Why doesn't Thunderbird clear the "newly downloaded" bit when archiving a message?

tl;dr: I'd like to argue that a user who executes the archive action has seen the email in question, and that executing this action means that the email is no longer "new… (funda kabanzi)

tl;dr: I'd like to argue that a user who executes the archive action has seen the email in question, and that executing this action means that the email is no longer "newly downloaded" and doesn't deserve the highest of visual markings anymore.

We're not talking about the read/unread bit here (the green dot and the grey numbers in the folder pane). We're talking about the "newly downloaded" aka. "new and unseen" bit (the yellow star/rhombus and the blue numbers in the folder pane).

When a new email arrives, it's marked as "newly downloaded" and the inbox lights up blue because of it. Fair enough. It's also unread, of course. I often archive emails right away without opening/reading them. But I have seen the subject line of course, and I have a pretty good idea of what the email is and why I don't read it. I have the message pane disabled, so I can easily select an email without it being displayed and being marked as read. In the past, I used the message pane combined with that "mark as read after 1min" setting.

Now when I archive the message, the archive folder lights up blue and when I go in there, the email that I just archived has a star/rhombus. But I don't want my archive folder to look interesting with a blue color only because I just moved an email into it. All the blue colors are supposed to be for things I haven't seen yet and still need to look at. In fact, any email I move to a place should not be able to make that place look blue. Blue color should be for things that appeared for other reasons.

I'm aware that switching folders (e.g. away from inbox and back to it) or restarting Thunderbird will clear this "newly downloaded" bit. But I'm not doing that. I stay in the inbox, I get emails, I read them or archive them immediately. And when a folder on the left lights up in blue (that can happen thanks to my filter rules), then I take a look at that one as well. My Thunderbird application runs for weeks.

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Autofill adress does not work, adressbooks is working

New PC, Win 11, Adresses are imported, When starting new Mail, Autofill adress does not work, adressbooks is working- I find the adress there, with a klick on the adress… (funda kabanzi)

New PC, Win 11, Adresses are imported, When starting new Mail, Autofill adress does not work, adressbooks is working- I find the adress there, with a klick on the adress I can start a mail- but automaticall fill in is not working. what can I do?

Thanks for a clue and help

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tabbing from subject to writing is now interrupted

I just updated to 159.0 TB seems to have a new annoying behavior. I have reproduced it on two different PCs. I enter an address, then tab to the subject, and then the n… (funda kabanzi)

I just updated to 159.0 TB seems to have a new annoying behavior. I have reproduced it on two different PCs.

I enter an address, then tab to the subject, and then the next tab should take me to the field where I can start typing my email. Instead it takes me to two horizontal blue lines just above that field. See image. The next tab takes me to the field where I can write. It's not a big problem but a new minor annoyance.

Thoughts? Am I missing something?

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Cannot send mail, SMTP server password lost

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:153.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/153.5.1 Linux 7.0.0-42-generic #42~24.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Oct 19 14:43:01 UTC 2 (Mint… (funda kabanzi)

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:153.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/153.5.1 Linux 7.0.0-42-generic #42~24.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Oct 19 14:43:01 UTC 2 (Mint, Cinamon)

Was working well. Began trying to add profiles and could not seem to get that done. Gave up that attempt for now and thought all was well, until I went to send an email late Friday Nov 6, 26. Was challenged for SMTP password. None of the ones I tried seemed to work. The target SMTP machine is local, same subnet, postfix.

Using a backup Laptop as I feared my usual PC, Windows 10, might have been compromised and has been shutdown.

I'm at a loss. Other than change passwords on several machines, what are my options?

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Delay moving pop messages to or from 4 specific mailboxes (win10, v152). (debug process stuck at "Could not start browser toolbox. You need to enable it.") Cause: McAfee

It's very odd. Normally moving an email, say from the Inbox to the relevant year's archive, takes "no time at all". Which is true for all the mailboxes shown on the attac… (funda kabanzi)

It's very odd. Normally moving an email, say from the Inbox to the relevant year's archive, takes "no time at all".

Which is true for all the mailboxes shown on the attached screenshot, EXCEPT for the four at the bottom. Moving even one message from Inbox to Yiddish can take ten seconds or longer (with the dreaded "Not Responding" occasionally). Moving something in the opposite direction is also screwy, only from those four.

I had thought that it was because they're rather large. This first started when there were just Yiddish and MSW, and I split off most of the earlier years into the archives shown. To no avail.

