not where Firefox arbitrarily decided to put it)?

Alternately, How do I go back to FireFox 70.0.1?

System: Windows 8.1, 64-bit

              FireFox 71, 64-bit 

Note: My laptop (Windows 8.1, 64-bit) has Firefox 70.0.1 (but wants me to "update" (sic)). It has the tool bars in my preferred order. I'm not about to "update" until I know how to fix FireFox 71.

My Tabs toolbar used to be under my Links toolbar. It is now above the Address toolbar. How do I put my Tabs toolbar back where I want it (not where Firefox arbitrarily decided to put it)? Alternately, How do I go back to FireFox 70.0.1? System: Windows 8.1, 64-bit FireFox 71, 64-bit Note: My laptop (Windows 8.1, 64-bit) has Firefox 70.0.1 (but wants me to "update" (sic)). It has the tool bars in my preferred order. I'm not about to "update" until I know how to fix FireFox 71.

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Hi AIVAS, this question has been asked several times during the past week. You either can try a small tweak to your existing rules, or starting with a known working set of rules.

Small tweak that fixes a lot of existing rule sets:

/* Firefox 71+ */ 
#TabsToolbar { 
  display: block !important; 
} 

New rule set:

https://www.userchrome.org/what-is-userchrome-css.html#movetabbar

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DJA123 0 solutions 1 answers

Which toolbar? The menu bar or the bookmarks bar?

Which toolbar? The menu bar or the bookmarks bar?
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Hi AIVAS, this question has been asked several times during the past week. You either can try a small tweak to your existing rules, or starting with a known working set of rules.

Small tweak that fixes a lot of existing rule sets:

/* Firefox 71+ */ 
#TabsToolbar { 
  display: block !important; 
} 

New rule set:

https://www.userchrome.org/what-is-userchrome-css.html#movetabbar

Hi AIVAS, this question has been asked several times during the past week. You either can try a small tweak to your existing rules, or starting with a known working set of rules. ''Small tweak that fixes a lot of existing rule sets:'' <pre>/* Firefox 71+ */ #TabsToolbar { display: block !important; } </pre> ''New rule set:'' https://www.userchrome.org/what-is-userchrome-css.html#movetabbar
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Thank you scher2000. Your "Small tweak" appears to have solved the problem.

Thank you scher2000. Your "Small tweak" appears to have solved the problem.
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Idadho 0 solutions 35 answers

How the ...... do I implement this small tweak?

FF needs to stop fixing things that are not broken.

If FF people are so smart, Why can't they make a macro or something that allows me to select Tabs on Bottom and Round Tops and such and say Install?

This is a paid for browser. We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google.

How the ...... do I implement this small tweak? FF needs to stop fixing things that are not broken. If FF people are so smart, Why can't they make a macro or something that allows me to select Tabs on Bottom and Round Tops and such and say Install? This is a paid for browser. We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google.
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Hi Idadho, this is false:

We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google.

If you choose to use Google for your searches, that is between you and Google. Mozilla doesn't collect or sell any of your history.

If you want help with your tabs, start a new thread describing what hacks you are using now so suggestions can fit in, or use a fresh file as I mentioned above.

If you are completely new to userChrome.css files, see my site here:

https://www.userchrome.org/

Hi Idadho, this is false: <blockquote>We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google.</blockquote> If you choose to use Google for your searches, that is between you and Google. Mozilla doesn't collect or sell any of your history. If you want help with your tabs, start a new thread describing what hacks you are using now so suggestions can fit in, or use a fresh file as I mentioned above. If you are completely new to userChrome.css files, see my site here: https://www.userchrome.org/
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Idadho said

This is a paid for browser. We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google.

