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Every time I run Thunderbird, it appears to lose its IMAP connection(s) after 10-15 minutes. I've tried varying the number of cached connections from 1 to 10 with no difference in behavior.

Restarting Thunderbird will restore connectivity temporarily, until the entire process starts over again.

It seems to be correlated to saving a copy of sent messages. The sending process times out while the message is being saved to the Sent folder after the SMTP sending is complete.

Once this happens, new mail doesn't appear, moving mail between folders has no effect, and some (but not all) messages can't be retrieved from the server.

This has been a problem for me for a very long time, and I'm tired of having to use chrome every time there's an update to firefox.

The issue I have is that I will get the notification saying there's an update. I click the button to update now, the browser opens the auto download page and I get a not secure connection warning. The only work around I've found is to use chrome, and sometimes I can use the "other downloads".

I'm not running a VPN, or any other networking software on my pc. This is for the full program, not the windows store app.

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to download.mozilla.org. The server uses key pinning (HPKP) but no trusted certificate chain could be constructed that matches the pinset. Key pinning violations cannot be overridden.

Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_KEY_PINNING_FAILURE

   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
   Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Syncing between my desktop and my phone has been working just fine for years, just as it had been with my laptop until recently, but I changed the version of Linux I had installed on my laptop earlier today, and despite being able to sign in just fine (as you can see by me posting this with my account), and it syncing correctly on the initial sign in, actively syncing between my laptop and other devices is not functioning (if I make a new bookmark right now, it will not show up on my phone or desktop).

Looking at the sync page in settings it says "Please sign in to reconnect [my email address]", and the account widget on my toolbar has a yellow triangle symbol and a warning saying "account disconnected", but if I click "connect to another device" on the sync menu and then click "not now" I can get to my account page, fully signed in and able to click buttons to change settings (I signed out my old laptop while I was there just fine).

Attempting to re-sign in by any method (clicking "connect to another device" in the sync menu and then choosing "I already have Firefox mobile"; clicking "sign in" in the sync menu; signing out fully, emptying my cookies etc. and then signing in fresh) all leads me into a loop where I insert my password, provide a verification code from my email, provide my 2-factor code, click "I already have Firefox mobile", and then have to sign in again doing the same steps leading to the same place, forever. I will note, however, that signing out entirely and then signing back in does get me from signed out to signed in despite not correcting this error.

In case it would help I attempted to change my password via the account menu, but it says that my definitely correct password (I used the exact same entry from my clipboard successfully to sign in moments ago) is incorrect, and attempting to use the "forgot my password" menu gives me the error "Unexpected error" instead of doing anything, which is not very helpful. My password remains unchanged. I do not know if this is relevant.

After some looking things up I was made aware of a secret menu called "about:sync-log" which I used to see if I could find an error message, and I did indeed find one (I can guarantee that it's new and relevant because this Linux install is only several hours old).

I don't know how much of this error log is safe to share, so I'll only cut in some choice segments I noticed (which turned out to be, like, over a third of it):

1729711964409 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: error.login.reason.no_username => error.login.reason.no_username

[...] <- (I will use this to indicate I've scrolled further down the log; any further edits to the logs will be ##surrounded like so##, for the purpose of visibility)

1729711964819 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: error.login.reason.no_username => error.login.reason.no_username

[...]

1729712030365 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG FxAccountsWebChannel message received: fxaccounts:login 1729712030366 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG Webchannel is logging a user in. 1729712030368 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG setSignedInUser - aborting any existing flows 1729712030368 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG removing account data 1729712030369 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of json user data: null 1729712030425 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of json user data - took: 56 1729712030426 FirefoxAccounts TRACE storage set finished clearing account data 1729712030426 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG account data reset 1729712030426 FirefoxAccounts TRACE StorageManager finalizing 1729712030426 FirefoxAccounts TRACE StorageManager finalized 1729712030427 FirefoxAccounts TRACE initializing new storage manager 1729712030427 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG writing plain storage: ["email","sessionToken","uid","verified"] 1729712030427 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of json user data: ["email","sessionToken","uid","verified"] 1729712030454 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of json user data - took: 27 1729712030455 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG writing secure storage: ["keyFetchToken"] 1729712030455 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of user data to the login manager 1729712030467 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of user data to the login manager 1729712030467 FirefoxAccounts TRACE initializing of new storage manager done 1729712030467 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG Notifying observers of fxaccounts:onlogin 1729712030468 Sync.SyncAuthManager DEBUG observed fxaccounts:onlogin 1729712030468 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Sync is not configured, so ignoring the notification

