That all caps makes my eyes bleed. Way to encourage someone to volunteer their time for you. ''<p>p.socha [[#question-1581763|said]]</p>'' <blockquote>SIMPLIFY THUNDERBIRD IT IS EXCESSIVLY COMPLEX. I CANNOT EVEN SEE HOW TO MOVE MESSAGES FROM THE INBOX TO THE RELEVANT FOLDER IN MY LIST. </blockquote> Have you tried dragging the message with your mouse? It works for me. Sure, there are lots of other ways, but you specifically specified simple. <blockquote> I PERSONALLY BELIEVE FIREFOX AND THUNDERBIRD ARE OVERCOMPLEX AND NEED SIMPLIFIED. </blockquote> There is an ideas and feedback forum specifically for that sort of thing. It has no place in the support forum. I will endeavor to help you with using the software. I have no interest in your opinions on how intuitive it is or how you desire a simplified version. See https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/idb-p/ideas <blockquote> SIMPLES. WHY CANT I COPY AND PASTE THE VERSION NUMBER. BLOODY ARESHOLES </blockquote copy from where?? It is quite simple to copy from the troubleshooting information, but I find is is quicker and easier to just type the three digits on the keyboard from the help> about dialog. I have versions 140 and 152 installed today. <blockquote> . AS I SAID IT IS BLOODY OVERCOMPLEX. AT THIS POINT I AM CONSIDERING GIVING UP ON WHAT IS CLEARLY AN OVERCOMPLEX PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK GOOD EITHER </blockquote> Have you tried a theme if you do not find it visually appealing. There are several preinstalled in the addon and theme manager and there are others available for download. See https://addons.thunderbird.net/En-US/thunderbird/static-themes/ and https://addons.thunderbird.net/En-US/thunderbird/search/?q=theme&appver=999.0&cat=1%2C0 You can also vary the layout of the interface. See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-thunderbird-layout and https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/appearance-panel-layout-message-list-card-view-tab and https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/message-list-columns Perhaps instead of venting read some of the documentation and modify it using that complexity you abhor to make it your own. <blockquote> AND THERE IS NO OFFICIAL SUPPORT </blockquote> You posted this in the support forum. So yes there is an official support. If you are looking for someone paid to do it for you. No, there is none of that here. <blockquote> SO WILL HAVE TO LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATIVE. </blockquote> That is your prerogative. None of the folk in these support forums are paid employees so the usual passive aggressive "I will go somewhere else" statements really have no currency. I personally do not care what mail client you use of even if you use one. I am prepared to try and assist you, but I have no vested interest either way and am just as capable of advising on other mail clients as I am with Thunderbird. <blockquote> COMPLETE WASTE OF SPACE TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH COMES TO MIND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE </blockquote> As you wish. I have no idea what you are talking about, but as it does not appear to be germane to the topic it does not matter.