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Firefox 45 Release Notes / Issues / Discussions

  1. Firefox 45 is scheduled to be released at 2016-03-08

    release notes: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/45.0/releasenotes/ fixed security issues: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/#firefox45

    some changes that seem relevant to sumo are:

    • the tab groups feature (aka "panorama") is removed from firefox: this is pretty well covered in our kb article on the subject Tab Groups feature discontinued, including some alternatives. More background on this change can be found at the blog post at http://www.gijsk.com/blog/2016/02/tab-groups-removal/
    • a new synced tabs-button placed in the menu by default makes it easier to access synced tabs and they are no longer hidden away in the history menu. in addition those synced tabs will also be offered as a suggestion in the address bar - Bug 1201331/Bug 1210616
    • the globe icon has been removed as a site indicator for non-secure pages - now there is an info button which opens the control center and is present on http & https sites as well - Bug 1206244
    • firefox hello seems to shift its focus to website sharing/co-browsing and away from being a mere communication tool. see the blog post at https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/01/27/help-test-firefox-hello-beta/ and the corresponding bug - Bug 1209713
    • firefox hello will also ship as a contained system addon starting with firefox 45 as part of the "go faster" initiative, in order to receive updates independent from firefox releases. the addon will show up in about:support data, but won't be an entry within the addons manager as system addons are not intended to be switched off by users. its .xpi will be placed in the firefox installation folder under \browser\features; it is probably just going to be re-downloaded with the next firefox update ping in case a user manually deletes it - Bug 1223573

    firefox 45 will also form the basis for the next ESR branch (extended support release) geared towards enterprise users, which will be supplied with security and stability updates well into 2017: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/

    in addition there will be a slight move away from the fixed 6-week release schedule in order to better accommodate holidays and other mozilla-specific events. the new release dates for 2016 got published at https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/02/04/update-on-2016-firefox-release-schedule/

    please feel free to add to the thread as new things become known or in case there are particular trends in reported problems on the forums :-)

    Firefox 45 is scheduled to be released at 2016-03-08 release notes: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/45.0/releasenotes/ fixed security issues: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/#firefox45 some changes that seem relevant to sumo are: * the '''tab groups''' feature (aka "panorama") is '''removed '''from firefox: this is pretty well covered in our kb article on the subject [[Discontinuing the Tab Groups feature]], including some alternatives. More background on this change can be found at the blog post at http://www.gijsk.com/blog/2016/02/tab-groups-removal/ * a new '''synced tabs'''-button placed in the menu by default makes it easier to access synced tabs and they are no longer hidden away in the history menu. in addition those synced tabs will also be offered as a suggestion in the address bar - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201331 Bug 1201331]/[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210616 Bug 1210616] * the globe icon has been removed as a site indicator for non-secure pages - now there is an''' info button''' which opens the [[Control Center - manage site privacy and security controls|control center]] and is present on http & https sites as well - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1206244 Bug 1206244] * firefox hello seems to shift its focus to '''website sharing/co-browsing''' and away from being a mere communication tool. see the blog post at https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/01/27/help-test-firefox-hello-beta/ and the corresponding bug - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209713 Bug 1209713] *firefox hello will also ship as a contained system addon starting with firefox 45 as part of the "'''[http://hearsum.ca/blog/going-faster-with-balrog.html go faster]'''" initiative, in order to receive updates independent from firefox releases. the addon will show up in about:support data, but won't be an entry within the addons manager as system addons are not intended to be switched off by users. its .xpi will be placed in the firefox installation folder under \browser\features; it is probably just going to be re-downloaded with the next firefox update ping in case a user manually deletes it - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223573 Bug 1223573] firefox 45 will also form the basis for the next ESR branch (extended support release) geared towards enterprise users, which will be supplied with security and stability updates well into 2017: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ in addition there will be a slight move away from the fixed 6-week release schedule in order to better accommodate holidays and other mozilla-specific events. the new release dates for 2016 got published at https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/02/04/update-on-2016-firefox-release-schedule/ please feel free to add to the thread as new things become known or in case there are particular trends in reported problems on the forums :-)

