PS - how do I check for bugs in updates, so I can look without posting a question here?

It's hard to answer when you say "it doesn't open ... the way it used to". What did it do previously? What does it do now? What exactly do you think has changed?

I can't say that in general I'd expect a double-click to open a message for editing. In most cases, it would open in a new tab or window, for reading. Maybe it would open for editing in the particular case of the Drafts folder, though I have to say I have only ever used the "Edit" button to do this.

Zenos - it's what you said. From main inbox double click used to open in a new window or new tab. From drafts it opened in new window for editing. Double click now does nothing at all.

Just tested - it's the Maximize Message Pane add on that's doing it. I forgot I'd added it at the same time as updating.

I'm playing with the options to see if it's one in particular.

I still have the question:

- where do you go to post about a new problem with an update?

- where do you go to see what problems have been reported with a new update?

Is there an organized specific way for those?

Changing the addon's settings didn't fix this. Too bad, I reallly like this addon. Will have to look at the home page for it, and see if it's expected or a bug.

How is this marked solved? I'm the asker and I didn't pick a solution. I wanted to leave it open to gather answers to the parts of my question that weren't answered.

The picked answer doesn't answer the original question. The answer was that I discovered an add-on was causing the problem.

It is not marked solved. (Sorry I have no way of checking its History to see how or if it was previously marked solved)

curls said

The FF upgrade has a problem too where it stores a bookmark just by opening bookmark, then disappears in 3 secs.

You probably should start a new question for that one. Also, describe what you mean by "opening bookmark" since I'm not clear on what that involves.

There were minior changes to how th bookmarks icon behaves. One clicked, if you do not kkep focus by having the cursor on it the bookmark dialogue sets the bookmark and disapears. It still has the arrowheads that give dropdown for recently used folders or the full bookmarks folder tree.

I have not got other Firefox versions available right now for checking.. As jscher2000 mentioned, if this is important to you please start a new question. (You may wish to cross link from this thread so we see it.)

If you click on the bookmark menu icon adjacent to the star that stays open. The bookmark star also stays open if the page is already bookmarked, that does not remove the bookmark after 3 seconds. It all seems reasonable behaviour to me.

John99 said

There were minior changes to how th bookmarks icon behaves. One clicked, if you do not keep focus by having the cursor on it the bookmark dialogue sets the bookmark and disapears. It still has the arrowheads that give dropdown for recently used folders or the full bookmarks folder tree. I have not got other Firefox versions available right now for checking.. As jscher2000 mentioned, if this is important to you please start a new question. (You may wish to cross link from this thread so we see it.) If you click on the bookmark menu icon adjacent to the star that stays open. The bookmark star also stays open if the page is already bookmarked, that does not remove the bookmark after 3 seconds. It all seems reasonable behaviour to me.

I'm not sure I follow all of these changes. Is there somewhere formal where the changes are listed?

Regardless, sometimes I start to bookmark, realize I need to look up something to know the tag I want to give, or what folder name or double check if I really want to tag it... and then the bookmark box disappears on me while I'm looking elsewhere and decides I did want to set one. I don't find it reasonable that it sets a bookmark to a non-descript folder rather than allowing me to push set when I'm ready and have finished choosing all my settings. I'd like option to turn off on this auto bookmark behavior. It was not auto setting bookmarks in prior versions, or I would have noticed.

So is there a formal "update central" somewhere that these types of changes are listed for each update? I've seen written descriptions of update changes, but they are brief and only include some of the changes. That would be my starting point to understand changes, rather than needing post and have everyone answer to questions about them. Please point me there. Also to where you comment on bugs and problems with new updates. Those are where I'd rather start, than with first creating a new question.

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"If you click on the bookmark menu icon adjacent to the star that stays open. The bookmark star also stays open if the page is already bookmarked, that does not remove the bookmark after 3 seconds."

This is what I didn't understand. So if it's already bookmarked, it doesn't rebookmark after 3 seconds. Sure makes sense. It also gives option to remove the bookmark, but doesn't indicate that it has and instead still reports "page bookmarked" after you hit "remove bookmark." It probably does so because it removes the bookmark, then sets a new one automatically or is about to because now there wasn't a bookmark, so it making a new one and reports it as made before it's actually made.

Trying it out right now - cntrl-D doesn't wait 3 seconds to make the bookmark. It starts out with "page bookmarked" and gives an option to "remove bookmark." Next time you open cntl-d it says "edit this bookmark" with the same "remove bookmark" option. At the least, there needs to be descriptor of automatic behavior like this to easily access. I don't find this functional and want to turn it off. I want to choose my bookmark settings first, before the page is bookmarked or says it is.

Thanks!

curls said

Is there somewhere formal where the changes are listed? ... So is there a formal "update central" somewhere that these types of changes are listed for each update? I've seen written descriptions of update changes, but they are brief and only include some of the changes.

That's true. Only changes deemed to be major are highlighted and get an article or blog post. The other 1,000+ changes in each major release can be difficult to research. And it's generally a waste of time to comment on closed bugs.

