
Small GIF in signature marked as attachment when sent via gmail
Hi all,
I've been using Eudora for almost 30 years but from time to time checked Thunderbird too because Eudora was discontinued in 2006. so I have to use the OAUTH proxy running on another computer in local network.
I have now installed Thunderbird 141.0 and configured IMAP accounts for one email account I have since Yahoo! Mail's first days in 1997. and the one I have since gmail's first days in 2004.
Everything seems to be working correctly but there is one thing I can't figure out why it is happening.
I have the same signature containing an 18x18 pixel .gif configured in both Eudora and Thunderbird and they both display correctly on the recipient's side and on gmail's webmail.
The problem is - every such an email sent by Thunderbird is at gmail's webmail recognized as "containing attachment" and is marked with a paperclip icon which is not the case when email is sent with Eudora.
The consequence is - it now looks on the gmail's webmail as every single email that I ever send via Thunderbird has an attachment which prevents noticing the messages that really do have an attachment.
I don't see any way of inserting code tags here on the forum to post the HTML code of the signatures sent by Eudora and by Thunderbird once the email arrives into gmail's Sent folder so I am sending the screenshot.
The upper HTML is how signature looks like in online gmail's Sent mailbox > Show Original when sent by Eudora and below there is how it looks like when sent by Thunderbird.
And here is the pastebin of the same HTML code: https://pastebin.com/4YHnNctC
HTML files attached as a signature to Eudora and Thunderbird: https://pastebin.com/17NuE1SY
I do NOT want to use an image from online URL with moz-do-not-send="true" tag. I want to use the .gif file from my hard disk sent in such a way it wouldn't be (by gmail's webmail) marked as an attachment and in a such way the image used for signature would be part of the message body - exactly what works well when using Eudora.
When the message is downloaded for offline reading the image used in the signature should NOT be "remote content", it should be part of the message.
Novain'i Chupo_cro t@
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If you send a sample email to me at davidthunderbird at gmx dot com I will look at the issue.
Hi,
I've just sent you sample emails from both email clients. Both emails are sent via the same SMTP gmail account and both have the same signature containing two 18x18 px .gif images.
The one sent via Thunderbird is in gmail's webmail marked with a paperclip while the one sent via Eudora isn't, here is the screenshot.
I compared the raw messages in gmail's Sent mailbox but couldn't figure out what is causing the difference.
Please ask if you need any further data or information. I have one more Thunderbird and Eudora in a virtual machine so I can do tests.
Regards
Novain'i Chupo_cro t@
I found your problem: you're using Comic Sans 😄. (just kidding)
This is a Gmail-side behavior, not necessarily a Thunderbird bug. Gmail can be picky and flag any multipart MIME structure with embedded content as “having attachments”, even if it is technically inline. Eudora uses and older MIME structure and Gmail may be giving them a pass for whatever reason.
Question: Are you attaching an HTML file or pasting your HTML into the block in settings?
He he :-) I have that signature since Geocities times when everything "had" to be excessively decorated :-)) That signature was quite an improvement over ASCII art signatures we were using at university on VAX running Unix. The .gif file was once part of Yahoo! mail's emoticons. Those GIFs are still online but can be accessed only over http.
BTW, I've just searched for "geocities" on Google and all the results have been displayed in Comic Sans :-))
So the difference is in email clients handling MIME. Do you think there is some workaround to prevent all sent emails being marked as "having attachments" in gmail's web interface when I am using Thunderbird? Except using a signature without .gif files, of course :-)
I am attaching an HTML file which I created as descibed in this article about Thunderbird signatures. Do you think pasting the same HTML instead of attaching the file could make a difference?
I have just tried pasting the HTML, checking "Use HTML" and unchecking "Attach the signature from a file" and the result was exactly the same - the mail was marked with the paperclip as before.
I tried adding:
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>
at the beginning of the Thunderbird's signature but the result was:
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <x-sigsep> <p> {HTML of the signature} </p> </x-sigsep></div>
and not:
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> {HTML of the signature}
as when sending with Eudora.
Seems as Thunderbird parses the HTML for the signature and generates a new HTML code based on the original HTML from the signature.
Chupo sent sample email to me and I could detect no problem. see attached. Also, there was no indication of being an attachment.
david said
Chupo sent sample email to me and I could detect no problem. see attached. Also, there was no indication of being an attachment.
Yes, but as I said:
This email message is going to be marked with a paperclip icon in gmail's webmail accessed via browser. It will be marked with paperclip in both Sent mailbox and in the inbox at the recipient's side. It will not be marked with paperclip in Thunderbird which is correct.
Here I attached the screenshot showing the same signature posted with Eudora is not marked with a paperclip in the gmail's webmail - while it is marked with a paperclip in the gmail's webmail when sent by Thunderbird.
So the problem is: "If someone is sending an email using Thunderbird with a signature containing an image via gmail, then every single email they send will on gmail's webmail be marked with a paperclip.".
Novain'i Chupo_cro t@