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Win 10 updated 21.09.14 or 15: TBird 78.14.0 won't load my profile

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Got up this morning for my first day of radiation & chemo therapy for cancer re-currance, only to find *&%$( M$ had updated W10, despite YEARS of trying to get it to stop, and TBird wanted to set up a new eMail acct.

I tried Profile Mgr, chose my ONLY profile, but still got the Setup New Acct popup

The profile seems to load, since 'about:profiles' knows it's the default, has the path correct, and says in big bold fonts:

Profile: GeoD

This is the profile in use and it cannot be deleted.

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I am disabled from brain trauma, and struggle to communicate verbally; my life IS integrated w- eMail and the online portal to SOME of my doctors.

I can't find anything about this issue. I seldom have a problem with software that ISN'T the first incident, so I'm not surprised.

Before the brain trauma, I was an independent Network Installer/Admin and server/workstation manufacturer, so I have background, but the TBI wiped the HW portion of it out, and the SW portion is out of practice, but functions.

Any ideas, suggestions?

The strange part is after the first attempt to open TBird failed, I re-booted the OS. During the 1st attempt, I had opened Waterfox, my preferred browser, via a Quick Launch icon w- no issues.

After the reboot, I tried TBird, it did the same thing, but the Quick Launch icon for Waterfox was now a generic white sheet of paper icon. Clicking on it gets me a blue orbiting circle, and a partial OS hang.

Right clicking to get to Properties gets me a blue orbiter.

If I open the Quick Launch folder, for direct access, File Explorer takes 2+ minutes to fully load, then hangs the system, starting a cascade to the Task Bar disappearing, ending with an OS hang.

After a subsequent re-boot, I was looking for a file, or something that prompted a default browser launch when I double clicked on it, and up came WaterFox, so it is still on the drive, and functioning. I used it to make a new desktop icon, and it works fine, but I still can't get the new icon instance moved to the Quick Launch bar.

One more tidbit, which is likely relevant in some $%*&&^% M$ perverted way: Two Win 10 updates ago, my window color scheme changed to less options of contrasting colors in different portions of the universal window parts, and my screen was unreadable. I fought with it for a couple weeks, two different times, never resolved it, but got something somewhat readable, if I keep the vertical angle of my laptop screen just right. With that I surrendered; I have other things to do in life than fix M$ untested dog food.

This problem led me to Waterfox. It is the only completely readable app window, and was a suggestion for a workaround to the Win10 issue. It seems to ignore whatever is mucking up the universal windows. (But isn't that WHY it exists?)

Don't have a clue if the three are connected, but there's a certain stench to it, reminding me of other M$ stenches, that all of this started with someone's opinion of how we should all config our color schemes, that 'great' dog food introduced a problem, which led to a fix, with side effects, then another fix for those side effects, which introduced further side effects, and here I sit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated; this will give some of you something meaty to chew on... LOL


