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I upgraded to TB 102.0 today. After I checked my settings and updated my plugins, it seemed to be working fine. However, later in the day I noticed a message that TB was downloading about 880 messages in my main inbox. Of course, there are not nearly that many new messages. I searched and did not notice any new emails in the listing. However, I found that two recent messages had been corrupted in some way. I enclosed an image. When I open the message, there is not even the normal header with the different choices. There is just what appears to be a bunch of information that has been mushed together in place of this email. I found two emails like that. I right clicked on the two, and deleted the corrupted messages. Then I compacted files. For a moment, things seemed OK. Some other emails near those that would not display worked again. However, shortly after I did another compact folders, I got the same message -- downloading the same 880 emails. Now I have two new messages corrupted.

Please help! I have no idea how to stop this corruption. This account is hosted on Google Workspace. I have it set to sync only the last 90 days of messages.

I have no usable Menu options at the top of the Thunderbird email screen. I hit a wrong key yesterday and things such as Write, Reply, Print, Send, Delete, Junk, etc. have disappeared. I read some possible things to help but I do not have III on the upper right of my screen and pressing Alt when opening Thunderbird also does not work. HELP!

Hi,

I am a longtime Thunderbird user. I have 3 email accounts that I check via Thunderbird. I am having issues on just one of those accounts since the 115 Supernova update. I see the message "checking inbox for new messages" but they are not downloading. I have ATT email through Yahoo, and I can log into Yahoo Mail (webmail) and see the messages there ... they suddenly are just not downloading to Thunderbird.

I have tried:

compacting folders Thunderbird safe mode Windows safe mode with networking turning my antivirus off temporarily moving all emails in that account Inbox to a backup folder

I'm frustrated and need to download mail - can you please help me?! Thanks!

I've been running Tbird on Windows for many years. About 2 weeks ago something changed, either in Tbird or at Microsoft, which stops me from sending to the Office 365 SMTP server. I can send and receive using Outlook on the Office website, but I can't send locally from Tbird. Error message screenshot herewith. I have tried every possible permutation of server settings, which currently are:

Server name: smtp.office365.com Port: 587 Security: START/TLS Authentication: OAuth2

MS support says these are correct, and they are at wits' end to understand what is going on. They asked me to ask Tbird support, so I am.

I should add that at about the same time I started getting SMTP rejections in Gmail on my Android phone, and miraculously that was corrected yesterday, without any action from me. There is something odd going on at Microsoft - does anyone know what it is? My other accounts on Tbird work fine of course.

I got an email from Microsoft saying my Live.com or Outlook.com email accounts won't be supported in Thunderbird UNLESS I change the settings to OAuth2 in incoming and outgoing server settings.

I even REMOVED the email account and re-added it making sure it was OAuth2.

But for my live.com & outlook.com email accounts I continually get prompts for passwords from Thunderbird. Sometimes I can't even click the RED X at the upper right to shut the prompt down. I just happens over and over until I give it what it wants.

I am tempted to shut down all Microsoft email accounts and switch to Gmail.

I have Thunderbird version 115.12.2 (64-bit) I used Windows 11 23H2 build 22631.3810 Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1020.0

Any idea how to stop these prompts?

I like Thunderbird much more than any other email program I have ever used, and would like to keep it

Hi, I have just changed my hosting company. I reconfigured my server settings and now I have TWO mailboxes: ray@raysloan.com (this is the one I want!) and another ray@nilgaut.o2switch.net All mails are going into the latter and this is NOT the one I want. If I look at 'settings' for raysloan.com at the top it says 'The following is a special account. There are no identities associated with it - account name ray@raysloan.com' !?

Please see the screen shots attached.

I am terrified of trying anything for fear of losing important mails. The last time something similar happened I lost all of my client information ! How can I get my primary mailbox back as my default mailbox and get rid of the ray@nilgaut.o2switch.net without losing mails ?

Thanks very much for any help.

Tonight I accidentally mistyped my password upon starting Thunderbird, so I chose "enter new password" and retyped it correctly. But now it won't download my mail, and I can't find any way to try entering the password again. (My password is not saved.) When I click "Get messages" the blue progress bar flickers at the bottom of the screen briefly but the Activity Manager remains blank. No mail is downloaded and there are no progress messages. There is also a small "null" note at bottom left, not sure whether that's related.

I have tried restarting Thunderbird several times, and restarting my computer entirely. No difference. I went into Settings / Privacy and Security and confirmed that there is no password saved. None of the settings have been changed. But I'm not getting an error message when I try to download mail, it's not doing anything at all (aside from the brief flicker of the progress bar).

