SUMO community discussions

Mozilla has broken the phishing and attack testing links

  1. Surely this is important and should be fixed. I realise this is not really a sumo issue. Mozilla does promote this and display links from http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ at the very least that page should be changed, especially as the old links still currently function.

    the-edmeister has taken the trouble to research some of the related bugs see /questions/914524#answer-301782

    Surely this is important and should be fixed. I realise this is not really a sumo issue. Mozilla does promote this and display links from http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ at the very least that page should be changed, especially as the old links still currently function. ''the-edmeister'' has taken the trouble to research some of the related bugs see [/questions/914524#answer-301782]
  2. To clarify the situation. Firefox versions older than 11 have a db that only considers the .com urls as triggering the warning. Firefox 11 and newer point to the new .org domains. In bug 707652 Gian Carlo mentions to extend this to Firefox 10, and you can track that here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693389

    A whole different issue is that having those pages on mozilla domains is not wanted, probably because security products might consider all mozilla domains as dangerous when we host those pages that trigger a warning. Therefore it was suggested to register a new domain just to host those pages. And as Ed mentions that is tracked here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662213

    All in all, not ideal, but not a big deal as far as I can tell.

    To clarify the situation. Firefox versions older than 11 have a db that only considers the .com urls as triggering the warning. Firefox 11 and newer point to the new .org domains. In bug 707652 Gian Carlo mentions to extend this to Firefox 10, and you can track that here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693389 A whole different issue is that having those pages on mozilla domains is not wanted, probably because security products might consider all mozilla domains as dangerous when we host those pages that trigger a warning. Therefore it was suggested to register a new domain just to host those pages. And as Ed mentions that is tracked here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662213 All in all, not ideal, but not a big deal as far as I can tell.
  3. Thanks for the explanation Kadir,

    What I see as a big deal is that the page http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ does not work. I can go to the page in firefox 3.6 or 9 both supported versions and the tests do not work. Surely the page itself could be changed so that it worked in all supported versions of firefox.

    If I use Aurora Firefox 11 they do work. I asked initially on the sumo questions site as I was not sure who and what was affected by this problem, it could have been something to do with my own setup or versions of firefox, as indeed it is, the problem does not exist on Aurora.

    Thanks for the explanation Kadir, What I see as a big deal is that the page http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ does not work. I can go to the page in firefox 3.6 or 9 both supported versions and the tests do not work. Surely the page itself could be changed so that it worked in all supported versions of firefox. If I use Aurora Firefox 11 they do work. I asked initially on the sumo questions site as I was not sure who and what was affected by this problem, it could have been something to do with my own setup or versions of firefox, as indeed it is, the problem does not exist on Aurora.
  4. Yeah, it's not ideal, however this will be backported to Firefox 10 and that is due next week, from that point on Firefox 9 won't be supported anymore. As for Firefox 3.6: Since Firefox 10 will be the new Extended Support Release, Firefox 3.6 support will be dropped in April. So, for the next three month, there will indeed be a supported Firefox release where these pages will not work as expected. Feel free to file a bug to get the proposed db change into Firefox 3.6, but I doubt the maintainers will see this as major enough to include it.

    Yeah, it's not ideal, however this will be backported to Firefox 10 and that is due next week, from that point on Firefox 9 won't be supported anymore. As for Firefox 3.6: Since Firefox 10 will be the new Extended Support Release, Firefox 3.6 support will be dropped in April. So, for the next three month, there will indeed be a supported Firefox release where these pages will not work as expected. Feel free to file a bug to get the proposed db change into Firefox 3.6, but I doubt the maintainers will see this as major enough to include it.
  5. As you say probably a bug would not be actioned, but what about just changing the page itself simply to include both sets of links with an explanation of which to use. That is a simple solution that does not need developer time and gets the users documentation fixed with a workable demo.

    As you say probably a bug would not be actioned, but what about just changing the page itself simply to include both sets of links with an explanation of which to use. That is a simple solution that does not need developer time and gets the users documentation fixed with a workable demo.
  6. John, the only link from SUMO to those pages, that I could see, was from an archived article. Do you have other articles that would need updating?

