
Traveling to NY from Israel - what settings need to be changed?
I'll be staying with a friend whose ISP is Spectrum. Spectrum claims they have no idea what settings I need to change in Thunderbird in order to go through them to get to my ISP's mail servers. I'm assuming that there ARE settings that have to be changed because a few years ago, when staying with different friends in NY, I had to call their ISP (Verizon) to find out what needed to be changed in Outlook Express' settings. I no longer recall which ones.
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sfhowes, everything works perfectly. I'm really, really grateful.
Thank you so much!
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Thank you for your reply.
My ISP is 012 (012.net.il).
POP server Connection security is STARTTLS, port 110.
Outgoing server uses port 25, Authentication method is Normal password.
I think I now remember one of the Outlook Express settings issues that I had a few years ago. In order for me to connect with Spectrum, I have to provide my friend's username and password. At the same time, there needs to be a way to provide my own username and password to 012. How is that done?
Thank you again. I really appreciate your slogging through 012's Website, given that it's in Hebrew.
I've added my Yahoo mail account to Thunderbird, but I'm at an impasse. If I select IMAP, will my 012 messages go into my Yahoo folder or will they get downloaded to Thunderbird?
And I repeat my earlier question: Since I'll be connecting through Spectrum, where do I specify my friend's username and password?
I'm aware that I can use 012's Webmail portal, but Thunderbird's way more convenient.
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I'll look at these links over the weekend and post a reply. Thank you!
I unexpectedly had a chance to check out the links you provided earlier than I anticipated. They are not what I want. If I go through Yahoo, which is a Webmail portal, then I can just as well go directly to 012's Webmail portal. What I want is the convenience of Thunderbird. I know that there should be a way to make it work, since I was able to use Outlook Express to access my 012 mail a few years ago.
Ah! Now I understand.
My initial reaction was that I'd have to wait until I reach NY (on Dec. 24th) to fiddle around with all this. Then it occurred to me that if the setup you're suggesting doesn't cause a significant delay in sending and receiving mail, I could try setting it all up right now.
So . . . will there be a noticeable delay?
I'll try to set things up over the next few days. I'll either get back to you with setup questions or with good news.
Thanks again.
Step 1 was to set up my Yahoo account in TB. At th end of setup, it tries to verify the password, and can't. It displays a message questioning if the username or password is wrong.
Is TB considered a less-secure app?
Yes. Talk about the teapot calling the kettle black!
I set up 012 as an account at Yahoo. I then changed 012's configuration in TB to go through Yahoo's imap server. I received the following message:
An error occurred with the POP3 mail server. Mail server imap.mail.yahoo.com (I didn't specify this as a link - it was done automatically) responded:
That's it. There was nothing after the colon.
Edit: I just realized that my setup of 012 at Yahoo was incomplete. That's because I'm not seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing. One example: When I move my mouse onto the Settings icon, I don't see Settings. All I see is:
Account Info
Help
Suggestions
I've written Yahoo.
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No, I set it up correctly in TB. TB is collecting mail from Yahoo. My problem is that I can't get my 012 mail in TB through Yahoo, and that's undoubtedly because I wasn't given the opportunity to input all the information at Yahoo.
At this point, it's best to wait for a reply from Yahoo.
A Yahoo tech explained that the problem was happening because I was using Basic Mail. The solution was to switch to New Mail and I'd be able to create a new mail account. I switched, but I still wasn't seeing what I was supposed to be seeing. Then I stumbled onto this page: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/SLN15953.html?impressions=true
Note what it says about it no longer being possible to create new extra e-mail addresses.
Or do they mean something else?
I'm waiting for a new reply from Yahoo.
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As I wrote earlier, I can't follow the instructions in that link. It says to mouse over the Settings icon and then click on Settings. Settings isn't one of the options I see. See 5 posts up.
Edit: Since we're now on p. 2, let me be more specific. See my post of 4:41 a.m. on the 10th.
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There's something else going on. After I switched to New Mail, I didn't see what I was supposed to, but I did eventually get to Add a Mailbox. However, the choices were Yahoo Google Outlook.com AOL and other. When I clicked on other, I got a message saying that new providers will be coming soon. There was no opportunity to input my own provider. The Yahoo tech confirmed that those 4 are the only choices at this point.
Apparently, when I somehow was able to partially enter the info for 012, that became an additional send-only address. That's what I found by following the steps in the link you provided in your last post.
Now, how do I set up 012 at Yahoo to receive my 012 e-mail?
And a big thank you for staying with this and continuing to guide me.
My original request specified that I wanted to access 012's servers.
As I wrote earlier, I'm not seeing what the instructions at the link you gave say I should.
1) Mousing over the Settings icon yields nothing. I have to click on it.
2) When I do click on it, there's no Settings option. See image.
3) When I click on More Settings, Mailboxes, Add mailbox, The only options, as I've written before, are Yahoo, Google, Outlook.com AOL other. Clicking on other produces the messages that more providers are coming soon. No opportunity to input information for 012.
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Are you saying that if I leave my incoming mail settings just as they are, TB will still connect to 012's POP server when I'm in NY and retrieve my mail?
As for outgoing mail, all I have to do is change the TB SMTP setting to Yahoo's SMTP server and (now that I have 012 set up at Yahoo as a send only address) mail that I send out from TB in NY will get sent showing my 012 address?
I did add the Yahoo account to TB, but - and it appears that I still haven't completely understood - I thought that that wasn't necessary. As I just wrote, I thought all I need to do is change the 012 SMTP server to the Yahoo SMTP server.
If I'm in NY connected to Spectrum and I send through a Yahoo account set up in TB, how will Yahoo know to treat it as 012 mail?
I changed the 012 SMTP server to Yahoo's. This is the message I got when I tried to send:
An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable. Please verify that your email address is correct in your account settings and try again.
Edit: Although I thought it was ridiculous, I changed my username in TB for the SMTP server from myusername to myusername@yahoo.com, and it turns out that that was indeed the problem.
Bottom line: Outgoing mail works. Since I have no way of connecting to another ISP while I'm home, I'll have to wait until I'm in NY to make sure that I can retrieve my incoming mail from 012. I'll let you know in about a week. In the meantime, again, my deep thanks.
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sfhowes, everything works perfectly. I'm really, really grateful.
Thank you so much!
This is a new question but I'm posting it here because it's a(n unrelated) continuation of this thread. I brought along my profile folder because I wanted to replace the profile folder on whatever computer I'd be using and would be installing TB on. That way, just before I fly back home, I could once again save my profile folder to my flash drive and replace the old profile folder on my home computer so that no mail would be missing. (Please tell me that was clear.)
When I say that I brought along my profile folder, there actually was a glitch. It refused to copy Trash to my flash drive claiming there wasn't enough room, even though the file was some 5GB and free space on the flas drive was over 7GB. This was just before I left for the airport, so I had no time to try an alternative, such as uploading Trash to a file sharing service from which I could retrieve it upon arriving here.
However, after I installed TB and replaced the profile folder, I was pleasantly surprised to see that the messages in Trash were there. It was only today, 2 weeks later, that I actually needed one of those messages, and discovered that all the Trash folder contains are the subjects, the correspondents and the dates. The bodies of the messages are not there.
So, here's my question. When I return home, I don't want to replace the Trash folder, but I do want to add the messages I deleted while here to the Trash folder on my home computer. Is there a way to do that?
If not, the only alternative I can see is to move all the new Trash messages back to Inbox and then delete them when I've returned and replaced the profile folder on my home computer. (Is anyone following this?!)