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Detailed "Cookie Manager" not available anymore from version 61

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Why, oh why did the Firefox team get rid of the granular overview of cookies? Especially since you started pushing out the Multi-Account Containers, which - in case the Mozilla team doesn't realise, makes no sense without being able to select which cookies to get rid of individually. E.g. with MAC's same cookie can exist in multiple containers but it should only exist in one - google does this all the time. I want to remove cookies that were "misplaced" and leave only the one in the correct container. Now I can't. I can either nuke them all or leave the mess defeating the purpose of using Multi-Account Containers.

We used to be able to view them through preferences but that was turned into combined cookie and storage. I don't mind it all because it's useful as a separate thing and because I could also use the granular Cookie Manager that used to be available under chrome://browser/content/preferences/cookies.xul.

But now starting from version 61 they got rid of the cookies.xul too. What the actual f guys?

Why, oh why did the Firefox team get rid of the granular overview of cookies? Especially since you started pushing out the Multi-Account Containers, which - in case the Mozilla team doesn't realise, makes no sense without being able to select which cookies to get rid of individually. E.g. with MAC's same cookie can exist in multiple containers but it should only exist in one - google does this all the time. I want to remove cookies that were "misplaced" and leave only the one in the correct container. Now I can't. I can either nuke them all or leave the mess defeating the purpose of using Multi-Account Containers. We used to be able to view them through preferences but that was turned into combined cookie and storage. I don't mind it all because it's useful as a separate thing and because I could also use the granular Cookie Manager that used to be available under chrome://browser/content/preferences/cookies.xul. But now starting from version 61 they got rid of the cookies.xul too. What the actual f guys?

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Hi, you do not actually provide a name for the Extension. But there is one called that here along with the rest :

A update to version 61.0.1 was released today, find below what it fixed : https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/61.0.1/releasenotes/ Go to Help --> About to update.

As for the containers I have not had much of a chance to even just install them. If you are using from Test Pilot :

Please let us know if this solved your issue or if need further assistance.

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A detailed cookies list is available in Developer Tools, for the currently displayed site (Storage Inspector). I guess no one made the case for keeping a single view of all sites somewhere. However, an extension probably could list them. Whether there is an extension that is "container aware" is an interesting question.

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Pkshadow said

Hi, you do not actually provide a name for the Extension.

I never said it was an extension I was querying here. It was a very useful and surprisingly well designed functionality that Firefox used to have that has been removed to make XYZ happy. Whoever the XYZ was.

jscher2000 said

A detailed cookies list is available in Developer Tools, for the currently displayed site (Storage Inspector). I guess no one made the case for keeping a single view of all sites somewhere. However, an extension probably could list them. Whether there is an extension that is "container aware" is an interesting question.

That doesn't help, because a) (most importantly) it doesn't provide info on where the cookie is stored, b) it'd be difficult to go through each page just to check where and what cookies are stored or to trace a specific cookie back.

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Kookster said

jscher2000 said
A detailed cookies list is available in Developer Tools, for the currently displayed site (Storage Inspector). I guess no one made the case for keeping a single view of all sites somewhere. However, an extension probably could list them. Whether there is an extension that is "container aware" is an interesting question.

That doesn't help, because a) (most importantly) it doesn't provide info on where the cookie is stored, b) it'd be difficult to go through each page just to check where and what cookies are stored or to trace a specific cookie back.

On a), I don't understand what you mean by "where the cookie is stored." Unless it is a private browsing window, all cookies are stored in the cookies.sqlite database file in your profile folder.

On b), I agree the Storage Inspector is only useful if you were planning to visit a site anyway. But I'm not sure when you need to look at a site's cookies in individual detail while you are not visiting that site. It sounds as though one scenario is that you might pre-delete a particular cookie before loading the site. I guess you will need an add-on for that in Firefox 61+.

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In previous versions of Firefox we had two ways of managing cookies one using preferences and cookies and the other using the chrome://browser/content/preferences/cookies.xul which offered the same functionality as going through preferences. What both of them did they provided a granular overview of all sites and the cookies they set. All in one place as a list. Screenshots attached.

This offered full control over cookies. Unlike how it is today. Today going through "Preferences>Privacy&Security>Manage data" one can only nuke a website/domain as a whole i.e. all cookies and the data. There's no selecting what to leave or what to keep. It's dumbed down but I'm not saying that it's not useful.

What I'm saying is that it's a shame that the drive to dumb things down kills certain functionalities that work beautifully with other aspects of what Mozilla are trying to promote i.e. the Multi-Account Containers. If you look at the screenshots, I've selected lines showing that aspect. Mozilla sell MAC's (and boy are they right!) as a great way to manage your privacy online, have a separate container for each separate purpose (banking separate from shopping separate from business and so on) and make your browsing secure. But by dumbing down what we can do with the cookies they eliminate what MAC's are good for, i.e. control over what ends up where. So now if google decides to set a cookie in a container I want google to stay away from well, I have no way of telling whether they did that. And I would have to remove all google data (and they set many cookies to do with consent and such) and go through the process of setting up a google container from scratch. And I still won't have guarantee that in the next couple of days google won't set a cookie in another container because there's no option to view that separately.

Would be nice to hear feedback from someone at Mozilla who understands cookies and Multi-Account Containers.

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