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If I don't use the custom adjustments in my Chrome css, seven buttons on that right side of the menubar are hidden, including the min-max close buttons.

This is problematic when I'm troubleshooting Firefox, and the css is disabled. If I want to close or take the browser out of max mode, I must move those buttons to the navbar, which has no such restriction accommodating those buttons, not to mention why is it necessary for that min-max close trio to monopolize 20% of the menubar. Waste of space. Inefficient.

I'm also curious why must that frame at the top of this sites pages remains persistent, and follows the user down the page, so that when you're composing, and accidentally (and all to often) touch one of those links, it get superimposed over the message, and you must move the cursor to the bottom of the page get rid of it. Not to mention, that frame shrinks the working area of the page about 30% vertically.

I mean, once you have already navigated to the destination page, and you're composing, how often/likely are you going to need to access that area?

If I don't use the custom adjustments in my Chrome css, seven buttons on that right side of the menubar are hidden, including the min-max close buttons. This is problematic when I'm troubleshooting Firefox, and the css is disabled. If I want to close or take the browser out of max mode, I must move those buttons to the navbar, which has no such restriction accommodating those buttons, not to mention why is it necessary for that min-max close trio to monopolize 20% of the menubar. Waste of space. Inefficient. I'm also curious why must that frame at the top of this sites pages remains persistent, and follows the user down the page, so that when you're composing, and accidentally (and all to often) touch one of those links, it get superimposed over the message, and you must move the cursor to the bottom of the page get rid of it. Not to mention, that frame shrinks the working area of the page about 30% vertically. I mean, once you have already navigated to the destination page, and you're composing, how often/likely are you going to need to access that area?
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What 7 buttons are you referring to?

rt click anywhere on the tab bar to access the Customize toolbar page. Lower left you can uncheck Title bar to rid yourself of the top bar. Some users like that title bar - quite a few.

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If understand your complaint: You have added many buttons to the Menu Bar and these are pushing the three (mimic) system buttons too far to the right.

First, unlike the main toolbar, the Menu Bar does not have an overflow menu feature like the main toolbar. I don't know whether one can be added.

Second, as a workaround, you can use Alt+Spacebar to call up the window control menu with the same options as the 3 buttons.

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Firefox 141 changed the three mimic system buttons that normally appear on the right end of the tab bar when tabs are in the title bar, or at the right end of the Menu Bar when the Menu Bar is enabled. Previously, the buttons were drawn with images, and now they are drawn with fonts. Just in case you need to review the CSS to adapt your rules in the future:

140: https://searchfox.org/mozilla-esr140/source/browser/themes/windows/browser.css#83

141: https://searchfox.org/mozilla-release/source/browser/themes/windows/browser.css#90

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jeff-g said

What 7 buttons are you referring to? rt click anywhere on the tab bar to access the Customize toolbar page. Lower left you can uncheck Title bar to rid yourself of the top bar. Some users like that title bar - quite a few.
Did you look at the images I posted? There is no title bar, because it's already disabled.


I'm referring to the menubar. The second image shows the buttons in the first image, those 7 items, that were forced off screen to the right.

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jscher2000 - Support Volunteer said

as a workaround, you can use Alt+Spacebar to call up the window control menu with the same options as the 3 buttons
Good to know.

jscher2000 - Support Volunteer said

unlike the main toolbar, the Menu Bar does not have an overflow menu feature like the main toolbar. I don't know whether one can be added.
Yes. You taught me something that never occurred to me. There is no "Pin to overflow" for the menubar. Why not, I wonder. You can place any button on either toolbar. Also, there is a limit to the number of buttons that can be place on the main bar, that will be visible, but not the menubar.

Just for the sake of conversation, is there a reason why they would allow that to happen. Is there a purpose?

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noel_envode said

jscher2000 - Support Volunteer said

unlike the main toolbar, the Menu Bar does not have an overflow menu feature like the main toolbar. I don't know whether one can be added.
Yes. You taught me something that never occurred to me. There is no "Pin to overflow" for the menubar. Why not, I wonder. You can place any button on either toolbar. Also, there is a limit to the number of buttons that can be place on the main bar, that will be visible, but not the menubar. Just for the sake of conversation, is there a reason why they would allow that to happen. Is there a purpose?

Probably not enough people have expressed interest. The menu bar is off by default on Windows, so I assume most people do not use it, and even fewer people use it as a button bar.

I did see a bug the other day related to this problem, and the result of fixing that might be that your excess buttons are hidden so you can still access the system buttons.

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