mereasner said

Respectfully... this company would be better served to have staff working on fixing the font problem than monitoring and correcting the form and language of responses to the font problem in the forum.

Forums are divided into different languages, categories, and action permissions for volunteers. We all answer questions for solutions, but when necessary, volunteers with certain permissions can make certain decisions if needed for improved and more appropriate support. From what I can see here, there are volunteers who are taking their time to help you in the best way possible. I want to make it clear that volunteers with certain permissions are not only limited to performing the actions in which they are posted, that is, we all work to get the best possible answer to the questions of those seeking our help. As my focus is on the Firefox Forums (Desktop, Preview, Android) in the EN region, it would not be convenient for me to try to help a user whose knowledge has not yet been given to me. I hope you understand the position of us volunteers.

If you need help regarding the moderation position of the forums, you can count on me, although it is not limited to me alone.

meaganmargaret said

What a useless comment. Mozilla/Thunderbird has been doing this now for years. They issue an update which basically disables the application for so many of us and then they beg for money, and after they've so negatively affected so many users, they do nothing, and then they continue to release defective product. Screw that, I'm done. You won't have to worry about me posting here again. Mozilla needs to shut down - its a dysfunctional organization, and it's outlived any useful purpose it may have once had.

I am sorry to hear. Unfortunately Mozilla no longer maintains the Thunderbird project, now it is the Mozilla community that maintains it as its success is still great. Currently Mozilla has focused on other projects, but that doesn't mean the community has to stop supporting a particular Mozilla product. Because all projects are Open Source, this means other developers can continue or create a new project based on the source code of some Mozilla product.

mereasner said

I am on a mac and can make the font smaller with your fix but not any larger. Also, got hit with the dark mode and tiny font today without any warning. I am really having trouble reading my e-mail. Got the white background back after hunting around to find the fix (why not include that with the what's new info?). And really need a way to easily fix the font size. The add-ons keep vanishing with the upgrades. Why not go back a couple of versions so that people can read their e-mail? Can you not add the WeTransfer feature to an older version? In this case newer is definitely not better.

meaganmargaret said

Why in God's Name do you do this [Deleted] with the fonts every time? Not sure I would l have worded it this way. However, I agree -:) You call this an update? I call it a major screw-up! The fonts are so tiny they are unreadable, and adjusting layout.css.dev.....doesn't work!! You should NEVER release another edition of Thunderbird without menu font control. It's NOT WORTH IT!! I had contributed $$$ in the past but I am so sick of this [Deleted] - every dam release it's like this, and I'm done! Not a penny for Mozilla, not for Thunderbird and not for Firefox. Just [Deleted] already, I think of you like a patient on life support who needs the plug pulled..... What in the [Deleted] is wrong with you people?

Not sure I would have worded it this way. However, I agree -:)

Samuel Santos said

mereasner said

Respectfully... this company would be better served to have staff working on fixing the font problem than monitoring and correcting the form and language of responses to the font problem in the forum.

Forums are divided into different languages, categories, and action permissions for volunteers. We all answer questions for solutions, but when necessary, volunteers with certain permissions can make certain decisions if needed for improved and more appropriate support. From what I can see here, there are volunteers who are taking their time to help you in the best way possible. I want to make it clear that volunteers with certain permissions are not only limited to performing the actions in which they are posted, that is, we all work to get the best possible answer to the questions of those seeking our help. As my focus is on the Firefox Forums (Desktop, Preview, Android) in the EN region, it would not be convenient for me to try to help a user whose knowledge has not yet been given to me. I hope you understand the position of us volunteers.

If you need help regarding the moderation position of the forums, you can count on me, although it is not limited to me alone.

I appreciate your response but again respectfully (as I really am trying to find a solution - not just complain)... The company/community is not listening to what the problem with the product is from the consumers. (From the people they request donations from.) If you volunteers all got together and refused to donate your time until it was fixed, perhaps they would spend their programming time make the product usable (font size which I cannot change to larger even with your solution) instead of adding large file transfers through WeTransfer. There obviously is a solution that they could get from the person who makes the add-on. How hard would it be to incorporate it permanently into the program?

