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[In KB] Assistive technology compatibility - unarchive?

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  1. John99
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    Assistive technology compatibility is archived, but is linked from Accessibility features in Firefox - Make Firefox and web content work for all users

    This may be a low hit article, and so be archived because of the low use, but that will be because of its specialist nature. Does consideration need to be given to un-archiving that article, and if necessary updating it.

    I noticed this whilst looking at a post by a user of assitive technology theplotbunny. Perhaps someone will look at that post and try to provide answers or links to suitable information see:

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    Note Kadir Topal & Michael Verdi are Firefox management (click their profile links) :

    [[Assistive technology compatibility]] is archived, but is linked from [[Accessibility]] This may be a low hit article, and so be archived because of the low use, but that will be because of its specialist nature. Does consideration need to be given to un-archiving that article, and if necessary updating it. ------------- I noticed this whilst looking at a post by a user of assitive technology ''theplotbunny''. Perhaps someone will look at that post and try to provide answers or links to suitable information see: * ''I am blind and use jaws (screen reader) ... '' https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/889515 -------- Discussions on archived articles * thread: Article Archive https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forums/contributors/704981 Note Kadir Topal & Michael Verdi are Firefox management (click their profile links) : * Michael: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/user/160087 * Kadir https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/user/4081
  2. Michael Verdi
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    Couple of comments:

    • Number of views isn't the only thing I've considered when archiving/unarchiving an article. Certainly, I wouldn't expect this article to get a lot of views.
    • We need someone familiar with these technologies to help in this case. I don't have any idea if this article is actually up-to-date or not. And unless someone else can answer that I think it has to remain archived which adds the note, "This article is no longer maintained, so its content might be out of date."
    • I saw someone at the all hands meeting last month who works on accessibility in Firefox. I can find out who that person is and ask for some advice on our articles.
    • A separate issue altogether - from reading the question submitted by theplotbunny, I'm unsure if the problem lies with Firefox and it's interaction with the screen reader or with the way the website is coded. If I go to http://ariasink.com/user.php and view source, I don't see form labels being used at all. Also that page doesn't even come close to validating. I don't have any experience with using a screen reader but it doesn't look like the people who made that site have taken screen readers into consideration at all.
    Couple of comments: * Number of views isn't the only thing I've considered when archiving/unarchiving an article. Certainly, I wouldn't expect this article to get a lot of views. * We need someone familiar with these technologies to help in this case. I don't have any idea if this article is actually up-to-date or not. And unless someone else can answer that I think it has to remain archived which adds the note, "This article is no longer maintained, so its content might be out of date." * I saw someone at the all hands meeting last month who works on accessibility in Firefox. I can find out who that person is and ask for some advice on our articles. * A separate issue altogether - from reading the question submitted by theplotbunny, I'm unsure if the problem lies with Firefox and it's interaction with the screen reader or with the way the website is coded. If I go to http://ariasink.com/user.php and view source, I don't see form labels being used at all. Also that page doesn't even come close to validating. I don't have any experience with using a screen reader but it doesn't look like the people who made that site have taken screen readers into consideration at all.
  3. John99
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    ok, thanks for the quick answer.

    ok, thanks for the quick answer.
  4. Michael Verdi
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    I emailed Marco Zehe and asked for his advice. I'll let you know what he says.

    I emailed Marco Zehe and asked for his advice. I'll let you know what he says.
  5. Michael Verdi
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    From IRC:

    verdi: did you have some thoughts about our articles?

    MarcoZ: They were all written in the Firefox 3 time frame and are basically still valid. The assistive technology compatibility article may need some version number updating, but basically it's still valid.

    verdi: that's good to hear

    MarcoZ: The Firefox 3 with screen readers FAQ is also still valid, may need some updating here and there with version numbers, too. But the big drastic change between Firefox 2 and 3 was the reason for these articles. Since Firefox 3, support and such have been stable, just developed further along, but there was not another such drastic cut as between Firefox 2 and 3.

    verdi: But I guess what I really don't know is what are the common problems and questions people run in to?

    MarcoZ: I don't think there are many. And I think the Firefox 3 with screen readers FAQ covers pretty much everything that's needed to know. Furthermore, the commercial and open-source assistive technology vendors have their Firefox support documented, too, so people have those resources to go to as well.

    MarcoZ: I also hardly ever get pinged on issues coming up on Sumo, and my occasional searches also don't reveal stuff that's noteworthy or not yet documented.

    verdi: yeah I've almost never seen a question about things - but it did come up and thought we should look at it again since it's been a while. Maybe I should take a look at that FAQ and see if I can adapt it as a more general purpose article rather than a what's new in Fx 3 kind of thing.

    MarcoZ: Great idea! Let me know if I can help or should look it over once you're done, and I'll be happy to do so.

    From IRC: '''verdi:''' did you have some thoughts about our articles? '''MarcoZ:''' They were all written in the Firefox 3 time frame and are basically still valid. The assistive technology compatibility article may need some version number updating, but basically it's still valid. '''verdi:''' that's good to hear '''MarcoZ:''' The Firefox 3 with screen readers FAQ is also still valid, may need some updating here and there with version numbers, too. But the big drastic change between Firefox 2 and 3 was the reason for these articles. Since Firefox 3, support and such have been stable, just developed further along, but there was not another such drastic cut as between Firefox 2 and 3. '''verdi:''' But I guess what I really don't know is what are the common problems and questions people run in to? '''MarcoZ:''' I don't think there are many. And I think the Firefox 3 with screen readers FAQ covers pretty much everything that's needed to know. Furthermore, the commercial and open-source assistive technology vendors have their Firefox support documented, too, so people have those resources to go to as well. '''MarcoZ:''' I also hardly ever get pinged on issues coming up on Sumo, and my occasional searches also don't reveal stuff that's noteworthy or not yet documented. '''verdi:''' yeah I've almost never seen a question about things - but it did come up and thought we should look at it again since it's been a while. Maybe I should take a look at that FAQ and see if I can adapt it as a more general purpose article rather than a what's new in Fx 3 kind of thing. '''MarcoZ:''' Great idea! Let me know if I can help or should look it over once you're done, and I'll be happy to do so.
  6. Chris Ilias
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    For Firefox 4, I asked in mozilla.dev.accessibility. If we're looking for a specific person, the last one I remember is David Bolter.

    For Firefox 4, I asked in [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.accessibility/browse_frm/thread/73113ba31febafc1 mozilla.dev.accessibility]. If we're looking for a specific person, the last one I remember is David Bolter.
  7. cor-el
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    There is also this Mozilla site that looks even older, speaking about Firefox 1.5:

    There is also this Mozilla site that looks even older, speaking about Firefox 1.5: *http://www.mozilla.org/access/ - Mozilla Accessibility Project
  8. AliceWyman
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    Locking. Please continue discussion here:

    https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Assistive%20technology%20compatibility/discuss/1996

    Locking. Please continue discussion here: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Assistive%20technology%20compatibility/discuss/1996