[...] (skipping further now. Much of what I skipped over was repetitive)

1729712031351 FirefoxAccounts ERROR error GETing /account/keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031351 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031351 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031355 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of json user data - took: 12 1729712031355 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG writing secure storage: ["keyFetchToken"] 1729712031355 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of user data to the login manager 1729712031360 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of user data to the login manager 1729712031363 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712031422 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG FxAccountsWebChannel message received: fxaccounts:loaded 1729712031422 FirefoxAccounts WARN Unrecognized FxAccountsWebChannel command: fxaccounts:loaded 1729712031467 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712031467 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712031467 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -467 1729712031467 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712031467 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712031468 FirefoxAccounts WARN Failed to fetch keys, so unable to determine command keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"}

[...] (this last section appears to be the juiciest bit as it contains far more error message looking stuff then the rest of the log, so I made a point to keep it all together for everyone)

1729712031595 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG _updateAccountData with items: ["device"] 1729712031595 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG writing plain storage: ["email","sessionToken","uid","verified","device","oauthTokens","profileCache"] 1729712031595 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of json user data: ["email","sessionToken","uid","verified","device","oauthTokens","profileCache"] 1729712031596 FirefoxAccounts TRACE Getting command keys: https://identity.mozilla.com/cmd/open-uri 1729712031596 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG Webchannel is enabling sync 1729712031596 FirefoxAccounts INFO Generating and persisting encrypted key (false, true) 1729712031596 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031596 Sync.Service INFO Configuring sync with current FxA user 1729712031599 Sync.SyncAuthManager DEBUG observed weave:connected 1729712031599 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Sync has been connected to a logged in user 1729712031600 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031600 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031600 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO The user became verified 1729712031600 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: error.login.reason.no_username => success.login 1729712031600 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: service.client_not_configured => success.status_ok 1729712031600 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Doing initial sync actions 1729712031601 Sync.AddonsReconciler INFO Registering as Add-on Manager listener. 1729712031601 Sync.AddonsReconciler DEBUG Adding change listener. 1729712031601 Sync.Engine.History.Tracker INFO Adding Places observer. 1729712031603 Sync.Service DEBUG User-Agent: Firefox/131.0.3 (Linux x86_64) FxSync/##blanked out; looked vaguely identifiable## 1729712031604 Sync.Service INFO Starting sync at 2024-10-23 12:33:51 in browser session ##blanked out; looked vaguely identifiable## 1729712031604 Sync.Service DEBUG In sync: should login. 1729712031604 Sync.Service INFO User logged in successfully - verifying login. 1729712031605 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031606 Sync.SyncAuthManager DEBUG unlockAndVerifyAuthState already has (or can fetch) sync keys 1729712031606 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: success.login => success.status_ok 1729712031606 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: success.status_ok => error.login.failed 1729712031606 Sync.Service DEBUG Fetching unlocked auth state returned success.status_ok 1729712031606 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031607 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Getting sync key 1729712031618 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of json user data - took: 23 1729712031618 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG writing secure storage: ["keyFetchToken"] 1729712031618 FirefoxAccounts TRACE starting write of user data to the login manager 1729712031622 FirefoxAccounts TRACE finished write of user data to the login manager 1729712031622 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 1729712031622 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST Length: 84 1729712031659 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 200 1729712031661 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712031701 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 401 1729712031701 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/keys: code: 401 - Status text: 1729712031701 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -701 1729712031701 Hawk DEBUG Received 401 for /account/keys: retrying 1729712031702 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712031751 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 401 1729712031751 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/keys: code: 401 - Status text: 1729712031752 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -752 1729712031752 FirefoxAccounts ERROR error GETing /account/keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031752 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031752 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031752 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031752 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031754 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712031755 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712031795 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712031795 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712031795 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -795 1729712031796 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712031796 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712031796 Sync.SyncAuthManager ERROR Authentication error in _fetchTokenForUser: {"details":{"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"},"source":"hawkclient"} 1729712031796 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: success.status_ok => error.login.reason.account 1729712031796 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: error.login.failed => error.login.failed 1729712031797 FirefoxAccounts TRACE Getting command keys: https://identity.mozilla.com/cmd/open-uri 1729712031797 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Failed to fetch the cluster URL: {"details":{"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"},"source":"hawkclient"} 1729712031797 Sync.SyncAuthManager DEBUG Cluster value = null 1729712031797 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.sync: success.sync => error.sync.reason.no_node_found 1729712031797 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: error.login.failed => error.sync.failed 1729712031797 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031797 Sync.SyncScheduler DEBUG Clearing sync triggers and the global score. 