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This morning when I opened Thunderbird all entries that have other participants invited have disappeared. The entries without other participants are still there. I am not aware of an update. I can create new events and invite people. It seems the data is just gone somehow, and I somehow need it back.

OS: Ubuntu 22.04 Thunderbird: 91.11.0 (64-bit) How to reproduce: no idea

TBird 102.2.1 - just updated . . . and discovered that doing so caused several folder modifications I had just completed in the previous version disappeared. Really, really helpful . . . not.

Was in the midst of copying email files/messages to an external drive; 3/4 of the way through, in checking the "finished product" over there on the external, I discovered that -- regardless of what date the email had originally, TBird was changing all of the message dates to today's! That's really, really useful . . . I guess . . . in someone else's reality. My reality is that when I'm backing up email messages I have a reasonable expectation that they will each accurately reflect everything associated with the original(s).

So: How does one tell TBird to leave the original date(s) alone and copy the message(s) intact?

Guess it's now looking as if I will have to start this process all over -- and attempt to not seriously begrudge a program that makes such an unwarranted and unexpected change . . .

Thanks for any helpful information; appreciated.

I upgraded to TB 102.0 today. After I checked my settings and updated my plugins, it seemed to be working fine. However, later in the day I noticed a message that TB was downloading about 880 messages in my main inbox. Of course, there are not nearly that many new messages. I searched and did not notice any new emails in the listing. However, I found that two recent messages had been corrupted in some way. I enclosed an image. When I open the message, there is not even the normal header with the different choices. There is just what appears to be a bunch of information that has been mushed together in place of this email. I found two emails like that. I right clicked on the two, and deleted the corrupted messages. Then I compacted files. For a moment, things seemed OK. Some other emails near those that would not display worked again. However, shortly after I did another compact folders, I got the same message -- downloading the same 880 emails. Now I have two new messages corrupted.

Please help! I have no idea how to stop this corruption. This account is hosted on Google Workspace. I have it set to sync only the last 90 days of messages.

Hello! I wanted to merge two local folders. Used drag and drop from one local folder to another. Now I realize it was mistake to do it with 5000+ emails. Anyway Thunderbird functions OK, but I have problem accessing these folders, since they don't show messages. The one from which I draged messages is still showing them, but the other to which I dropped messages not... and that is the more important one.

Before moving I renamed destination folder, but now I see that Thunderbird also created another (new local folder) because my action of moving large number of emails... Anyway these folders look empty.

Is there any easy way to stop the action or undo it somehow... cause i really don't wanna loose those emails. Please help, if it is possible! Thanks in advance! Marko

This is a new one... Windows 10 1TB SSD Newest version T'bird

History: Upgraded from 500BG to 1TB using ISO Imaging software

Issue: The ISO Imaging went well and the new 1TB account showed 485GB which was accurate. The next day my 1TB drive was full 998GB and my Thunderbird SBD folder was 743GB. Every time I delete data to create space my imap.gmail.com folder grows (Currently 736GB).

Help!!!

I running Windows11 on a new HP laptop. Out of blue, I am unable to send any picture files attached to my emails. There is no problem sending *.pdf or *.doc files but *.jpg, *gif and *.png files are rejected due to "suspected spam" (is what the messge reads).

I've tried different platforms, e.g., iPhone, and windows laptop, and different email accounts. My email provider, Hughes, tells me it must be the particular files, however it is doubtful that my entire collection of family pictures are somehow now spam. I have scanned my entire hard drive for malware, virus and the usual (Kasperky Plus) and it comes up clean, no issues.

I have disabled the email protection on my email to no affect. Picture files are still rejected.

I have tried two different email accounts; Mozilla Thunderbird and Protonmail. Both accounts will not send the picture file attachments, but as mentioned will send other file attachments.

Any suggestions?

Thunderbird just "upgraded" Now when I open an email --half of the upper part of the page is used to show all info regarding the source of the email. See below How do I get rid of that? Also-- When i try to forward an email the top of the email now shows endless information regarding the source of the email that i am forwarding How do I get that to stop? See below

X-CMAE-Envelope:MS4xfEHR3RU8bj3ltQXltjMUN4ctOKGocyzDNi8d/bZD/GpMfpVDWoayzNXH1fyfLN6kBEdjqRzen3CGZmzGedNCL7TDVAfLcrqXBRQSPfxVD4ptVOTLFpMB hMKDr/FqcTYHboZVlkcI+8OPkd+TR18drutj75BmqhiuCppwFeonlEIfw3fGiGhr2GtPdcDzXoVtP0zjsfY04Gl/YQj6m1abZe/Jo/vMAfPYann3YgNFxi3D IHhsNlZ0/4gyFuG0EnpgECtdaqvFcSO1xoKkDZBJdIgKh4/q+y7RrUSwIVk+RUgK

(note. i'm very wary of posting this question here, as i've been told off, this apparently not being the right place for such matters. but this is where i get to from "Help>Submit Feedback…" in Thunderbird, and also Bugzilla leads me here. if this is not the right place, please can someone kindly tell me where is?)