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  2. the about:permissions panel was removed in 45 as well - Bug 933917

    the '''about:permissions''' panel was removed in 45 as well - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933917 Bug 933917]
  3. Trusteer Rapport issues again. Lets hope they update their software soon. There is mention of contact with Trusteer and the possibility of considering blocklisting the software


    Update It is still being reported that there are problems. I also note for Fx45 a warning was even included in the Release Notes

    "Trusteer Rapport 
    is severely impacting the stability of Firefox"
    
    Trusteer Rapport issues again. Lets hope they update their software soon. There is mention of contact with Trusteer and the possibility of considering blocklisting the software * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254527#c3 Bug 1254527 - Firefox 45 crashes with Trusteer Rapport (MessagePump, ProcessNextNativeEvent signatures) #c3]) --------- Update It is still being reported that there are problems. I also note for Fx45 a warning was even included in the [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/45.0/releasenotes/ Release Notes] '''''"Trusteer Rapport''''' '''''is severely impacting the stability of Firefox'''''"

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  4. There is a bug copying from Firefox and pasting into Thunderbird: only plain text is pasted.

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254980

    https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1113486 https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1113511

    There is a bug copying from Firefox and pasting into Thunderbird: only plain text is pasted. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254980 https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1113486 https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1113511
  5. there is intent to stop supporting OS X 10.6-10.8 already starting with firefox 46 - affected users might be automatically transferred to the extended support release channel, so they will get security updates to them for the rest of the year at least. https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004019.html

    there is intent to stop supporting OS X 10.6-10.8 already starting with firefox 46 - affected users might be automatically transferred to the extended support release channel, so they will get security updates to them for the rest of the year at least. https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004019.html
  6. there are some issue building localised beta versions at the moment, so 46.0b1 is only pushed out to en-us users & that won't change over the weekend probably ...

    there are some issue building localised beta versions at the moment, so 46.0b1 is only pushed out to en-us users & that won't change over the weekend probably ...
  7. version 45.0.1 is being built and will probably be released in the next days. it contains a couple of smaller fixes:

    version 45.0.1 is being built and will probably be released in the next days. it contains a couple of smaller fixes: * various defects/regressions in the search & address bar - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254694 Bug 1254694], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1255605 Bug 1255605], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254503 Bug 1254503] * some flash games would no longer load in 45 when third-party cookies were disabled - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254856 Bug 1254856] * ibm inotes became non-functional in 45 - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1255139 Bug 1255139] * performance issue on youtube - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220502 bug 1220502] * not yet disclosed security issue
  8. There is something a little odd about the Clear Now button for web content cache on the Preferences page. Users are reporting they have to keep pressing it to reduce the cache content. In my limited test, clicking once was sufficient but the page did not update to show the new size on disk so it appeared that nothing had happened.

    Threads:

    Screenshot (not lightbox, direct link):

    There is something a little odd about the Clear Now button for web content cache on the Preferences page. Users are reporting they have to keep pressing it to reduce the cache content. In my limited test, clicking once was sufficient but the page did not update to show the new size on disk so it appeared that nothing had happened. Threads: * [https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1113961 Why Won't The Clear Cache Button Work?] * [https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1114674 can't clear cache] Screenshot (not lightbox, direct link): [https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/media/uploads/gallery/images/2016-03-18-17-51-08-24ea88.png <img src="https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/media/uploads/gallery/images/2016-03-18-17-51-08-24ea88.png" width="480">]
  9. An interesting post

    I think it concludes that with Fx45.0.1 you can not opt for using both FlashPlayer and OpenH264 without problems.

    ... On most sites, Flash and OpenH264 will coexist; but on sites like CNN, their video configuration fails if both plugins are active. What happens is that the site, which is set up to detect whether you have Shockwave Flash or OpenH264 plugin, sees both plugins and tries to load both players, which results in an error, or a player loading but an inability to play the video....

    If that is correct it would appear to be a serious bug ? And it may need documenting & or a bug filed.


