It's not possible to change the order of toolbars using the Customize window, but you can move items from one toolbar to another, hide toolbars, and create new ones.
For example, swapping all the items between the Navigation and Bookmarks toolbars visually has the same effect as changing the order of those toolbars.

• Customize Firefox controls, buttons and toolbars

Changing the order of the toolbars themselves is an advanced operation that most users will find very complicated.
1. First, you need to know the element ID of the toolbar in question. This can be obtained using the DOM Inspector extension.

• https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM_Inspector

2. Next, you need a way to apply your custom style. The Stylish extension is the best way to do this, as it allows you to instantaneously preview, apply or discard your changes.

• https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/stylish/

3. Lastly, you enter your CSS code as a new style in Stylish, then click the Preview button. If it does what you want, click the Save button. If it affects Firefox's appearance in a way it's not supposed to, click the Cancel button or the Esc key.

You can try the following code in Stylish and see if it works. Because I don't have Roboform installed, I got the element ID from a web search. If the code doesn't do anything when you click the Preview button, you likely either need to update the ID yourself or someone else who has Roboform installed will have to chime in.

@namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);

/* Make the Roboform toolbar the last toolbar */
#roboform-bar { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 99 !important; }

• https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/-moz-box-ordinal-group
• https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Getting_Started

Thanks for the options...

Moving items around doesn't help... you can't move logins from the Roboform toolbar (which is at the top now but never used to be before) onto the Amazon toolbar (which is at the bottom now but never used to be before) for example, or items from the Amazon toolbar onto the Roboform toolbar -- they are both propriety 3rd-party toolbars.

Maybe I can try playing with the extension you've suggested, but I fail to understand how the CSS suddenly changed... it was displaying correctly before the last Firefox update, and now suddenly it's all different? Very odd...

See also:

• [/questions/807135]

cor-el wrote:

See also: [/questions/807135]

To rephrase answer 199839 in a simpler way,

1. Type about:support in the address bar and press Enter.
2. Click the Show Folder button.
3. A file manager window opens with your profile folder.
4. Create a backup copy of the extensions.ini file, then open it in a text editor like Notepad.
5. Using Cut and Paste, reorder the list so that the extension for the toolbar you want to appear last, is the last one on the list. Refer to the about:support page in Firefox to see which extension corresponds to which ID.
6. After changing the list order, also change the number of the extension entries appropriately (the first entry on the list is Extension0=...)
7. Exit Firefox, then save the file and close the text editor.

I'm not optimistic about the odds of the order in extensions.ini to remain unchanged across Firefox and add-on updates, add-on installations and removals, but there you have it.

heathervg wrote:

the Amazon toolbar (which is at the bottom now but never used to be before)

If you have the Amazon Browser Apps extension, the ID for that toolbar is

#AMAZONNEW_NS_PH_TB-Toolbar

(Amazon Toolbar was discontinued and superseded by the aforementioned extension, while the other one sharing the same name is unofficial)

If you want the Roboform toolbar above the web page, and the Amazon Browser Apps toolbar above that one, then this is what you'd try:

@namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);

#roboform-bar { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 99 !important }
#AMAZONNEW_NS_PH_TB-Toolbar { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 98 !important }

Again, that's assuming the ID for the Roboform toolbar is the right one. Since the Roboform extension requires a separate application to work, I don't have it installed for testing.

I actually tried that before posting... but my extensions.ini file has 30 extensions listed and none of them appear to be Roboform. Anyway, I am certain that it's ALL my extensions and not just the toolbars.

Funny thing though, after rebooting again today, my toolbars are back to where I want them to be. So it must have been some kind of glitch or something -- or a mischievous computer gremlin messing around :)

Thank you for your help!