102.2.2 has really messed things up for me. i can't see any emails after August 9th in any of my Saved Searches, and this is causing real problems.

i've tried deleting the global database and reindexing, but that did nothing.

[Mac OS 10.12.6 Sierra]

3rd post - it would be nice to get a response. I cannot send emaIL FROM THIS WIN 10 FULLY UPDated APP. The error message as above appears all the time (and does not cancel after 1 hour or whatever). Email can be sent using the same smtp settings from various Android devices. Forum suggestions do not cure the problem.

This, along with all the other annoying glitches within T'bird, seem to be forcing me to abandon using T'bird after many, many years. Shame.

Alan

Thunderbird changed over night, and is VERY jacked up... none of my inboxes have anything in them, and one of my Email addresses and folder don't exist!!! I received a response from my earlier rant

Try the following:

Set this setting:

   'View' > 'Folders' > 'All' 

Then do this:

   Menu icon > Help > More Troubleshooting Information
   Under 'Application Basics' - half way is Profile Folders - click on 'Open Folder' 

window opens showing contents of your profile name folder

   Exit Thunderbird now - this is important 

Scroll down and delete the following files:

   folderCache.json
   folderTree.json
   virtualFolders.dat
   session.json
   xulstore.json 

Click on 'Mail' folder

   delete 'smart mailboxes' folder 

(do not worry if it does not exist - it just means you have never used Unified)

Start Thunderbird.

Please Report back on results.

BUT IM ON A MAC....SO I NEED HELP IN MY SYSTEM TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT....OR I PREFER TO GO BACK TO THE OLD PLATFORM....THAT WASN'T BROKE!!!

I have just updated the latest Thunderbird but every time I open it, it just crashes? Is this just a me or a general problem. I am running Ubuntu 22.04. How can I go back to previous version? Hope you can help? Chris

Using Macbook Air M1 with Monterey.

I've spent most of the night trying to find a solution to the blank, unresponsive screen since TB updated. No folders, accounts, messages, etc. *(see attached image). I'm not the only one with this problem, but in all the "solved" discussions of this problem, none of the solutions have worked for me.

I've toggled between themes, uninstalled/reinstalled TB, checked all settings and configs, run in troubleshoot mode, cleared the caches... Nothing has worked.

I'm able to create and send new messages from this blank page, and I receive them on my other devices. So, it would seem my configs are fine. Kind of lost at this point. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

RR

The QUICK version is that Thunderbird automatically downloaded and installed 102.1.2, it "updated" my profile, completely corrupted it and NOW It's acting like a NEW install - NO accounts or emails, it's demanding that I enter my first email account information.

I've tried going back to version 91 and it can't read EITHER of my saved profiles because 102 "upgraded" them. Version 102 IMPORT routine DOES NOT WORK EITHER. Probably thinks that profile is already at 102 even though it WON'T utilize it.

I'm entirely HOSED - all email accounts and all emails GONE GONE GONE.

Here's a summary of my futile attempts to get help since this occurred Monday AM -

Thunderbird Wack-A-Mole:

8/15/2022

Version 102 COMPLETELY HOSED MY EMAIL.

It's demanding that I setup a new email account before it will allow me to do anything!

Meanwhile I have two dozen email accounts and thousands of emails THAT I CAN'T GET TO!

I've just spent a half hour trying to find a copy of version 92.

VERSION 102 hosed my email.

What NOW?

It demands that I setup a new email account and from what I read here my 2 dozen email accounts and thousands of emails may not be accessible any more anyway.

WHERE CAN I GET A COPY OF 92????

"Mark Lang":

From what you are describing, it seems like your TB is not recognizing your profile -- which would cause it to ask you to set up a new one. I would be more specific about exactly what you did to get to this point. You also might want to check what the profile manager is saying. Select the 3 bars in the upper right corner of TB, then Help>more troubleshooting information. Near the bottom of the first table that appears you can click on about:profiles. It should list any profiles TB recognizes. If more than one profile is listed, you might try switching to another one to see if that recovers what you missing. At any rate, more information about specifically what you did, the exact version of 102, etc. will help folks on this forum to give you assistance. The problems described in this thread seem to have been fixed by the versions of 102 at least from 102.1.xxx. At any rate, your emails should still be there on the servers.