1729712031800 Sync.Status INFO Resetting Status. 1729712031800 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: error.sync.failed => success.status_ok 1729712031800 FirefoxAccounts INFO Generating and persisting encrypted key (false, true) 1729712031801 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712031803 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Getting sync key 1729712031806 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712031806 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712031806 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -806 1729712031806 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712031806 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712031806 FirefoxAccounts WARN Failed to fetch keys, so unable to determine command keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031806 FirefoxAccounts TRACE Getting command keys: https://identity.mozilla.com/cmd/close-uri/v1 1729712031807 FirefoxAccounts INFO Generating and persisting encrypted key (false, true) 1729712031809 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 1729712031809 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST Length: 84 1729712031876 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 200 1729712031877 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/scoped-key-data: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712031877 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -877 1729712031877 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG Fetching keys with token true from https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1 1729712031878 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712031928 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 401 1729712031928 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/keys: code: 401 - Status text: 1729712031928 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -928 1729712031928 Hawk DEBUG Received 401 for /account/keys: retrying 1729712031929 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712031973 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 401 1729712031974 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/keys: code: 401 - Status text: 1729712031974 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -974 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts ERROR error GETing /account/keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts WARN handling invalid token error: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712031974 FirefoxAccounts INFO checking account status... 1729712031976 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712031976 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712031976 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 1729712032010 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712032010 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712032011 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -1010 1729712032011 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712032011 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712032011 FirefoxAccounts WARN Failed to fetch keys, so unable to determine command keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712032011 FirefoxAccounts TRACE Getting command keys: https://identity.mozilla.com/cmd/close-uri/v1 1729712032011 FirefoxAccounts INFO Generating and persisting encrypted key (false, true) 1729712032012 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 1729712032012 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST Length: 84 1729712032029 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712032029 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712032029 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -29 1729712032029 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712032029 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712032029 FirefoxAccounts WARN Failed to fetch keys, so unable to determine command keys: {"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"} 1729712032056 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG POST https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/scoped-key-data 200 1729712032056 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/scoped-key-data: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712032056 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -56 1729712032056 FirefoxAccounts DEBUG Fetching keys with token true from https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1 1729712032058 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712032101 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 401 1729712032101 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /account/keys: code: 401 - Status text: 1729712032101 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -101 1729712032101 Hawk DEBUG Received 401 for /account/keys: retrying 1729712032102 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET request to https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/account/keys 1729712032167 Services.Common.RESTRequest DEBUG GET https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/session/status 200 1729712032167 Hawk DEBUG (Response) /session/status: code: 200 - Status text: 1729712032168 Hawk DEBUG Clock offset vs https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1: -168 1729712032168 FirefoxAccounts INFO account status: ok 1729712032168 FirefoxAccounts WARN invalid token error, but account state appears ok? 1729712032168 Sync.SyncAuthManager ERROR Authentication error in _fetchTokenForUser: {"details":{"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"},"source":"hawkclient"} 1729712032168 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.login: success.login => error.login.reason.account 1729712032168 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: success.status_ok => error.login.failed 1729712032168 FirefoxAccounts TRACE Getting command keys: https://identity.mozilla.com/cmd/open-uri 1729712032168 Sync.SyncAuthManager INFO Failed to fetch the cluster URL: {"details":{"code":401,"errno":110,"error":"Unauthorized","message":"Invalid authentication token: Missing authentication","info":"https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/api#section/Response-format"},"source":"hawkclient"} 1729712032168 Sync.SyncAuthManager DEBUG Cluster value = null 1729712032168 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.sync: success.sync => error.sync.reason.no_node_found 1729712032168 Sync.Status DEBUG Status.service: error.login.failed => error.sync.failed 1729712032169 Sync.Synchronizer INFO No cluster URL found. Cannot sync. 1729712032169 Sync.SyncScheduler DEBUG Next sync in 600000 ms. (why=schedule) 1729712032171 FirefoxAccounts TRACE not checking freshness of profile as it remains recent 1729712032172 FirefoxAccounts INFO Generating and persisting encrypted key (false, true)