I tried sending a test message and got the error "Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent because connecting to Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.theworld.com failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again." But none of my settings have changed. I can access my mail via web server so there isn't a problem with the ISP. But answering mail that way is really clumsy and time-consuming. I need my Thunderbird!

I am using Thunderbird 102.12.0 with Windows 10 Pro. I have been a happy Thunderbird user for many years (since 2015 I think) and have never encountered this problem before. I really hope you can tell me how to solve it, I am aware of several time-sensitive messages in my mailbox and I can't download anything. Thanks very much for your time!

Hi, In TB 102 the menu toolbar was still above the button toolbar, if I am not mistaken. In TB 115 this seems to have changed... I could not find a way to customize it back as it was. Pointers anyone ? Thank you.

Last night I created a new profile in an attempt to fix a problem with downloading mail. (It turned out to be on the ISP's end.) Tonight I briefly opened two copies of Thunderbird, one with the old/original profile and one with the new profile, to make sure the download would work. I was able to download my new mail to the original profile, so I moved last night's mail from the new inbox to my original inbox in the new profile, and then deleted the new profile since I don't need it. But now the past six months' worth of mail is missing from both my inbox and my sent folder! They both jump from June 13 to yesterday. I noticed it when I had the two copies open next to each other (those messages were missing in both copies), but thought maybe it was a merge problem and hoped they would be restored when I deleted the second profile. But they weren't. I absolutely did not delete all those messages and many of them are really important. Where did they go and how can I get them back? Help!!!

p.s. Sadly I haven't backed up in a while... :-(

TB working fine, then next day opens up as Blank screen and a setup tab Profile shows to be still there as do mail folders .... so need to recreate profile.

Created a new Profile I copied over the folders:

 IMAPmail
 Mail

and the following files

 key3.db
 logins.json
 cert8.db

and all of the pref.js files (1 through to 141)

The profile folder does show new profile active ( as per this pic https://flic.kr/p/2pjRyRz)

I created the 2 IMAP account login details, I now have access to the inbox for 2 IMAP account, but I do not have any the filed mail (local folders) how do I get these back. This is an important item for me as many years of filed emails.

I back up my TB profile every few months. I just went thru the Cox-Yahoo email conversion and I am getting emails. When I did my back up, I noticed in the properties it had one more folder and the files went from 1311 to 2585 files. Is something wrong? Do I need to compare and research what is causing this or just move on!

Is Mozilla working on the below email I have received from Microsoft? "The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th.

What do you need to do?

If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods.

Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.

How can you set up your Gmail, Apple Mail, or other third-party mail application?

Various non-Microsoft applications will have their own steps for connecting to your Outlook.com email account using modern authentication methods. See our help article - Modern Authentication Methods now needed to continue syncing Outlook Email in non-Microsoft email apps. However, you may need to contact the creators of those applications to provide you with instructions. In many cases, simply removing and re-adding your account with the latest version of that application will configure it to use modern authentication methods.

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Since update to ver 128.1.0esr the "new subfolder" feature does not work (does not show window to name new folder). I have many subfolders and I rely on them heavily. I tried restarting Thunderbird, then Windows. I ran in debug mode with no success. I downloaded and installed 128.2.0esr again. No change.

Is it possible to go back to the earlier version? Which is? Thanks, Frederick

I was using thunderbird. I accidentally hit the sort by star right above the email list. The application crashed closed. When I reopen it, it immediately crash closes. I can't even get an pointer arrow for long enough to exit myself.

On window 10. Thunderbird was up to date.

Tried - restarting computer. Signing out of TB in the crash report box. Can't get into safe mode.

How do I correct my serious error (when tired) in allowing a Thunderbird 'Upgrade' 115.2.2 (32 Bit) Supernova to install on my Laptop (Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit). I failed to read the Release Notes by trusting Mozilla wouldn't issue such a drastic change without Warnings as it was not just an 'Upgrade'! It has screwed up my Set up, Folders etc., completely changed layout, can't find 'Write Message' tab etc. etc . etc.

The previous Thunderbird Version had many problems further introduced by 'Upgrades' but was at least still had continuity with earlier Versions with a functional MMI (man machine interface) instead of all the changes introduced with the 115.2.2, which in my opinion should be withdrawn completely. N.B My experience in Systems Control, as an Air Traffic Control Engineer, we would throw this out as not fit for purpose.

Help Please and explain how can I revert back to an Earlier Version?

This is my first post. But I have been reading and benefiting from all the expertise I have found here for many years! Thanks to all!

