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DoH question -- am I understanding this right?

markwarner22 replied
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It seems to me that Firefox's DoH implementation is not just pointless but actually harmful. It is security theater. Let me explain:

  • There is no fine-grained control
  • There is no ability for the user to choose what level applies to what networks
  • Default Protection provides no protection when there is a canary domain (trivial)
  • Increased Protection provides no protection when the default provider fails (trivial)
  • Max Protection requires manual intervention when the default provider fails
  • Bonus: it's inconvenient or impossible to use on mobile

For DoH to be useful, the user has to invest effort they could better spend setting up a proper system-level solution.

It seems to me that Firefox's DoH implementation is not just pointless but actually harmful. It is security theater. Let me explain: * There is no fine-grained control * There is no ability for the user to choose what level applies to what networks * Default Protection provides no protection when there is a canary domain (trivial) * Increased Protection provides no protection when the default provider fails (trivial) * Max Protection requires manual intervention when the default provider fails * Bonus: it's inconvenient or impossible to use on mobile For DoH to be useful, the user has to invest effort they could better spend setting up a proper system-level solution.

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When I said "default provider", I meant the provider that is used by default, according to the user's preferences (or according to Mozilla's preferences in the case of Default Protection). Of course, if the user sets a lesser known DoH provider, some of the issues are less significant. It mainly applies to the major DoH providers.