Thanks,

GeoD

Got up this morning for my first day of radiation & chemo therapy for cancer re-currance, only to find *&%$( M$ had updated W10, despite YEARS of trying to get it to stop, and TBird wanted to set up a new eMail acct. I tried Profile Mgr, chose my ONLY profile, but still got the Setup New Acct popup The profile ''seems'' to load, since 'about:profiles' knows it's the default, has the path correct, and says in big bold fonts: Profile: GeoD This is the profile in use and it cannot be deleted. === I am disabled from brain trauma, and struggle to communicate verbally; my life IS integrated w- eMail and the online portal to SOME of my doctors. I can't find anything about this issue. I seldom have a problem with software that ISN'T the first incident, so I'm not surprised. Before the brain trauma, I was an independent Network Installer/Admin and server/workstation manufacturer, so I have background, but the TBI wiped the HW portion of it out, and the SW portion is out of practice, but functions. Any ideas, suggestions? The strange part is after the first attempt to open TBird failed, I re-booted the OS. During the 1st attempt, I had opened Waterfox, my preferred browser, via a Quick Launch icon w- no issues. After the reboot, I tried TBird, it did the same thing, but the Quick Launch icon for Waterfox was now a generic white sheet of paper icon. Clicking on it gets me a blue orbiting circle, and a partial OS hang. Right clicking to get to Properties gets me a blue orbiter. If I open the Quick Launch folder, for direct access, File Explorer takes 2+ minutes to fully load, then hangs the system, starting a cascade to the Task Bar disappearing, ending with an OS hang. After a subsequent re-boot, I was looking for a file, or something that prompted a default browser launch when I double clicked on it, and up came WaterFox, so it is still on the drive, and functioning. I used it to make a new desktop icon, and it works fine, but I still can't get the new icon instance moved to the Quick Launch bar. One more tidbit, which is likely relevant in some $%*&&^% M$ perverted way: Two Win 10 updates ago, my window color scheme changed to less options of contrasting colors in different portions of the universal window parts, and my screen was unreadable. I fought with it for a couple weeks, two different times, never resolved it, but got something somewhat readable, if I keep the vertical angle of my laptop screen just right. With that I surrendered; I have other things to do in life than fix M$ untested dog food. This problem led me to Waterfox. It is the only completely readable app window, and was a suggestion for a workaround to the Win10 issue. It seems to ignore whatever is mucking up the universal windows. (But isn't that WHY it exists?) Don't have a clue if the three are connected, but there's a certain stench to it, reminding me of other M$ stenches, that all of this started with someone's opinion of how we should all config our color schemes, that 'great' dog food introduced a problem, which led to a fix, with side effects, then another fix for those side effects, which introduced further side effects, and here I sit. Any help would be greatly appreciated; this will give some of you something meaty to chew on... LOL Thanks, GeoD

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Replacing the prefs file usually works best if it can be replaced by a fairly recent prefs-1.js or prefs-2.js or.....prefs-N.js that's already in the profile folder. Using a 5-year old version from a backup probably won't work. In this case, it's probably faster and more effective to create a new profile, add the accounts, and transfer address books and local mail from the old profile to the new. There are plenty of topics on the forum explaining transfers. Create and manage profiles from Help/More Troubleshooting, about:profiles.

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Check in thunderbird roaming folder what your profile is or profiles are. Keep the correct one and delete the other. Start thunderbird and choose the profile.

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Hi Lampros,

Thanks for the reply, and suggestion.

My T-Bird profile is located on an individual partition/drive labeled System, in a folder called Thunderbird.Profile. I have one profile in there, GeoD.

The 'roaming' folder you're referring to, I think is this path:

C:\Users\Geo\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles

This folder is empty.

In my Crash Reports folder, the Last Crash is dated 07/08/21. There are two folders with yesterday's date, 09/15/21, they are both empty.

The Events folder is dated 06/12/16, and is empty.

From it's perspective, it seems T-Bird doesn't think anything is wrong, except for eMail setup, configuration, and it is not seeing any of my 3 email address' eMail folders, or the Local Folders I have created.

All three addresses have folders in the Mail folder, all the appropriate files, and sub-directory folders and files are present and have file size, so there's data in them.

Is there a file with the eMail configuration in it, like there is for so many other aspects of Mozilla apps, (my brain damaged memory can't think of any of the names, but they are all basically plain text files, ala '.ini' files.

Could it be the email config file, is corrupt or missing.

W10 update has a rep for doing all kinds of deleting.

Remember when W10 was being promoted, pre-launch, and the press releases and articles were talking about background updating, and how intelligent it would be. It would sense our open programs, graciously shut them down, AFTER saving our precious data, then reopen the apps, and reload our data, after the update? Remember those lies?

This time, for the first time, ever, I didn't have a completely empty desk top; I had 3 instances of Paint open, with the 3 graphic images of screen caps I had open, before the update, loaded in Paint.

They're making PROGRESS! Maybe by W10.year 2550 they figured out how to write effing script files.