Thanks to all the above posters for helping me enlarge the font size. I have no grief with the moderators of this thread, but the MANAGERS and ENGINEERS in charge (I use the term loosely, based on the complaints here, which echo my own, as a decades-long user) should be ashamed of themselves for ignoring such a SIMPLE issue to correct in the U.I.

sfhowes said

See the attached pictures which show TB with the preference set to the default (-1.0), 1.25 and 1.45. Choose a value that works best with your screen resolution and eyesight. I think it's clear that the value affects the fonts for the menus, message bodies, and the folder and threads panes.

I'm new to Thunderbird and don't understand this. WHERE are the settings FOUND, to change the column and side panel fonts?

Just registering that I too will give up with Thunderbird after more than 10 years due to the font size problem, which just got so bad as to make it impossible to use the programme at all.

Get yourself some readers if it is that bad, good luck finding another system 10% as good as TB.

sfhowes said

gailflei said

I have TB 68.1.1 64-bit on Windows 10. Trying to increase font size in message subjects, tabs, and toolbars per your instructions, but there is no "preference" in the edit menu. Is it 'hidden'? if so, any way to 'unhide' it? Thanks for help, Gail

For Windows, open Tools/Options/Advanced/General/Config. editor, or click the 3-bar icon at the upper right, Options/Options/Advanced/General/Config. editor, right-click the preference layout.css.devPixelsPerPx, Modify, and enter a value of 1.20 or 1.25 or 1.5 or 2.0...

Thanks so much! The new fix works and no need for the popular add-in that doesn't work with the latest release of TB.

Working off of the 'Windows' solution above --- I've figured out how to do it on the 'Mac' 1) Thunderbird Column to "Preferences" 2) Left column to "Advanced" 3) Bottom right - click on the 'config' button 4) Okay the warning 5) Search or scroll down to "layout.css.devPixelsPerPx" 6) On my computer, I found a good value was 1.4. The default was "-1.0". No matter the damn font was so small. Hope this helps....

As a web developer, extremely comfortable with CSS, I find it inexplicable that *any* application would expect the user to dig into the CSS file. That's the job of the programmer. What kind of programmer would decide the place to put the font configuration argument was in the CSS?

Unfortunately, this is typical with Mozilla: every "upgrade" is a downgrade in some important aspect of the program. Mozilla will not get any more donations from me until it takes back Thunderbird & fixes the many mistakes its volunteer programs have made.

I had the same issue. Another contributor posted the solution for Thunderbird version 68.5.0 for MS-Windows 10, and it worked perfectly for me as follows:

1. From the Tools menu, select Options. 2. Select the General tab, if not already selected. 3. Click Advanced from the left frame. 4. Scroll-down the page to the Advanced Configuration section. 5. Click Config Editor.... The about:config dialog box is displayed. 6. Click I accept the risk!. 7. In the Search text box, enter layout.css.devPixelsPerPx, and then press enter to display this Preference in the results section. Ensure that the correct Preference Name, layout.css.devPixelsPerPx, is displayed in the Preference Name column. 8. Double-click the currently displayed value in the Value column. The Enter string value dialog box is displayed. In my case, it was the default font size of 1.5 pixel. Experiment with changing the numbers such as 1.75, 1.8, 1.90, 2.0 (which was too big). For me, 1.75 was the perfect font size. Next, click OK. 9. Close the about:config dialog box, and then re-start Thunderbird.

Had same problem on my Windows 10 computer. This solution was a perfect fix. Thanks for sharing this!

The point isn't that you can go into a file & change some parameters. The point is that Mozilla forces you to do that. I'm a programmer & can easily make those changes, but not everyone is comfortable doing this. And why on earth should such a common change as font size be so difficult? Why isn't there an option to change the size, just like there's an option to change the font or the color? Why shouldn't you have to go into this file and enter 'Arial' or 'Century Gothic' for fonts? That makes as much sense as entering font sizes.

This is just mozilla being lazy. There must be a better email program than Thunderbird because this is ridiculous.