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Thunderbird NOT working anylonger under Windows 11 with Gmail?!

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Since we needed to upgrade 2 PCs to Windows 11 (1x Pro & 1x Home) nothing works anymore with Thunderbird. It has MASSIVE and unsolvable problems to connect to our Gmail account via OAuth, Not only will it ask every single time again and over again to allow the connection, but moreover even after granting access it still can NOT send (SMTP) or save or even receive (IMAP) emails. It is maga frustrating and I am currently after days and days spend to unsuccessful fix the problem are at the point to looks for a more reliable alternative (if there is any). Just as background: Our Gmail account is about 14GB big, the local Thunderbird folder around 100GB; so yes it's big, but that's another problem, there are no easy or straightforward off-line archivers any longer to effectively and still easy accessible reduce the local archive.

Since we needed to upgrade 2 PCs to Windows 11 (1x Pro & 1x Home) nothing works anymore with Thunderbird. It has MASSIVE and unsolvable problems to connect to our Gmail account via OAuth, Not only will it ask every single time again and over again to allow the connection, but moreover even after granting access it still can NOT send (SMTP) or save or even receive (IMAP) emails. It is maga frustrating and I am currently after days and days spend to unsuccessful fix the problem are at the point to looks for a more reliable alternative (if there is any). Just as background: Our Gmail account is about 14GB big, the local Thunderbird folder around 100GB; so yes it's big, but that's another problem, there are no easy or straightforward off-line archivers any longer to effectively and still easy accessible reduce the local archive.

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Wow, Problem located, but Unbelievable! A brand-name software in the VPN world, NordVPN, which we unfortunately bought a 2 years subscription from (a big write off!), is the guilty party! Once you start that untested intrusive and resources grabbing software, even without enabling any VPN connection, Thunderbird is messed up! Thunderbird start up, properly with profile manager, takes 4-6 sec to connect w/o NordVPN running Thunderbird takes 5-7 min, and profile manager will not be started, once NordVPN was started and you logged in (but w/o VPN enabled. A half hour chat with NordVPN resulted in zero resolution. but the request to run dozens of test for them. Testing is job of a software company, not the paying customer!

Summary: Do NOT use NordVPN with Thunderbird!

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Wow, Problem located, but Unbelievable! A brand-name software in the VPN world, NordVPN, which we unfortunately bought a 2 years subscription from (a big write off!), is the guilty party! Once you start that untested intrusive and resources grabbing software, even without enabling any VPN connection, Thunderbird is messed up! Thunderbird start up, properly with profile manager, takes 4-6 sec to connect w/o NordVPN running Thunderbird takes 5-7 min, and profile manager will not be started, once NordVPN was started and you logged in (but w/o VPN enabled. A half hour chat with NordVPN resulted in zero resolution. but the request to run dozens of test for them. Testing is job of a software company, not the paying customer!

Summary: Do NOT use NordVPN with Thunderbird!

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