Trying to plan ahead for the Gmail OAUTH2 change, I upgraded to Tbird 91.9.0.

My Account Settings all transferred to the new version. I do have multi Gmail accounts, as well as other email accounts, but from other posts here, this should matter.

While I am a long term Tbird user, I am a newbie with OAUTH2. I can't seem to connect. So I am writing here for help!

My setup: - Dell notebook running W10 - internet connection strong - am using a Netgear Nighthawk Hotspot Router, which works great with

    everything else, so I really doubt that is an issue

- testing without a firewall; running McAfee - resetting Tbird account back to "Normal Password", then Gmail connects

Incoming Server set to IMAP: imap.gmail.com:993 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2 Outgoing: smtp.gmail.com:465 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2

I have been consistently testing with the same gmail account: - YES, I know my password; it works with both the Gmail web interface,

   or after going back to "Normal Password" instead of OAUTH2

- allow any Alert emails via Gmail Web Interface, repeatedly. - Ran Captcha ... many times! In case someone else reading here needs this, it is here: https://accounts.google.com/b/0/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and you must be logged into the Gmail Web Interface when running this. I have learned to take a pause after running this, for it do its thing.

If Toad-Hall is reading this, I found your list of steps here very helpful: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375558 Worth repeating for others who are struggling, like me.

As recommended here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373706 Cookies: all cleared Remembered Passwords: all cleared

Also looked at this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375702 Originally, my cookies WERE blocked. I did need to change my Web Content as recommended in this post:

   Selected: Remember web sites and links I've visited
   Selected: Accept cookies from sites
   Accept third-party cookies: Always
   Keep until : they expire
   Not selected: 'Send web sites 'Do not track'..... 

Also: In Privacy and Security -> Web content -> Exceptions, added: https://accounts.google.com set to 'Allow' and Saved Changes. Then exit Tbird, took a short pause, started Tbird again, per the advice to properly update the files.

Should I be doing BOTH of these? This post shows options: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/automatic-conversion-google-mail-accounts-oauth20 So if I Select to accept cookies, should I also set the Exception??? I have tested various combinations of these settings, but not seeing a cookie.

In Tbird, when testing to connect, I see:

"Sign in with your Google Account" Enter my account password (I see an error msg here when I typo the password, no error when entered correctly) Also, have checked "Stay Signed In" while trying to Authorize, as recommended. then click Allow on the second screen.

After a few seconds, keep seeing popup in lower right corner of screen: "Authentication failure while connecting to server imap.gmail.com" Sometimes, this msg does not popup, which seems odd to me, but it still fails: Cookies: still empty Password: still empty

I keep updating and reading and updating the setups and testing again, but no cookies for me!

I admit I have gotten off track, testing and reading posts:

Thought my problem might involve Certificates for a while, but now do not think OAUTH2 is using Certificates. Right?

Thought for a bit it might be Javascript disabled, but I am NOT seeing the popup window that shows this error, from this post: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373379 refers to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1286410 Did find my way to Config editor: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1349136 Followed this advice: "Click the 3-bar menu icon, Preferences, and find Config. editor at the bottom of the General section. Or, type editor in the search box at the top of Preferences." Then searched for "Javascript" and found most of settings were true, like javascript.enabled is "true". Should everything that a search for javascript finds be set to true? Since I do not see the error msg, I believe this is not my problem.

Stans posted another helpful summary here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375538 "After you've changed your accounts to OAuth2, delete all records of your Google Account passwords from Thunderbird's password vault (Saved Passwords). With OAuth2, your passwords are not stored by Tbird. Instead, an OAuth2 token (a long string of meaningless characters) is stored in the password field. That's what you should see after completing the OAuth2 process for each of your accounts. You have to do it twice, once for incoming and once for outgoing server. Also, you must allow cookies in Thunderbird's Preferences, otherwise it won't work."

If I am following this correctly, after testing to try and authenticate, I should see a Cookie and a Saved Password being created but they are not.

Think this is my problem!

In Gmail web interface, I am not sure of some settings:

In Manage Your Google Account -> Security:

1. Should Sign-in 2-step verification be on/off? (its off) 2. Third Party apps w access shows Tbird (think this is new, don't recall it before) 3. Allow Less Secure App: turn off (was On for normal pswd; either way fails w OAUTH2) (think I have tested all combinations of the above, with no success) I welcome suggestions on how I should set these to connect with OAUTH2.

I feel like I am getting close here, but I am stuck. Is there anything else, maybe something I have not heard about, like Captcha, that I should try?

Have I missed a setting somewhere? Suggestions???

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