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page loading stalls or glacially slow - is it Firefox or search engine or AddOns or IP... ?

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Sending this using Safari because Firefox is totally messed up. Firefox 115.24.0esr (64-bit) OSX 10.13.6 High Sierra 2011 Mac Power Book (MPB) with 16 GB RAM. Verizon DSL line, download speed tests from 10-14 Gb/sec but Latency is always 400-900+ msec. No way to measure Jitter with speedtests that will run on my older system, or Bufferbloat now that DSLreports has gone dark.

I want a tool that will allow me to see all the attempts to connect, and packets/traffic, to see it its my old computer going bad, Firefox, the wireless or wired connection to the DSL modem/router, or the DLS modem/router itself, such as a problem with reaching the Domain Name Server (DNS) etc.

I can access the DSL modem/router in the browser, but there isn't much documentation. Its made by Actiontec but customized firmware for Verizon.

The problem persists whether I am using wifi or an Ethernet cable.

My wifes 2010 MBP computer with 8GB RAM using about 6.4GB, running High Sierra and Firefox 115.24.0 (esr) seems not to have the problem at all.

Firefox will show something in the lower left corner, "connecting to..." or "loading..." etc. It can stall with either status.

Search engines would be StartPage or DuckDuckgo. With DDgo, sometimes it just spins forever, but if I click on the URL bar, it drops down another line with the same URL and "--Visit" appended. Sometimes that will load, but seems random.

Some URLs / links open in a few seconds, some spin forever.

I first called Verizon Tech support on May22 about problems (see full exchange of repeated calls & new trouble tickets below). I think, IIRC, this happens to be shortly after I upgraded my Firefox version. They have admitted to PINGs not returning, packet loss, no excuse for the Latency.

I do have a lot of pages/tabs open; Activity Monitor says my memory use is about 14GB, but the Memory Pressure stays low in the green. I also run Thunderbird, TextEdit, maybe Adobe Reader and Excel. But even when I close everything else, the non-loading issue persists. When I shut down Firefox, the memory pressure can go into the red and take a very long time (so I always shut down all other apps first). A recent shutdown stalled & I ended up losing many open pages/tabs, but even the slimmed down load has the same problem.

I have shut off the AddOn NoScript, but the problem persists.

FILE: verizon DSL tech support WED 21MAY25 glacially slow web page connection

800-837-4966 AGENT DSL tech support

failing the PING reset my IP address still fails PING

trouble ticket MDHM03KR7A

2-3 working days for networking team to resolve

THUR 22MAY25 call back from networking guy. they raised the speed to 13.4 but latency still 28, he says should be 15 max. Asked him to optimize by reducing download speed. will call back later or tomorrow.

Sending this using Safari because Firefox is totally messed up. Firefox 115.24.0esr (64-bit) OSX 10.13.6 High Sierra 2011 Mac Power Book (MPB) with 16 GB RAM. Verizon DSL line, download speed tests from 10-14 Gb/sec but Latency is always 400-900+ msec. No way to measure Jitter with speedtests that will run on my older system, or Bufferbloat now that DSLreports has gone dark. I want a tool that will allow me to see all the attempts to connect, and packets/traffic, to see it its my old computer going bad, Firefox, the wireless or wired connection to the DSL modem/router, or the DLS modem/router itself, such as a problem with reaching the Domain Name Server (DNS) etc. I can access the DSL modem/router in the browser, but there isn't much documentation. Its made by Actiontec but customized firmware for Verizon. The problem persists whether I am using wifi or an Ethernet cable. My wifes 2010 MBP computer with 8GB RAM using about 6.4GB, running High Sierra and Firefox 115.24.0 (esr) seems not to have the problem at all. Firefox will show something in the lower left corner, "connecting to..." or "loading..." etc. It can stall with either status. Search engines would be StartPage or DuckDuckgo. With DDgo, sometimes it just spins forever, but if I click on the URL bar, it drops down another line with the same URL and "--Visit" appended. Sometimes that will load, but seems random. Some URLs / links open in a few seconds, some spin forever. I first called Verizon Tech support on May22 about problems (see full exchange of repeated calls & new trouble tickets below). I think, IIRC, this happens to be shortly after I upgraded my Firefox version. They have admitted to PINGs not returning, packet loss, no excuse for the Latency. I do have a lot of pages/tabs open; Activity Monitor says my memory use is about 14GB, but the Memory Pressure stays low in the green. I also run Thunderbird, TextEdit, maybe Adobe Reader and Excel. But even when I close everything else, the non-loading issue persists. When I shut down Firefox, the memory pressure can go into the red and take a very long time (so I always shut down all other apps first). A recent shutdown stalled & I ended up losing many open pages/tabs, but even the slimmed down load has the same problem. I have shut off the AddOn NoScript, but the problem persists. ***** FILE: verizon DSL tech support WED 21MAY25 glacially slow web page connection 800-837-4966 AGENT DSL tech support failing the PING reset my IP address still fails PING trouble ticket MDHM03KR7A 2-3 working days for networking team to resolve THUR 22MAY25 call back from networking guy. they raised the speed to 13.4 but latency still 28, he says should be 15 max. Asked him to optimize by reducing download speed. will call back later or tomorrow.

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CORRECTION the above pasted exchange with Verizon is just part of it, failed to copy it all, so here are all five phone calls:

file FORUM Verizon Phone Repair login process

SUN 8JUN25 problem still exists. web page loading just stalling out quit Firefox & using Safari with only 3GB RAM used

Fast.com speed test took minutes to to download, and for upload says "cannot reach the server, you may not be connected to the internet" download was to Baltimore, upload to Philadelphia

Tech support - problem on their end, PING failing badly from main central office. Escalating problem. new trouble ticket MDHM03KSHC

THUR 5JUN25 8:30 AM problem persists Carlos DSL tech, then engineer Carla NEW trouble ticket MDHM03KS7D

PACKET LOSS PROBLEM

modem 192.168.1.1 USER xxx PW xxx

Tech concluded by download speed is OK even though Latency is about 700ms, and any loading issues must be with Firefox.

FRI 30MAY25 same problem, glacially slow did tests, escalated again 24-48 hrs to call me if they need me

FILE: verizon DSL tech support WED 21MAY25 glacially slow web page connection

800-837-4966 AGENT DSL tech support

failing the PING reset my IP address still fails PING

trouble ticket MDHM03KR7A

2-3 working days for networking team to resolve

THUR 22MAY25 call back from networking guy. they raised the speed to 13.4 but latency still 28, he says should be 15 max. Asked him to optimize by reducing download speed. will call back later or tomorrow.

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Example happening now. Received several Thunderbird emails from a forum I belong to, each notifying me of a new post in different conversations. I clicked on the View Discussion link in the first email, and it opened fine. I replied with my own post.

Then I went to the second email, clicked, and its just blank. This one has the second URL drop-down that ends in "--Visit" and clicking on that does nothing, still a blank page.

Same for the third.

But I just went back to Firefox and the second two have loaded, taking several minutes, and nothing in the bottom left of the page that usually informs be "connecting to..." or "loading..." etc.

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WRT the above pages, clicking on the "goto another page" in the discussion is taking several minutes to happen.

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I copied the link in one of those emails & pasted into Safari, and it opens immediately.

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regarding switching to another page in the discussion - I just went to the URL bar and it said "page-2" so I changed it to "9" and its spinning.

So the good loading of the first page says I don't have a problem with an AddOn ??? The rest indicates some sort of communication glitch, unique to Firefox but not happening in Safari ???

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