Trying it out right now - cntrl-D doesn't wait 3 seconds to make the bookmark. It starts out with "page bookmarked" and gives an option to "remove bookmark." Next time you open cntl-d it says "edit this bookmark" with the same "remove bookmark" option. At the least, there needs to be descriptor of automatic behavior like this to easily access. I don't find this functional and want to turn it off. I want to choose my bookmark settings first, before the page is bookmarked or says it is.

Yes, this is how it works now. "Bookmark This Page" takes effect immediately upon pressing the command, saving to the default location (for Ctrl+d, the bottom of the Bookmarks Menu, for a click on the star icon, the end of the Unsorted Bookmarks list).

No, there isn't an option to switch back to "don't save until I finish." You can submit feature suggestions here (click the sad face):

https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/firefox

There might also be add-ons that do it a different way.

curls said

.... Trying it out right now - cntrl-D doesn't wait 3 seconds to make the bookmark. It starts out with "page bookmarked" and gives an option to "remove bookmark." .... Thanks!

For me if I use Ctrl D or click the bookmark star there is some delay before the dialogue disapears. So my new bookmarks only go in and stay in the unsorted folder if that is my deliberate intention. Otherwise I place them in the folder I wish with any tag I wish. I rarewly rename bookmarks, but of course that may also be done from the bookmarks star before it closes down.

It may add the bookmark to unsorted. However as long as the cursor is within the dialogue area you may open and expand other folders and place the bookmark wherever you want before the dialogue closes down.

I note with the Ctrl+D method the arrowhead for recent folders is not included as you cycle through the options using the Tab key. However as long as you hit the tab key the focus is then within the dialogue and it stays open until you take some other action.

You may of course at any time open the bookmarks Library/Manager (Keyboard Shortcut Ctlr+Shift+B) and examine or sort bookmarks

• Bookmarks in Firefox
  • That article also explains the bookmark star icon may be used to edit bookmarks How do I change the name and location of a bookmark?

Grrr, somehow the question got solved again without my meaning that. I can only assume I must have hit the big green button in the email to go to it --- automatically. Doesn't anyone else do the same thing by accident too?? Maybe the solution is to stop reading the emails. It's too automatic a response to hit a big green button to see more.

When you tab through the dropdown for recent files is there. It doesn't highlight any way I tab to it. But I don't use tabbing anyway normally.

This is backwards function in my use... I do not want bookmarks made and me to have to quickly get myself over to the box --- to avoid that. Let me decide what gets done. This is poor functionality and I would greatly like to see an option to turn it off. Crazy -- unsorted bookmarks because I didn't move the mouse enough after doing cntrl-D. (Or I had to move the mouse at all to avoid further computer-generated action.) I don't want my computer pressuring me, lol!

Opening library to undo what just got done --- isn't an ideal solution either... Rather just bookmark in the first place at my own pace.

Hi curls, if the panel closes on you and you don't want to move your mouse pointer, press Ctrl+d again to reopen it. As long as you haven't moved on to another page, Firefox knows exactly what bookmark you want to edit.

jscher2000 said

Hi curls, if the panel closes on you and you don't want to move your mouse pointer, press Ctrl+d again to reopen it. As long as you haven't moved on to another page, Firefox knows exactly what bookmark you want to edit.

Yes, i can redo what I just asked for, and undo what the browser decided I wanted. I really don't want the browser dictating my actions to me. Either hurrying me, or making me redo or undo. This isn't a process I can sign onto -- it's too complicated a choice to add a bookmark for the browser to be guessing that I want one under unsorted, and a 3 sec default. It's close to a deal-breaker for using this browser, much as I prefer it. It's too much to have -pressure- to -act- because I wanted to open a bookmark and do it slowly and thoughtfully...

Thank you though for the though :)!

I don't think you need to feel rushed. That's why it's so easy to edit or remove the bookmark.

Maybe your bookmarks are more like a carefully organized study bookcase. Mine are more like that stack of magazines on the floor near the bed. There's usually enough information for me to find it later just based on what Firefox captures from the site, and there's never enough time to organize things, and most of the time I'll lose interest in a little bit.

jscher2000 said

I don't think you need to feel rushed. That's why it's so easy to edit or remove the bookmark. Maybe your bookmarks are more like a carefully organized study bookcase. Mine are more like that stack of magazines on the floor near the bed. There's usually enough information for me to find it later just based on what Firefox captures from the site, and there's never enough time to organize things, and most of the time I'll lose interest in a little bit.

If a computer is doing something if I don't move fast enough to stop it... then I'm rushed. And it's not an answer to have to remove what IT DECIDED to do. It becomes a mentally different state if I know the computer will be saving something when i don't want it to... rather than waiting for ME to decide the next step.

My bookmarks were a mess. I could never find anything. I'm straightening them out and have a new process. Lol, it doesn't involve unsorted bookmarks that created themselves just because I thought "bookmark" for a moment (and hit cntrl-d).

With my new process there's time to organize because it doesn't take long to put it in a good choice of folder. In my old method I wasted tons of time trying to find things. I'm really happy with my new method.

Sure it's find to have auto save... but it desperately needs an option to turn off that timer, and not pre-set or save them, for those of us who like to control this process. It's not a naturally background process. It's about organizing, and people have very different styles.