    Update. Chosen solution jscher2000 said

    In response to a different thread, I created a user script which hides all of your plugins on selected sites (you can add CNN, for example). I don't know whether that would be more convenient than toggling Flash on and off. Html5 player on specific website
    An interesting post * ''Why do some videos not load after updating to Firefox 45.0.1?'' [/questions/1115141] I think it concludes that with Fx45.0.1 you can not opt for using both FlashPlayer and OpenH264 without problems. <blockquote>... On most sites, Flash and OpenH264 will coexist; but on sites like CNN, their video configuration fails if both plugins are active. What happens is that the site, which is set up to detect whether you have Shockwave Flash or OpenH264 plugin, sees both plugins and tries to load both players, which results in an error, or a player loading but an inability to play the video.... </blockquote> If that is correct it would appear to be a serious bug ? And it may need documenting & or a bug filed. ------------ Update. Chosen solution ''jscher2000 [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1115141#answer-860471 said]'' <blockquote> In response to a different thread, I created a user script which hides all of your plugins on selected sites (you can add CNN, for example). I don't know whether that would be more convenient than toggling Flash on and off. [/questions/1115681 Html5 player on specific website] </blockquote>

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  10. Tabs groups migration may not always go smoothly.

    I do not know if this was just an issue with tabs groups or with the migration but at least one user had a problem

    Tabs groups migration may not always go smoothly. I do not know if this was just an issue with tabs groups or with the migration but at least one user had a problem * Thread title: [/questions/1115476 Installed tab group add on weeks ago. No migration. Tabs gone. No back up created that I find. Are all my many Tab Groups lost? I thought this was to be seamles]
  11. I discovered a new serious issue that has been flying under the radar: Bug 1258515 - After Firefox update, Macbook won't shutdown

    I attempted to tag all the threads I could find about this using "macshutdown": https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?tagged=macshutdown&show=all

    If you guys could use that tag on any thread matching that issue that would help out. I'm still shocked Firefox can prevent OS X from shutting down.

    I discovered a new serious issue that has been flying under the radar: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1258515 Bug 1258515 - After Firefox update, Macbook won't shutdown] I attempted to tag all the threads I could find about this using "macshutdown": https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?tagged=macshutdown&show=all If you guys could use that tag on any thread matching that issue that would help out. I'm still shocked Firefox can prevent OS X from shutting down.
  12. Noah, i think this is another one :

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1115728

    Noah, i think this is another one : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1115728
  13. There are a lot of things that folks are having issues with I have no clue, but we may see alot of forum threads....

    There are a lot of things that folks are having issues with I have no clue, but we may see alot of forum threads....
  14. John99 said

    An interesting post I think it concludes that with Fx45.0.1 you can not opt for using both FlashPlayer and OpenH264 without problems.
    ... On most sites, Flash and OpenH264 will coexist; but on sites like CNN, their video configuration fails if both plugins are active. What happens is that the site, which is set up to detect whether you have Shockwave Flash or OpenH264 plugin, sees both plugins and tries to load both players, which results in an error, or a player loading but an inability to play the video....

    If that is correct it would appear to be a serious bug ? And it may need documenting & or a bug filed.

    Same issue playing an OGV file, will not load and will not even show error

    ''John99 [[#post-68776|said]]'' <blockquote> An interesting post * ''Why do some videos not load after updating to Firefox 45.0.1?'' [/questions/1115141] I think it concludes that with Fx45.0.1 you can not opt for using both FlashPlayer and OpenH264 without problems. <blockquote>... On most sites, Flash and OpenH264 will coexist; but on sites like CNN, their video configuration fails if both plugins are active. What happens is that the site, which is set up to detect whether you have Shockwave Flash or OpenH264 plugin, sees both plugins and tries to load both players, which results in an error, or a player loading but an inability to play the video.... </blockquote> If that is correct it would appear to be a serious bug ? And it may need documenting & or a bug filed. </blockquote> Same issue playing an OGV file, will not load and will not even show error
  15. philipp said

    there is intent to stop supporting OS X 10.6-10.8 already starting with firefox 46 - affected users might be automatically transferred to the extended support release channel, so they will get security updates to them for the rest of the year at least. https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004019.html

    Any update on this ?

    https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004058.html

    https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004060.html

    ''philipp [[#post-68640|said]]'' <blockquote> there is intent to stop supporting OS X 10.6-10.8 already starting with firefox 46 - affected users might be automatically transferred to the extended support release channel, so they will get security updates to them for the rest of the year at least. https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004019.html </blockquote> Any update on this ? https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004058.html https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2016-March/004060.html
  16. Can someone give me a simple explanation of how the release system works, and how to understand the milestones and where a fix lands. I presume additional builds go out on top of just the point releases

    For instance a top crash of Fx45

    That has a target milestone of Fx48 but apparently uplifted and marked fixed as far as Fx45 Release #c18 dd 2016-04-02 03:38:03 BST

    What I am failing to understand is that Fx45.0.1 was released March 16, 2016 so this change appears to be after the point release.