It's only an annoyance, but I'm puzzled about how such a thing could happen.

Also very slow tagging or untagging a message just in those mailboxes.

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Starting Aug 27th I can not down load Emails from Yahoo to Thunderbird tired all listed solutions - any ideas? CAUSE: problem at Yahoo??

I can not down load Emails from Yahoo to Thunderbird. Every things was fine as of Aug 26th. On Aug 27th with no changes to any system settings the Yahoo Emails would not … (funda kabanzi)

I can not down load Emails from Yahoo to Thunderbird. Every things was fine as of Aug 26th. On Aug 27th with no changes to any system settings the Yahoo Emails would not down Load. I am running Win 10 on my system. I disabled the antivirus. Reloaded Thunderbird - no effect.

I have since deleted Thunderbird and then reinstalled latest version of Thunderbird (154.0) . I re-entered my password. I checked the OAuth2 settings and they are set as described in the support article "OAuth2 Authentication for Yahoo, AOL and ATT".

Message bar at bottom of Thunderbird screen shows: Myaccountname@yahoo.com:Downloading message 1 of 7 The emails do not down load - then after a few minutes - a no messages to download message flashes and then blank - nothing

I am out of Ideas. Anyone?

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Issues with spectrum email

In an answer to a previous question, I learned that Spectrum email has issues. I have since learned that Spectrum is slowly phasing their email out. So I'm guessing that … (funda kabanzi)

In an answer to a previous question, I learned that Spectrum email has issues. I have since learned that Spectrum is slowly phasing their email out. So I'm guessing that change is necessary for me. If I create a free Outlook account on my W11 desktop, is using Thunderbird still an option? This whole email thing is confusing for me. Thanks for any help.

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Had a problem which required complete reinstallation of Windows 11, but although I have been able to recover my Thunderbird account I cannot get new emails.

Had a problem which required complete reinstallation of Windows 11, but although I have been able to recover my Thunderbird account I cannot get new emails. I get the fol… (funda kabanzi)

Had a problem which required complete reinstallation of Windows 11, but although I have been able to recover my Thunderbird account I cannot get new emails. I get the following notifications: "Temporary authentication failure" and "Account is temporarily unavailable". When trying to sign in using "Forgot password", I never receive the recovery email. What do I do now?

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I still need to add a new additional email address to my existing Thunderbird account. I still have not been able to identify the revision details from help.

I haven't been able to discover the revision version of my Thunderbird but I think it has probably been over written with a current version today. My current email is a Y… (funda kabanzi)

I haven't been able to discover the revision version of my Thunderbird but I think it has probably been over written with a current version today. My current email is a Yahoo .co.uk What I really need to do is to setup a new additional email with a different @ xxxxx.com.

I would be grateful for some help. Thank you Malcolm Sanderson.

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Message list does not display graphics

The list of messages does not display graphics. Links are displayed instead, but don't always lead to the expected locations. This started unexpectedly and I don't know … (funda kabanzi)

The list of messages does not display graphics. Links are displayed instead, but don't always lead to the expected locations. This started unexpectedly and I don't know the reason.

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Message list does not display graphics

The list of messages does not display graphics. Links are displayed instead, but don't always lead to the expected locations. This started unexpectedly and I don't know … (funda kabanzi)

The list of messages does not display graphics. Links are displayed instead, but don't always lead to the expected locations. This started unexpectedly and I don't know the reason.

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I need to add a new additional email address.

I currently use a Yahoo.co.uk email address but would like to add an additional email address with a different @xxxx.com affix. I have looked at the existing instructions… (funda kabanzi)

I currently use a Yahoo.co.uk email address but would like to add an additional email address with a different @xxxx.com affix.

I have looked at the existing instructions but seem to have missed the appropriate section dealing with it?

I haven't been able to identify the Thunderbird version.

Malcolm Sanderson.

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Adressbuch

Nach einem Absturz musste Windows11 neu geladen werden. Auch Thunderbird musste neu geladen werden. Alle eMails sind vorhanden aber das Adressbuch ist leer. Wie finde ich… (funda kabanzi)

Nach einem Absturz musste Windows11 neu geladen werden. Auch Thunderbird musste neu geladen werden. Alle eMails sind vorhanden aber das Adressbuch ist leer. Wie finde ich mein Adressbuch wieder?

