Are thunderbird's saved logins the same logins Yahoo recognizes and accepts? Tbird's look like nothing I ever saw
I'm trying to resolve password issues. I fear that I might lose access in T-bird as I have through my browser.
T-Bird presently works to receive e-mail at two addresses: [redacted]@pacbell.net and at [redacted]@pacbell.net. It won't let me send email from [redacted]@pacbell.net.
None of my "they did work in the past" passwords allow me to log in with yahoo or AT&T
I want to use the same p- words with t-bird and yahoo and AT&T
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This is turning into one of those things where the more you talk about it the more confusing it gets! ;) I think I get what your asking, but to reiterate...
- Say, you've been using Thunderbird without incident for some time.
- You change your password with your email provider, who happens to use OAuth2 for authentication, as does Yahoo and AT&T;
- I BELIEVE (but I'm not in a position to test it right now) that if you don't do anything to Thunderbird, you will be prompted to re-authenticate with your new password, at which time it will set a new token amongst your Saved Passwords.
- If you're NOT prompted to re-authenticate, and authentication fails, make sure cookies are enabled in Thunderbird, delete any existing cookies in Thunderbird for that provider, and delete any existing entries for that email address in Saved Passwords. Then quit and restart Thunderbird and you should be prompted to authenticate.
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The answer is, "No." Yahoo, Gmail, and many other email providers authenticate you using OAuth2. What happens is when Thunderbird first contacts Yahoo to send or receive email, it will ask for your Yahoo password. It will then set what's known as a "token" in your Saved Passwords, which appears as a seemingly-arbitrary string of characters and is NOT your actual password. The token indicates that you have been verified as you on that particular machine with your correct password. This is considered to be far more secure than the old plain password authentication method.
According to this article, AT&T also uses OAuth, but I have no personal experience with it:
https://www.att.com/support/article/email-support/KM1240462/
Here's an article that describes OAuth2 in good detail:
In addition to Thunderbird on my laptop I would like to use a browser on other computers to get my email. It would seem that to do that I will need to change/reset my AT&T/Yahoo password. I imagine I would need to make the same changes in Thunderbird. Is that correct?
No. You use your regular password everywhere, both with webmail AND in Thunderbird, when prompted. The difference is that Thunderbird won't store your password on your computer, but instead it will store a record (the token) of having authenticated you. Remember that the token is not a password, per se, and you will never need to know it.
But if you DO decide to change your password on AT&T or Yahoo, you may need to delete the tokens saved in Thunderbird's Saved Passwords, after which you will be prompted to authenticate anew... with your new password. Once you're authenticated, a brand new token will be set.
Do I have a correct understanding?
After I change/reset my password at AT&T/Yahoo when I use Thunder bird for the first time afterward Thunderbird will fail to get access to my email and will prompt me for the new password.
Subsequently Thunderbird will function as before?
John
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This is turning into one of those things where the more you talk about it the more confusing it gets! ;) I think I get what your asking, but to reiterate...
- Say, you've been using Thunderbird without incident for some time.
- You change your password with your email provider, who happens to use OAuth2 for authentication, as does Yahoo and AT&T;
- I BELIEVE (but I'm not in a position to test it right now) that if you don't do anything to Thunderbird, you will be prompted to re-authenticate with your new password, at which time it will set a new token amongst your Saved Passwords.
- If you're NOT prompted to re-authenticate, and authentication fails, make sure cookies are enabled in Thunderbird, delete any existing cookies in Thunderbird for that provider, and delete any existing entries for that email address in Saved Passwords. Then quit and restart Thunderbird and you should be prompted to authenticate.
Thanks Lin, Think you have covered all of it. Now I must act and see what developes. John
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