8/16/2022:

VERSION 102.2 has DESTROYED ME!!!

When it automatically updated on BOTH my laptop and desktop, I could no longer access my email profile - NO EMAILS and ALL of my 20 email accounts are GONE GONE GONE.

I tried updating with earlier version - doesn't work because 102.2 RUINED MY PROFILE.

I tried updating with 102.2 again and then IMPORTING my accounts and messages from profile and It's STILL demanding that I setup from start again.

I didn't see your response at first, my previous email details what happened. I'll add other steps here:

Getting ready to go on the road for a week. Copied my entire Thundebird profile (26 Gig) to an SSD USB Drive.

Had older version on my laptop - not sure which version - connected to profile, got new emails but NO message bodies would appear in the message window.

Thunderbird automatically "updated" on laptop and then email was hosed - acts like new install.

Then the SAME thing happened on my desktop.

Now ALL of my profiles are screwed! I'm on the road so I don't have ANY email setup information.

"Mark Lang": The TB team recently changed the settings so that that internal updating function would upgrade users to version 102.1.2. Previously, you only got version 102 (instead of the 91.xx series) if you specifically downloaded the new version from the website. Version 102 is a major upgrade and does change the profile folder. It seems like, for some reason, your TB install is not recognizing the folder as changed. This will likely require some work from the development team to track down. Perhaps something is not working with the internal upgrade function. One user reported that he simply downloaded the full install file for version 102.1.2 from the website and reinstalled it, and it then worked fine. You might try that.

Thanks for the quick answer.

I downloaded a complete install for 102.1.2 TODAY and installed it on my laptop.

Then I ran the import from my old profile. It SAID it imported Although it seemed to happen rather fast...

Then SAME THING!!!

I start Thunderbird and it Demands I enter email account to setup.

I won't be able to do much with your tech guys until I fly back home - I'll be home in Hawai'i by Thursday (8/18).

The "updates" that hosed my email were automatic. I DID NOT request them.

My problem is I can't get to my email - EVERYTHING is HOSED in my Profile. I've tried running the import, it says it imports from old profile and doesn't. We're talking at least a dozen email accounts.

It's as if I had NEVER had TB on my computer and I am starting from scratch.

This F.U. occurred just as I was leaving home to go on a trip.

I was a professional computer programmer, consultant, systems designer from 1965 until 2006. It's amazing how techies don't realize that their "mistakes" can really mess up someone's life. I gotta' admit it took quite a few years before I realized what I was doing.

"Mark Lang":

You are saying you imported from your old profile. (NO - IMPORT DID NOT WORK!)

When TB did the update to 102.1.2, it should have converted the profile in place and opened with everything as it was already set up. (IT DID CONVERT - then accounts were gone, email was gone, got NOTHING as described above. Acts like a new install on computer that never had Tbird on it before.)

You should not have to import anything. I am not quite sure how you are importing unless you exported the profile earlier. Perhaps the import process is what is messing up your profile. If you tried an import process that did not work for some reason, that might be why it is asking you to set up everything again. Perhaps the import created a new profile that is blank because it did not import properly. I would go to about:profiles like I suggested earlier. Maybe your original profile is still there. If you see multiple profiles, try switching to the other ones to see if your old profile with all your emails is there, just not selected as the current profile.

I have COMPLETE "corrupted" profiles saved on 2 computers - my desktop and laptop. All of the files are there but Version 102 has corrupted them so they won't work on 102 and won't work on earlier version 91.12.0 that I downloaded and installed either - of course.

"Wayne Mery - moderator":

Chetdude,

Your issue is completely unrelated to the original poster, therefore I am locking this topic because it is very hard to properly support multiple issues within the same topic. Please post your own new topic.

Did you really just update to version 102 immediately prior to going on a trip? Old Thunderbird releases can be found at https://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/ Available profiles can be listed by doing Help > More Troubleshooting Info > about:profiles

(DIDN'T HELP.)

Cannot delete messages. Need to replace corrupt Trash folder.

Trying to follow instructions for "Cannot delete messages." Steps 1-2 OK. Step 3 says "Open the Mail ... folder in your file manager ..." (I am POP Mail). How do I locate this folder ?

W8.1

Cannot download messages to INBOX, cannot delete from TRASH, cannot compact INBOX or TRASH.

This may be a dumb question, but still need help (3rd request). In the writeup on "Cannot delete messages" there are instructions for creating a new TRASH folder to replace one that supposedly is "corrupt." The third instruction says to find MAP (POP) on file folder. How is this accomplished ?