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AOL OAuth2 authentication fails

After upgrading from the previous ESR series (140.17.0esr) I can no longer access my mailbox, due to the OAuth2 authentication process failing. As to items on https://su… (funda kabanzi)

After upgrading from the previous ESR series (140.17.0esr) I can no longer access my mailbox, due to the OAuth2 authentication process failing.

As to items on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-yahoo: 1, 2, 4, and 5 I have double- and triple-checked. 3 is unclear to me: I'm unaware of anything hidden, yet at the same time I would have expected the site to ask me for a 2nd verification step (e.g. sending a numeric token to my mobile phone) after having entered my password. Whether that step isn't shown or whether the failure (see attached picture) occurs ahead of this I cannot tell.

Needless to say that this occurs at about the worst of all possible times, where I will need my private email much more because of soon losing my business one.

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what h ae yoiu done to NT ail - ryined it without y knowledge

I HAE ALREAD ASKED BEAUE I A SO ONFUSED YOU JUST HAGNED THE WAY Y AIL OES IN SUDDENLY - AND I DIDNT KNOW ABOU TIT and nowits in setions that YOU DEIDE WHAT THEYARE - SUD… (funda kabanzi)

I HAE ALREAD ASKED BEAUE I A SO ONFUSED YOU JUST HAGNED THE WAY Y AIL OES IN SUDDENLY - AND I DIDNT KNOW ABOU TIT and nowits in setions that YOU DEIDE WHAT THEYARE - SUDDENLY - AND I HATE IT - IJyou think you are doing the sae as faebook - deiding for e how i like y ail - what for -you did itithouty knowledge and i hae lost y ail and i dont like it - and i dont know if it is eran et - you just did it - and it isthe ony ail i use all the tie the only one i ouniate with - and i anow seerral deays behind - beause i just dont een want to try and figur eout why you just did this - LITTLE SEITONS THAT YOUDEIDE TO PUT Y AIL INTO - LETTERS - DOUETNST WHAT EER IT IS - I HAE AOIDED Y OWNAIL BEAUS EOF IT ANDI JUSTDONT UNDERSTANDIT why would jyyou jus tautoatially hnge the syste that was just finebefor e- espeially with no notie - JUST HANGE IT AND HOPE THEY LIKE IT - I A TOO OLD FOR HTIS SORT OF SUDDEN HAGNE - AN D IF I OLD JUST LEAE THE INTERNET PERENTENTLY I WOULD - where i was there fro the beginning - old bird - ranky and really annoyed yo u jsut HANGE D IT - and i just dont understand it -WHY - and an it jsut be swtjed bak to the old way - I LIKE THE OING INTHEORDER THEY ALWAYS HAE OE IN - BY WHEN THEY OE - but you just deided to put y ail into ittle groups OR SOETHING - gee -IT SI HORRIBLE -AN YOU PLEASE TELL E A WAY TO NOT DO THIS I HAENT BEEN ABLET O GET TO Y AIL EEN TO SEE IF THERE IS URGENT THINGS - BEAUSE IT HAE IT NOW - WHERE IT JST WAS WEHAT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN BEFORE ytou hae no right to jst Ehange thisng like that-n i RTOOO OLD NOW TO TRYAND FIGURE OUT YOUR QUIK SURPRIS HANGES AND STUFF AROUND WITH Y EAILS - WHIH IS WHAT WE HE THE INTERNET FOR - AND OUNUITE WITH - IT IS INE - NOTYOURS - AND I WOULD LEAE PERANETLY F I OULD - I ALREADY A SLAE TO IT - UR FWEW - JSAUR HANGE THINGS WITH OUT EEN TELLINGANYONE - or did you and i didnt see it- where was it - it wanst in an eail to e htoug was it -WHAT HAE YOU DOJNT AND WHY I A REALLY ANNOYED I AN T TELL YOU - YO U HAE NO RIGH TOTO FIDDLE AROUND WTIH AIL \

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Thunderbird usually only launches fully on the second attempt

To get Thunderbird to display correctly on the screen, you usually need to restart it once or even several times. Even then, Thunderbird is often not fully displayed, as … (funda kabanzi)

To get Thunderbird to display correctly on the screen, you usually need to restart it once or even several times. Even then, Thunderbird is often not fully displayed, as the word ‘Inbox’ appears in italics beneath the email address, with the ‘Junk’ folder below it. Reinstalling Thunderbird has not resolved the issue.

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