    John, the only link from SUMO to those pages, that I could see, was from an archived article. Do you have other articles that would need updating?
  7. Page to alter http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/phishing-protection/.
    If the links within this to demonstrate phising and attack protection only work at present in Firefox 11 then at least temporarily, alter that page to add the links to the .com demo pages that we still have that do work. Currently the page has

    You can test to see if Phishing Protection is active by trying to visit our phishing test site. Likewise, you can try to visit our malware test site to confirm that Firefox is blocking Attack Sites as well. With Phishing and Malware Protection turned on, both sites should be blocked from loading.
    With anchors for .org links
    http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/its-a-trap.html
    http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/its-a-trap.html

    Obsolete Linking from UI & kb

    1. UI
    2. KB unsuitable links in error loading web sites (some archived articles also mention phishing or the phising page)

    The mozilla.org/firefox pages mention phishing and attack protection but do not seem to contain direct links, so I suppose they were cleaned up recently.


    P.S.

    SUMO does not have the equivalent of coding style quotes, 
    a feature present on many other boards.
    it does have this - undocumented ? feature
    It is something I know has been mentioned before. Is it worth starting a discussion/bug about introducing that as an enhancement to sumo. Besides actual code it also would allow quoting retaining original formatting, which would probably be its most frequent use.

    .

    P.P.S has markup within this forum changed, I can get list with indented bullet but not list with indented numbers to work

    # one first list item works
    #* one with sub bullet works
    # two 2nd list item works
    ## two with sub number FAILS to indent, only resets count

    trying the above, formatted without the break tags

    1. one first list item works
      • one with sub bullet works
    2. two 2nd list item works
      1. two with sub number FAILS to indent, only resets count
    '''<u>Page to alter [http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/phishing-protection/]. </u>'''<br/> If the links within this to demonstrate phising and attack protection only work at present in Firefox 11 then at least temporarily, alter that page to add the links to the .com demo pages that we still have that do work. Currently the page has <blockquote>You can test to see if Phishing Protection is active by trying to visit our phishing test site. Likewise, you can try to visit our malware test site to confirm that Firefox is blocking Attack Sites as well. With Phishing and Malware Protection turned on, both sites should be blocked from loading.</blockquote> With anchors for .org links <blockquote> http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/its-a-trap.html <br/> http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/its-a-trap.html </blockquote> '''<u>Obsolete Linking from UI & kb </u>''' <br/> # UI #*->[[Options window - Security panel]] #* -> [[How the phishing and malware protection in Firefox works]] <br/>this is an archived article as you appear to have noticed, so we should not be linking to it anyway, ordinarily we could link direct to the mozilla article but that is broken #* -> [http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/phishing-protection/] the broken Mozilla document # KB unsuitable links in [[error loading web sites]] (some archived articles also mention phishing or the phising page) The mozilla.org/firefox pages mention phishing and attack protection but do not seem to contain direct links, so I suppose they were cleaned up recently. --------- P.S.<br/> SUMO does not have the equivalent of coding style quotes, <br/>a feature present on many other boards. <br/> it does have this - undocumented ? feature <br/>It is something I know has been mentioned before. Is it worth starting a discussion/bug about introducing that as an enhancement to sumo. Besides actual code it also would allow quoting retaining original formatting, which would probably be its most frequent use. -------. '''P.P.S has markup within this forum changed,''' I can get list with indented bullet but not list with indented numbers to work # one first list item works<br>#* one with sub bullet works<br># two 2nd list item works<br>## two with sub number FAILS to indent, only resets count trying the above, formatted without the break tags # one first list item works #* one with sub bullet works # two 2nd list item works ## two with sub number FAILS to indent, only resets count
  8. CORRECTION problem with numbered listing is only with preview. it works and displays ok once posted

    1. one first list item works
      • one with sub bullet works
    2. two 2nd list item works
      1. two with sub number FAILS to indent, WHILST IN PREVIEW only resets count
    '''CORRECTION''' '''problem with numbered listing is only with preview. ''' it works and displays ok once posted # one first list item works #* one with sub bullet works # two 2nd list item works ## two with sub number FAILS to indent, '''WHILST IN PREVIEW''' only resets count