False. While it is true that Google is one of the search engine defaults depending on locale, it does not mean Mozilla sells information to Google.

https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/ https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/firefox/

''Idadho [[#answer-1272563|said]]'' <blockquote>This is a paid for browser. We pay by allowing Mozilla to sell our search history to Google. </blockquote> False. While it is true that Google is one of the search engine defaults depending on locale, it does not mean Mozilla sells information to Google. https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/ https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/firefox/

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Idadho 0 solutions 35 answers

From what I have read, Google pays Mozilla to set Google as the Default search engine. OK, Mozilla does not directly sell information to Google. They just allow Google to collect that information when people use Google as their default search engine.

Doing the chrome dance every time is a pain. Some of us struggle to create the chrome files and get them in the right folder/directory.

I have too many other people who like tabs on the bottom that I have to go fix. I need to fix 7 computers. That sucks.

I think I will just turn this issue over to my ADA web access attorney and let them deal with Mozilla. FF/Mozilla has other ADA non-compliance issues they need to resolve.Icons without text labels is a big one.

What would be so difficult about making a script/macro/whatever that inserts the chrome.css where is needs to be?

From what I have read, Google pays Mozilla to set Google as the Default search engine. OK, Mozilla does not directly sell information to Google. They just allow Google to collect that information when people use Google as their default search engine. Doing the chrome dance every time is a pain. Some of us struggle to create the chrome files and get them in the right folder/directory. I have too many other people who like tabs on the bottom that I have to go fix. I need to fix 7 computers. That sucks. I think I will just turn this issue over to my ADA web access attorney and let them deal with Mozilla. FF/Mozilla has other ADA non-compliance issues they need to resolve.Icons without text labels is a big one. What would be so difficult about making a script/macro/whatever that inserts the chrome.css where is needs to be?
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Idadho said

... Doing the chrome dance every time is a pain. Some of us struggle to create the chrome files and get them in the right folder/directory. ...

In that case don't enter the dance floor - just say NO!

IOW, learn to live with what Mozilla has provided and don't hack Firefox to get a UI that Mozilla changed back in 2010 with Firefox 4.0 .


Idadho said

... What would be so difficult about making a script/macro/whatever that inserts the chrome.css where is needs to be? ....

All it takes is for someone to come up with 'whatever' and provide it to the world! Mozilla sure as hell won't do it; Tabs on Bottom was completely removed from Firefox with Firefox 29 Australis. Expecting Mozilla to change now is like "beating a dead horse".

''Idadho [[#answer-1272833|said]]'' <blockquote> ... Doing the chrome dance every time is a pain. Some of us struggle to create the chrome files and get them in the right folder/directory. ... </blockquote> In that case don't enter the dance floor - just say NO! IOW, learn to live with what Mozilla has provided and don't hack Firefox to get a UI that Mozilla changed back in 2010 with Firefox 4.0 . ''Idadho [[#answer-1272833|said]]'' <blockquote> ... What would be so difficult about making a script/macro/whatever that inserts the chrome.css where is needs to be? .... </blockquote> All it takes is for someone to come up with 'whatever' and provide it to the world! Mozilla sure as hell won't do it; Tabs on Bottom was completely removed from Firefox with Firefox 29 Australis. Expecting Mozilla to change now is like "beating a dead horse".
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Idadho 0 solutions 35 answers

Then, It is time for the ADA attorney's to get involved. THIS IS AN ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE. Some people have visual issues that make it difficult to relate a tab that is separated by a tool bar and bookmarks bar to the web page. Tabs on top does not make any sense from a visual processing perspective.

Mozilla removed the ICONs with TEXT at the same time. That violated WCAG 2.1.

Tech is supposed to make life easier, not divide the tech savy from the rest of the world.

This is pure stupidity and discrimination.

Then, It is time for the ADA attorney's to get involved. THIS IS AN ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE. Some people have visual issues that make it difficult to relate a tab that is separated by a tool bar and bookmarks bar to the web page. Tabs on top does not make any sense from a visual processing perspective. Mozilla removed the ICONs with TEXT at the same time. That violated WCAG 2.1. Tech is supposed to make life easier, not divide the tech savy from the rest of the world. This is pure stupidity and discrimination.
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