They can't even manage to save files & gracefully close their own damn products. I have 6 Excel spreadsheets of 3-5 pages each, which are a custom catalog I need to use to order products from the massive industrial company my wife works for, because I get overwhelmed with 3+ million products. I transcribe the type of products I am interested in with their specs, and prices, so I get my brain to compare and contrast, and make good buying decisions. It is a massive amount of work.

Anytime I forget to my backup copies of each workbook, and leave them open on my desktop, and W10 updates, it closes Excel, and corrupts the files, causing me hours of work, if I don't have a good backup.

I also desperately need to custom configure my desktop, folders, and such, to make Windows work for me, because of my brain injury. Like we used to be able to do in XP, and previously. Remember?

Anything I do is completely wiped out after an update, even if I use 3rd party software. I used to be a super power user, thousands of OS and application macros I'd developed. But it was all in an environment my brain could function in.

W10 updates has destroyed all of it; I'm barely above any other dottering 68 year old from before the computer era.

To say I loathe MS is THE understatement of the 21st & 20th centuries. Give me 15 minutes in front of the current CEO, and it would change.

I did it with Balmer at the Portland launch of Small Business Server, and an open mike for questions. The outcome within a few years was the Microsoft Dealers Program. It didn't hurt there were 1500+ other independent computers guys cheering me on, while I went after him for how crapping MS treated us. That was in the days of $100 PER Win NT question.

GeoD

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When TB loses track of the profile, it starts up like a new installation. Sometimes this can be corrected by looking at the prefs.js file and replacing it with a backup or older version in the current profile:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1324156

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Thanks, now we're getting to what may well be wrong. I'll read the article you linked, and check the prefs.js, look for a backup, etc. and post if it solves the issue.

GeoD

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How old of back can I replace the current prefs.js with.

I have one from June 2016, in a profilename.old I saved back then for some reason, or 'nother. Likely a migration when I bought this laptop, yeah, right timing.

It's 4-5 times as big, will it just ignore all the obsolete, outdated stuff. I mean, from the comment header, it looks like the comment notation is now: / comment / comment / comment / comment / comment

and it used to be:

/* comment

  • comment
  • comment
  • comment
  • /

Since the brain injury, I'm not a cavalier about 'go for it', cause my thinking is always complete, 'nor good. Have logic and deductive reasoning malfunction.

My immediate concern would be scrambling my eMail data files, for some reason... I guess I can back them up, and go for it.

"We'll see if she'll take 'er, Cap'n" lol

GeoD

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I copied my profile, but got error(s) on the inbox file. I have three email accounts geo.den geo.anc acc.inf

I opened the inbox from geo.den in my text editor, then saved it in the profile copy folder, thinking I'd fooled it. FIle's size same.

Opened TB with prefs.js from 2016.

I had my three email accounts from about, but the first two had empty Inboxes and no sub-folders. The third had eMails, but no sub-folders.

I scrolled down, and found my Local Folders, and an unidentified Inbox, with all the sub-folders, but I don't recall if it had eMails in the Inbox. It was the only Inbox which should have old emails in it.

I must have got two (three?) error messages for 'Inbox' failing to copying, but thought it was only one instance. I could deal with that by going back and doing the Edit Pad Pro trick, of Save As.

But, when I tried to select all the sub-folders under the Inbox which was down below, it only copying one folder, and none of it's subs. Do I have to copy all the damn sub-folders, there's dozens, and dozens. Plus where might the several 100 inbox emails be?

Any clues?

Seems like replacing the prefs.js file got TB to know it had email accts configured, but didn't see the data in them.

Import?

Thanks,

GeoD

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Replacing the prefs file usually works best if it can be replaced by a fairly recent prefs-1.js or prefs-2.js or.....prefs-N.js that's already in the profile folder. Using a 5-year old version from a backup probably won't work. In this case, it's probably faster and more effective to create a new profile, add the accounts, and transfer address books and local mail from the old profile to the new. There are plenty of topics on the forum explaining transfers. Create and manage profiles from Help/More Troubleshooting, about:profiles.