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Logins inaccurately saved

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It was working when the retention system was keeping the entirety of the URL for which I was providing my username and password. It has since been changed so that it drops the last KEYWORD from the URL and now it won't autofill and stupidly demands that I "copy" each of the parts of the login independently from the "logins and passwords" page where the URL has been wrongfully shortened. This is on Firefox v86.0.1 that the botching of the formerly functional login retention procedure occurred. In any event, having to bop back and forth between the login page and the "logins and passwords" page is stupidly requiring vastly more time than simply retyping the entire information into the actual login. Can this NEW BUG be fixed?

It was working when the retention system was keeping the entirety of the URL for which I was providing my username and password. It has since been changed so that it drops the last KEYWORD from the URL and now it won't autofill and stupidly demands that I "copy" each of the parts of the login independently from the "logins and passwords" page where the URL has been wrongfully shortened. This is on Firefox v86.0.1 that the botching of the formerly functional login retention procedure occurred. In any event, having to bop back and forth between the login page and the "logins and passwords" page is stupidly requiring vastly more time than simply retyping the entire information into the actual login. Can this NEW BUG be fixed?

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YE GADS! Okles @-dbbem although your discussion did not *itself* solve my problem with the new Firefox v86.0.1, it pointed me directly at the situation that did. When I went to your "about:preferences#privacy" of course I wandered through the entire list of what it was saying mostly correctly about my preferences. One thing stunk out instantly as the explanation for the current modification of my abilities. Instead of being "Ask to save logins and passwords for websites" as it had been when I created my successful series of single click, yuppers here we go logins, that box was UNTICKED. So I ticked *that* single solitary box and suddenly my expected exclusive one web site only creation of an intended login/password combination was filled in and I was in fact logged in when I clicked on the login button itself.

As a security matter I may never again ever allow any web site to have its username and password saved by Firefox or anyone or anything other than my decrepit ancient human brain. But this one is a freaking GAME WEB SITE and it frankly doesn't matter two hoots anywhere if my relationship to a freaking GAME were somehow compromised. Sorry, but getting serious about game playing only happens when one is absolutely stupid enough to start throwing real world MONEY at such a thing. I don't, so security quit mattering before I ever started playing (not paying) there.

Any real world relationship, there's no way I would trust Firefox or anyone or any thing else to have more than strictly momentary IN TRANSIT knowledge of what my username and/or password "might be". Let's not get into what the guyz over at Thunderbird are doing these days which offends me majorly and may compel me to write a codicil to my Will cutting off the previous testamentary donation that I had specified for them along with the one for Mozilla itself. But this absolutely one only exception, playing a game which doesn't amount to two hoots in wherever, yeah by golly it actually has been nice to get all that lengthy gibberish input on my behalf by Firefox. So I've been using it and appreciating it actually and am glad, now that I have been "pointed to" what had happened to my privacy instructions and corrected them, to have it back. Playtime is emotionally useful even if not financially nor real socially relevant.

I also took a look at what @cor-el was suggesting and was quite set back by the discussions of having to validate MY EXISTENCE on MY COMPUTER to somebody styling themselves as "Lockwise" let alone the known felony trespassers of google.com who have been leaving scripts running openly and blatantly on MY computers entirely devoid of any consent or even forewarning to me about their intent to criminally trespass. Reading *that* discussion was very upsetting to me and I must at least "hope" that there is some specific forewarning if ever you Firefox people ever solidify that blatantly absurd (in my view yes, that is what I speak from) notion that humans have to identify ourselves to OUR PROPERTY held in our exclusive personal possession and devoid of any trace of any *real world* usernames or passwords (other perhaps than those that the Thunderbird people seem intent on misusing). Please do face up to the fact that we victims of cybercrime can get and are getting more than a bit upset about the disruption of our lives by "computer" pogrommers.

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hello bobgru,

Sometimes in the user & password fields of a webpage you can double click in the user field. Then a list of logins will pop up for you to select.

And sometimes if you begin typing the user/login name into the field, a list will pop up for you to select.

In both cases above, the password should be entered in the field by FF.

Also, there are some webpages that are secured more so these days than in days past. So some pages will have a check box asking if you want "to be remembered" or not.

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@-dbben What was happening with the version immediately prior to v86.0.1 was that a *single* click in the username field was sufficient to get the entire username password filled in. But I tried the "double click" and GOT NOTHING. Also tried typing in the first several letters of the username and GOT NOTHING. This problem began immediately upon installation of the "update" v86.0.1. The web site hasn't changed at all. It is only the willingness of the grossly MODIFIED logins and passwords area of Firefox v86.0.1 to retain the full correct URL. Instead what it is doing is shortening the URL so that it DOESN'T MATCH what the web site actually is. There hasn't been any change on the actually only one web site that I ever have trusted to have Firefox retain my username and password. It's simply that JUST NOW Firefox has been changed so that *it* doesn't work. I call that a BUG in Firefox v86.0.1, not in the web site which is running the exact same version of its software that it was running prior to Firefox's BUG being implemented. Ignoring what *I* say that it is just flatly doesn't work. The short form DOES NOT MATCH what the web site says its proper name is. Furthermore, I don't recall ever having to go to a separate "logins and passwords" page in Firefox when I originally set up the fillin procedure. Maybe old age memory loss but just as likely a changed procedure so that the automatic version no longer functions.