[...]

Oh wait, that's the end of the log...

Hopefully this is one of those network errors that just resolve itself the next day and not any kind of serious issue.

Hope everyone at Mozilla is having a good day! (:

Warmly, Nicolete <3

Delete used to not work as TB seemed to be forever 'compacting', now appears resolved.

THREADS, the display tacks a new email onto a recent thread-related or not. I did not ask for this and would like to remove it. Seems that since the People behind TB have now left us to the 'community' We are not impressed.

ALAN x@xx.org.uk [address edited for privacy]

Using windows 7 and have been using TB for well over 20 yrs. but very disappointing recently.

I have received an email from you saying that emails would be sent following my report of a white screen then Crash Report which has been repeating over several days. Please advise when I shall receive the emails to allow me to recover Thunderbird emails. Thank you, M O'Neill

Ever since a few weeks ago, some of my add-ons as well as every new add-on I added after that are unavailable at the start of Firefox. I then have to click into the application menu, click on the warning message for that add-on and enable it again. Since this is quite tedious and frustrating, I tried looking online for any info. I tried updating everything, disabling and enabling manually and removed and re-added some if the add-ons that cause issues.

I am loath to set up a fresh profile or reset all add-ons as that would cost a lot of time to configure everything again. In hopes of a solution that avoids that I am asking here now.

The problem with standard email storage methods is that they don't scale well. Mbox, the default in Thunderbird, creates large files, and if you backup changed files, every backup requires recopying a multi-gigabyte file, because it has changed when even one message was added or deleted. Maildir, the alternative, puts each message in a separate file. But file systems have a lot of overhead and their own limits. When you have hundreds of thousands of messages, especially on a PC, that clutters the computer's file system, and between the file cluster size and directory overhead, it wastes a lot of space and slows down other operations. Two bad options. And let's not be too snarky about what that company from Redmond does in its awful mail system, with a giant proprietary mail database file that sometimes gets corrupted...

It is obviously a lot to ask to create a new mail file format that scales better. It would not be standard and could break some things anyway, though in the long run it might be a good idea. But I have an idea that might work for Thunderbird. As it stands now, it is possible to create archive files by month or year. Then new mail doesn't require those to be re-copied. WHAT IF a "virtual mailbox" could be created that, instead of consisting of one Mbox file or one maildir directory, consisted of a set of Mbox files treated by the UI as one? Quick Filter would filter them all as one, unlike with archives, and you could scroll through them all and sort them and see threads, but they'd be stored as monthly or annual (or whatever) files, the way archives are. Sending and receiving would be unchanged, using the current folders, but periodically the folder could have the oldest ones moved out and still made part of a virtual folder.

There are some modest virtual folder capabilities now, but I don't see how to do this. Does it seem like a possibility with what's there, or a modest enhancement, or is that the kind of thing that would be a huge effort?

Thunderbird version 128.6.0esr There is a gray "tool bar" or whatever you call it under the menu bar. It appears to be a recent message history.

There are dozens or hundreds of recent message icons on this bar - so many that it is totally useless! How do I get rid of it forever?

When I open a message the folders pane/window/whatever disappears. How do I fix it so the folders pane NEVER disappears?

I didn't have all of these problems on older versions of Thunderbird. How do I switch back to one of the older versions that works?

See attached picture.