    I guess what I am tying to clarify is does the Release channel get additional builds in these circumstances, so will a clean install result in the end user getting an updated build. I presume that has updated with https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/026361c4c591

    This issue is still number 3 top crash in Fx 45.0.1

    Can someone give me a simple explanation of how the release system works, and how to understand the milestones and where a fix lands. I presume additional builds go out on top of just the point releases For instance a top crash of Fx45 * [https://bugzil.la/1258562 Bug 1258562 - Crash in dom::MediaSource::Duration] That has a target milestone of Fx48 but apparently uplifted and marked fixed as far as Fx45 Release [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1258562#c18 #c18] dd 2016-04-02 03:38:03 BST What I am failing to understand is that Fx45.0.1 was released ''[https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/45.0.1/releasenotes/ March 16, 2016]'' so this change appears to be after the point release. I guess what I am tying to clarify is does the Release channel get additional builds in these circumstances, so will a clean install result in the end user getting an updated build. I presume that has updated with https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/026361c4c591 This issue is still number 3 top crash in Fx 45.0.1
  17. @ideato, there are a few bugs open on the issue, however there was no progress since that mailing list entry. i'll try to ask around next week to see if there are any updates on this.

    @john99, the fix for this landed on the 45 release branch after 45.0.1 was built - so in case there is a 45.0.2 pushed out, that would contain this fix. it is not clear yet if this is going to happen though: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Channels/Meetings/2016-03-31#Schedule_Update

    @ideato, there are a few bugs open on the issue, however there was no progress since that mailing list entry. i'll try to ask around next week to see if there are any updates on this. @john99, the fix for this landed on the 45 release branch after 45.0.1 was built - so in case there is a 45.0.2 pushed out, that would contain this fix. it is not clear yet if this is going to happen though: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Channels/Meetings/2016-03-31#Schedule_Update
  18. a couple of updates from today's channel meeting:

    • firefox 45.0.2 is going to be released, likely tomorrow & containing a couple of smaller fixes [changelog]
    • this cycle will be extended from 6 to 7 weeks (the next one cut short of one week in return), so the new presumptive release date for firefox 46.0 looks to be april 26. this happened due to some infrastructure issues which prevented the release of 3 beta versions to a wider audience in order to gather more data on stability
    • the decision on deprecating mac os x 10.6-10.8 support is still in the air and not approved yet. it will be happening eventually, but not in 46 as it is too late in this cycle already to prepare the various necessary elements for this.
    a couple of updates from today's channel meeting: * '''firefox 45.0.2''' is going to be released, likely tomorrow & containing a couple of smaller fixes [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Channels/Meetings/2016-03-31#Schedule_Update changelog]] * this cycle will be extended from 6 to 7 weeks (the next one cut short of one week in return), so the new presumptive release date for '''firefox 46.0''' looks to be '''april 26'''. this happened due to some infrastructure issues which prevented the release of 3 beta versions to a wider audience in order to gather more data on stability * the decision on deprecating mac os x 10.6-10.8 support is still in the air and not approved yet. it will be happening eventually, but not in 46 as it is too late in this cycle already to prepare the various necessary elements for this.

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  19. just as a general heads-up: firefox accounts will soon start to send out a notification email to the account holder each time there is a new login to sync via the firefox account. maybe users will wonder what this is about and ask in the forums - in the first iteration those emails are "mandatory" & there is no way to turn them off from within the account's settings...

    just as a general heads-up: firefox accounts will soon start to send out a notification email to the account holder each time there is a new login to sync via the firefox account. maybe users will wonder what this is about and ask in the forums - in the first iteration those emails are "mandatory" & there is no way to turn them off from within the account's settings...
  20. a little bit later than expected, but 45.0.2 is now being pushed out via automatic updates.

    a little bit later than expected, but 45.0.2 is now being pushed out via automatic updates.
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