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I am not sure if it's a bug because the issue you are experiencing isnt happening to many other people, like myself.

I had noticed that double clicking our passwords was no longer functional. But the other methods i cited to you, do work and posed no inconvenience for me.

So i think the best solution for your case, is to simply go back to the functional FF that you had enjoyed.

However, try a little testing first:

(A) Examining the settings in FF via entering&going to this url: about:preferences#privacy

(B) Go into FF passwords and logins and delete one of the accounts. The plan here is to then go to the website and re enter the login info and have FF capture it. Then see if FF remembers it via one of the 3 ways we talked about.

(C) Also there is a cookie section in FF. If you search and delete the cookies for this test for one of the accounts, they will be helpful to. The manage cookies section is found at the url cited in (A) above

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Is "Fill Login" and "Fill Password" available in the right-click context menu ?

You can possibly use "Create New Login" at the bottom of the left sidebar in Lockwise to create a login with the correct origin (protocol + hostname; no path possible).

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Isisombululo Esikhethiwe

YE GADS! Okles @-dbbem although your discussion did not *itself* solve my problem with the new Firefox v86.0.1, it pointed me directly at the situation that did. When I went to your "about:preferences#privacy" of course I wandered through the entire list of what it was saying mostly correctly about my preferences. One thing stunk out instantly as the explanation for the current modification of my abilities. Instead of being "Ask to save logins and passwords for websites" as it had been when I created my successful series of single click, yuppers here we go logins, that box was UNTICKED. So I ticked *that* single solitary box and suddenly my expected exclusive one web site only creation of an intended login/password combination was filled in and I was in fact logged in when I clicked on the login button itself.

As a security matter I may never again ever allow any web site to have its username and password saved by Firefox or anyone or anything other than my decrepit ancient human brain. But this one is a freaking GAME WEB SITE and it frankly doesn't matter two hoots anywhere if my relationship to a freaking GAME were somehow compromised. Sorry, but getting serious about game playing only happens when one is absolutely stupid enough to start throwing real world MONEY at such a thing. I don't, so security quit mattering before I ever started playing (not paying) there.

Any real world relationship, there's no way I would trust Firefox or anyone or any thing else to have more than strictly momentary IN TRANSIT knowledge of what my username and/or password "might be". Let's not get into what the guyz over at Thunderbird are doing these days which offends me majorly and may compel me to write a codicil to my Will cutting off the previous testamentary donation that I had specified for them along with the one for Mozilla itself. But this absolutely one only exception, playing a game which doesn't amount to two hoots in wherever, yeah by golly it actually has been nice to get all that lengthy gibberish input on my behalf by Firefox. So I've been using it and appreciating it actually and am glad, now that I have been "pointed to" what had happened to my privacy instructions and corrected them, to have it back. Playtime is emotionally useful even if not financially nor real socially relevant.

I also took a look at what @cor-el was suggesting and was quite set back by the discussions of having to validate MY EXISTENCE on MY COMPUTER to somebody styling themselves as "Lockwise" let alone the known felony trespassers of google.com who have been leaving scripts running openly and blatantly on MY computers entirely devoid of any consent or even forewarning to me about their intent to criminally trespass. Reading *that* discussion was very upsetting to me and I must at least "hope" that there is some specific forewarning if ever you Firefox people ever solidify that blatantly absurd (in my view yes, that is what I speak from) notion that humans have to identify ourselves to OUR PROPERTY held in our exclusive personal possession and devoid of any trace of any *real world* usernames or passwords (other perhaps than those that the Thunderbird people seem intent on misusing). Please do face up to the fact that we victims of cybercrime can get and are getting more than a bit upset about the disruption of our lives by "computer" pogrommers.

Okulungisiwe ngu bobgru

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One observation I need to add to this discussion because it really confused me when I was confronted with it. There is only one of my physical computers, an alternate, that I use for playing the one and only GAME that I'm willing for Firefox to remember and present when desired what my username and password are. What I didn't realize when I set this all up in Firefox to remember the details on my ALTERNATE computer is that, for the benefit of the vast majority of Firefox users who have multiple physical devices, you have set up something that you call synchronization. Basically it amounts to Firefox itself keeping track of what is done on any one Firefox installation of the specific user and copying it over to any other physical device with which that user is involved. So in order to regain control of my intended very separate installations of Firefox, I had to locate and decommission the entire SYNCHRONIZATION effort that is so important to bazillions of other users while a downright nuisance to me with my exclusively one only place where I'm willing to allow and in fact want the use of memory of my username and password.