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Not enough, Mozilla

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Saying "you can turn off the AI" is NOT enough, Mozilla. Nothing is ever "turned off" unless it's completely removed. This is Microsoft's playbook BS; "but you can turn it off", but for some reason the system is always using a metric ton of memory, lagging and whatnot. You, of all companies, should know this and be better than that. Nothing good is ever force-installed and impossible to remove. Unless you all make it installed completely separately so people like me, who are a significant part, if not most of your user base, can not install it, nothing short of a full renunciation of the CEO will suffice to make we trust you again.

"Internet for People, not profit" is seeming more and more like blatant false advertising every day.

Saying "you can turn off the AI" is '''NOT''' enough, Mozilla. Nothing is ever "turned off" unless it's completely removed. This is Microsoft's playbook BS; "but you can turn it off", but for some reason the system is always using a metric ton of memory, lagging and whatnot. You, of all companies, should know this and be better than that. Nothing good is ever force-installed and impossible to remove. Unless you all make it installed completely separately so people like me, who are a significant part, if not most of your user base, can not install it, nothing short of a full renunciation of the CEO will suffice to make we trust you again. "Internet for People, not profit" is seeming more and more like blatant false advertising every day.

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Thank you for your feedback, we really do appreciate it

Please be assured that Firefox will always remain a browser built around user control. That includes AI with increased user controls being made available in the first quarter of 2026. Choice matters and demonstrating our commitment to choice is how we build and maintain trust.

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Look, I really don't wanna be disrespectful, but come on... This is the exact same PR-Speak BS every single big tech you all claim to be against use. You literally just copied and pasted the exact same pre-med response on both my issues. Are you even a human or are you just robot responding to every issue open the same thing? Either you all start showing some actual respect and listening to your users, of this is the final straw. "User controls" mean absolutely nothing. Either make this malware an extension installed separately, or bye Firefox.

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Did someone tell you that "you can turn off the AI"? This is false. AI is already off by default, you don't have to do anything. It hasn't been force installed.

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TyDraniu disse

Did someone tell you that "you can turn off the AI"? This is false. AI is already off by default, you don't have to do anything. It hasn't been force installed.

Nothing is ever "turned off" unless it's completely uninstalled. Saying BS like "it's opt-in" or "you can turn it off" is just that: PR-Talk BS; it means absolutely nothing. It's either not installed, or it's on.

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I am very much a human, like many of the contributors here trying to help.

The AI backed functionality in Firefox does not do anything when it is turned off and in a number of cases the installation and uninstallation is in the hands of the user. We give you the choice to remove the privacy preserving local models of you do not wish to use them. We give you the choice to not use a feature or turn it off if you do not wish to use it.

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@AIisCancer, What you're saying doesn't have any sense.

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TyDraniu disse

@AIisCancer, What you're saying doesn't have any sense.

Yes, it does. If it can't be uninstalled, then it must mean the software can't function with it turned off. If the software could actually function with it turned off, it should be possible to uninstall it too; so if it can't be uninstalled, it means the software can't function with it off, which means it isn't off. And if the software can, indeed, function with the thing turned off and there isn't an option to uninstall it, then it's just plain malicious (you know, the first part of the word "malware"?). There's no scenario in which something is truly off whilst being impossible to uninstall.

I can't be clearer than that. The blindest person is the one who doesn't want to see.

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Paul disse

I am very much a human, like many of the contributors here trying to help. The AI backed functionality in Firefox does not do anything when it is turned off and in a number of cases the installation and uninstallation is in the hands of the user. We give you the choice to remove the privacy preserving local models of you do not wish to use them. We give you the choice to not use a feature or turn it off if you do not wish to use it.
Great. So I can assume it will not be part of the browser itself and will indeed be installed separately? Because simply changing a bool variable to false in the about:config page won't be enough; I can't trust it is actually changing anything. That's what
the installation and uninstallation is in the hands of the user.
means. If that's the case, well... the lesser of two evils, I guess. Otherwise, again, bool variables that might as well not be used for anything aren't enough.

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It may just reside in the background not doing anything - much like an AI feature in Firefox if it is not enabled.

If you do have a support issue, please can you clarify what it is otherwise we can look to close off this thread.

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Paul said

It may just reside in the background not doing anything - much like an AI feature in Firefox if it is not enabled. If you do have a support issue, please can you clarify what it is otherwise we can look to close off this thread.

Yeah, the thing is: I don't trust that to be the case and I ""can't"" trust that to be the case. Mozilla, of all companies, should understand this. Besides, I don't want this to even be on my disk or on RAM (I mean, come on... If it's not running, why would it even be on RAM...). As I said, if the browser could function without it, but it's impossible to uninstall, then it is necessarily malicious. And if it's malicious, it's always fair to assume it's running.

I don't have any other issues. I just wanted to make it very clear that if the new CEO really wanted to make a company the people could trust, this is the very opposite of that; a complete betrayal of every single principle this company once said it had.

You can close the thread now if you want.