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Not sure if anyone else has realized this but Akamai / Edgesuite is using its algorythms to force people to stop using fire fox The reason that I see this is that I run a server with almost 100 web sites on it

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Not sure if anyone else has realized this but Akamai / Edgesuite is using its algorithms to force people to stop using fire fox The reason that I see this is that I run a server with almost 100 web sites on it and Firefox has dropped from being quite significant a couple of years back. This is from one site of the almost 100 but is quite typical.

Google Chrome No 1,568 62.9 % 1,867 56.6 % Safari No 589 23.6 % 816 24.7 % Firefox No 191 7.6 % 427 12.9 %

There are a number of requests opened about this but the only solution seems to be to switch to chrome. A massive number of major store sites are now using akamai / edgesuite and almost no-one using firefox can visit their stores now because of an error produced and there does not appear a simple solution for a person to even reach them. Some of the stores are Lowes, Tractor Supply, CVS, and others.

Not sure if anyone else has realized this but Akamai / Edgesuite is using its algorithms to force people to stop using fire fox The reason that I see this is that I run a server with almost 100 web sites on it and Firefox has dropped from being quite significant a couple of years back. This is from one site of the almost 100 but is quite typical. Google Chrome No 1,568 62.9 % 1,867 56.6 % Safari No 589 23.6 % 816 24.7 % Firefox No 191 7.6 % 427 12.9 % There are a number of requests opened about this but the only solution seems to be to switch to chrome. A massive number of major store sites are now using akamai / edgesuite and almost no-one using firefox can visit their stores now because of an error produced and there does not appear a simple solution for a person to even reach them. Some of the stores are Lowes, Tractor Supply, CVS, and others.

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As you suggested:

    Please check if you have Enhanced Tracking Protection (ETP) enabled. You can do that by clicking the shield Fx89ShieldIcon icon in the left part of the address bar.
       If ETP is enabled, try disabling it.   Disabled
   If the problem is not fixed, try clearing Firefox cache.   cleared only the cache and cookies related to this specific site. 
   If it does not help, try clearing cookies and data for the website you experience troubles with (warning: you will be logged out on this website).  cleared only the cache and cookies related to this specific site. 
   If it also does not help, try running Firefox in Troubleshoot Mode. If the problem doesn't persist, please follow the steps from this article to troubleshoot further.  Did not help
   If nothing from the above helps, try creating a new Firefox profile and check if the issue persists there. If it doesn't, you can start copying files from your old profile to the new one to identify which one causes the issue. See this article on what files to copy.   Yes. Still did not help.


I posted the follow information on another case:

Updated and made some corrections but they are intentionally blocking privacy.

"According to the AI posted response: While users frequently vent frustrations online about "Edgesuite.net Access Denied" errors when trying to log into banking or retail portals, these blocks are an intentional, technical byproduct of cybersecurity protocols"

"Flagging Browser Outliers: If you use an outdated browser, a privacy-focused niche browser, certain VPN/browser combinations, or have a user-agent string that appears anomalous, Akamai’s automated security protocols flag your HTTP request header as "suspicious" and automatically throw a 403 Forbidden or Access Denied error."

Note that FireFox is considered an "outlier browser" because it constitutes only 3 to 4 percent of internet activity.

At issue here is that the continued action, not only by Akaimi Edgesuite as well as Cloudflare, more and more users are being forced away from Firefox. Whether this is intentional or not is mute.

I replied When a customer has an existing account, it is their right to use a chosen product such as Firefox on Linux for their own benefit. The customers already have an established relationship with their account and a proven reliability of non -transgression relationship. Regardless of intent, the limitation of the customers right constitutes a judgement against the customer without due cause. It is also, while not intentionally, a forced movement from a customer's favored product to another commercial product that deprives the customer of certain privacy considerations.

While I do not know if there is any applicable legal precedence on the use of this in commercial applications ( Lowes, Chewy, Walmart, GoDaddy, etc. ) there is a legal foundation that requires financial institutions to allow access.

Some of the legal framework is discussed here:

"Breach of Covenant of Good Faith and Fair Dealing: Even if a bank's Terms of Service grant them broad rights to secure their network, every contract implies a covenant of good faith. A plaintiff could argue that blocking an established consumer who has zero history of transgression—and failing to provide a reasonable alternative—unreasonably deprives them of the benefit of their agreement.

Deceptive or Unfair Business Practices (UDAP): In the United States, states have "Unfair and Deceptive Acts or Practices" laws (such as California’s UCL). You could argue that marketing a banking product as "accessible anywhere, anytime" while deploying automated firewalls that block standard, open-source software like Firefox on Linux constitutes an unfair business practice.

Digital Interoperability & Essential Services: In the EU, regulations like the Digital Markets Act (DMA) are establishing precedents regarding interoperability and the right of users to choose their software ecosystems. While the US lacks a direct equivalent, a novel lawsuit could argue that digital banking has become an "essential public accommodation," and denying access based on non-standard, privacy-preserving setups amounts to arbitrary exclusion."

Anyone who has access denied to their account because of privacy settings has legal recourse.

The first step is to send a letter to their legal department by certified mail, return receipt requested. Once they have received their letter, they have a number of days to resolve the problem. After this period of time, the next step is to contact, first, your states Attorney General explaining the issue.

Note that: I am not a lawyer or a legal professional in any way. Always consult with your own attorney in regards to such matters.

"According to the AI posted response: While users frequently vent frustrations online about "Edgesuite.net Access Denied" errors when trying to log into banking or retail portals, these blocks are an intentional, technical byproduct of cybersecurity protocols"

Well I wouldn't believe a convenience from an entity that has no intelligence though I suppose if you think it is intelligent then it makes sense to post what you have

So do you a few sites I could check?

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