I asked bout this a couple of weeks ago but didn't get a response. Perhaps I asked under the wrong heading. I'm not the sharpest tack in the box when it comes to these things. Over the holidays I prepared many emails to send afterwards. I created sub-folders in my drafts folder. I sent the emails OK, but then I couldn't delete the folders I created in the drafts folder. Not only that but the folder icons in Drafts turned from yellow to purple and they did that in all four of my email accounts, even though my storage of emails was all in one single account. When I right click on the folders I don't get the option to delete and the folders won't allow being dragged to trash. Also one of the folders suddenly disappeared with all of the prepared email in it. Can you help me correct this condition? Thanks.

For a few days, on all our PCs, when I forward certified emails (PEC) the body of the email is empty! This only works if I forward "as attachment" otherwise the body of the email is empty without any attachment. It only happens with PEC (Certified Email) emails, while with "normal" emails everything is fine. >> In the menu bar Select Tools-Options-Composition-General option is set to Inline.

Has anything changed? Anyone have this problem? I've really tried them all!

thanks

I accidentally Uninstalled my Firefox(don't ask). So I reinstalled it. How do I get the info from my old installation into my new installation? I don't have the sign in info for my old installation as that where it was saved.

I have a question (speculation) about having several Firefox based browsers installed on my Windows 64 PC.

I have a Windows 10, 64 Bit PC with 64 Gigs of RAM. I've always had a habit of installing several versions of Firefox based browsers - all to no avail. However, as of recent, I'm finding that my browsers begin to slow down substantially after 15 minutes or so of browsing - please read on.

Right now, I have the following 64 Bit Firefox based browsers installed on my PC - they are:

Firefox Waterfox Floorp Librewolf

I have quite a large amount of bookmarks saved, and I make sure all browsers have the same bookmarks.

I have a half dozen or so of add-ons, and have tried - from time to time - to uninstall various add-ons to see if they were the cause of the slow downs, but none of that made a difference.

For example, let's say I'm browsing for 15-30 minutes or so, and have a half dozen different tabs brought up. After awhile, things begin to slow down substantially such as delays in clicking on links and having it respond, or right clicking, etc. Browsing speeds slow down substantially also.

Here is what I then usually do:

1. Create a new tab and type in "about:memory" and click on the save memory command.

2. Go into settings and delete cache.

This normally does nothing to speed up things, and I find I have to just close out the browser, wait a few seconds, and bring it back up to things to get back to normal.

This has me speculating - "Could" it be that having a variety of Firefox based browsers with similar data conflict with each other in some strange sort of way" Or is it something else? I know that having a bunch of tabs up can deplete memory usage, but as I mentioned above, I have 64 Gigs of RAM and never had this issue before.

My SSD drive has 500 Gigs of storage, and only half is being used.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be truly appreciated.

Ben Herrmann Fuquay-Varina, NC

Cannot access email.

Went to email provider website and all emails are there.

Reset password and tried to update Thunderbird. No success.

Using POP account. Can get Thunderbird to hold all information. But when it tries to login to server says it cannot. This started 2 days ago. Also email from another different account ( IMAP) is painfully slow. Thunderbird says it is fully updated. Thunderbird often goes into not responding spinning wheel.

server is mail.(server).com pop puts it at 995 port, email carrier (Spectrum) says should be SSL on but choices are only TLS/SSL or STARTTLS what to use, also should password be used.

Hello, Thanks for the answer to my previous question, but I read "Import settings and data into Thunderbird for Android" - "How To Import from Thunderbird Desktop". Unfortunately I can't "Scan the QR code from Thunderbird Desktop", nothing happens when I "Align the QR code provided from Thunderbird Desktop". I wish you a good day.

Alain Le Métayer France

128.6.0esr (64-bit):

Have in the past received occasional e-messages where I needed to go to a file-sharing site to open pix. That is the extent of my understanding of file-sharing, how to file-share my e-message with the .mp4 files attached, etc., etc.

PC here; Windows 10.

So how can I file-share my message with .mp4 attachments?

Thank you. Appreciated.

Hi, my thunderbird within windows 10 crashes without opening!

what to do? 

last crash Report ID : bp-0b76688a-2f9f-465d-a120-c1dff2101105 Thanks in advance for any support Emmanuel BERGASSE

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