THUNDERBIRD has many more bugs!
1) When editing a document e-mail, sometimes it's necessary to highlight a specific section (sentence, paragraph, etc.) to remove the content. However, in some cases, THUNDERBIRD then takes the text FOLLOWING the highlighted section & places it ABOVE the previous (undisturbed) text, thereby changing the "flow" of the text message. This is WRONG! ONLY the highlighted text should be manipulated, NO other text of the message. 2) When embedding photo images from an outside folder, it is necessary to resize the images down to a manageable density. In the dialog box for the image selection, one can choose to resize an image. However, even bringing a typical multi-megabyte image down to a usable size (468x3xx) pixel depth, yields strange results. While the image(s) presented on-screen seem OK, IF there are more than 6 embedded images in an e-mail, many times a size limit message will pop up stating that the e-mail will be greater than 25 MB in size. This IS incorrect. For comparison, the SAME 6 images can be processed through WINDOWS LIVE MAIL 2012, and will be sent without any problems. 3) When responding to an e-mail from someone else, many times it is convenient to use a different colour to differentiate the original text from the response. It seems that THUNDERBIRD does NOT hold the revised colour parameter when spacing, etc. This is also incorrect.
There are several other annoying quirks & anomalies with THUNDERBIRD that should have been addressed many releases ago, but still exist even as late as the Rel. 42.xxx
Thank you.
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It sounds to me like you are dragging text in the editor with the mouse. Have you noticed the selection changes when you triple click?
Images resizing does not affect the size of the image, only the size in the HTML document that is used to display the image. So your original multi megabyte file is embedded in the email. Thunderbird assumes you know what you are doing and want to send that huge file by email.There are a number of add-on in this space https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=resize&appver=&platform= I assume you will be wanting the shrunken image resizer.
No one here is interested in what windows live mail did. We are happy to talk about how Thunderbird works, but windows live mail is not even something that the developers would be interested in for feature parity. It was simplistic and on a par with the windows 10 mail app.
BTW Thunderbird is at release 52 and anything before that is unsupported so there will never be any updates or patches for V42. which was a beta release as the release version numbers go V38 to V45.
Thunderbird uses coloured bars on the left to designate who said what. Using the quote and compose manager makes those bars a part of the document.https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/quoteandcomposemanager-en.html
- 1) I do not drag the text. As I explained, sometimes it is necessary to cull out a section of text. So, I set the cursor at the start of the text, then I use the SHIFT key plus the arrow key to highlight the text, and once highlighted I right click on it. When the dialog box opens, I hit either CUT or DELETE as necessary to my goal. Then I will observe that the text immediately above this section will jump up to a higher position in the text. This is not right! The ONLY part of the text that should be affected in this action is the text that was highlighted, no other.
- 2) Well, it may be that THUNDERBIRD shouldn't assume anything with regard to embedded images. IF the use goes through the steps to RESIZE an image or a group of images to a smaller size, then that SHOULD BE the transmitted size, NOT the original size. Your response is inaccurate!
- 3) Your response to my reference about WINDOWS LIVE MAIL is immature, caustic & arrogant! MICROSOFT & WINDOWS & their products, defective so they may be, have been around since 1980 when I-B-M first selected MS-DOS 1.0 for their PC. Where was MOZILLA in 1980???? I wasn't suggesting that THUNDERBIRD copy the way WINDOWS LIVE MAIL works, ONLY that it makes more sense in the way embedded photo images are handled.
- 4) I misspoke. My previous version of THUNDERBIRD on my 4 PCs was 45. Now, it is 52.
Thank you.
KARL_TAUSCHEN said
- 1) I do not drag the text. As I explained, sometimes it is necessary to cull out a section of text. So, I set the cursor at the start of the text, then I use the SHIFT key plus the arrow key to highlight the text, and once highlighted I right click on it. When the dialog box opens, I hit either CUT or DELETE as necessary to my goal. Then I will observe that the text immediately above this section will jump up to a higher position in the text. This is not right! The ONLY part of the text that should be affected in this action is the text that was highlighted, no other.
Does it do it is you use your keyboard to press delete or Ctrll+X to cut instead of using the menu and your mouse?
- 2) Well, it may be that THUNDERBIRD shouldn't assume anything with regard to embedded images. IF the use goes through the steps to RESIZE an image or a group of images to a smaller size, then that SHOULD BE the transmitted size, NOT the original size. Your response is inaccurate!
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. It does not affect the fact that that is not how Thunderbird works. SO install the add-on to have the software work as you think it should.
KARL_TAUSCHEN said
- 3) Your response to my reference about WINDOWS LIVE MAIL is immature, caustic & arrogant! MICROSOFT & WINDOWS & their products, defective so they may be, have been around since 1980 when I-B-M first selected MS-DOS 1.0 for their PC. Where was MOZILLA in 1980???? I wasn't suggesting that THUNDERBIRD copy the way WINDOWS LIVE MAIL works, ONLY that it makes more sense in the way embedded photo images are handled.
Windows live mail is not relevant. Even if you love the software. If you want to continue using something a simplistic as that Windows 10 has a mail app that Microsoft intend as a direct descendant I actually encourage you to try it. It might exactly fit your needs.
I have spent years on this forum listening to people tell me that the only way is the Eudora way, that outlook express never had this bug and now we have a new batch of refugees from another defunct mail client wanting their new mail client to work the same as their old. I recall dealing with people moving from wang mail to lotus ccMail (that was thirty years ago almost) they also wanted the new to match the old and were unhappy their old way of doing things no longer worked.
Thunderbird does not work like Window live mail and no amount of comparisons will change that. If it is arrogant caustic and immature to say so, so be it. A support forum is not the place to ask for enhancements either. You might not be aware of it, but developers do not spend time here looking for ideas. This forum is populated by a half a dozen or so regular volunteers that try and help other users. It is not a forum where change can be initiated. After years I think the developer IRC channels are the best bet, but that is not the official view.
If you feel strongly that image handling should change encourage you to file a bug requesting just such a change. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org But expect resistance. Steganographers would be incensed is their images were manipulated. As would some companies and professionals.
For my personal use, I send so few images that it is not all that relevant to me. I tend to link to images on the web as it makes for small emails that do not get flagged as spam or malware.
I am sure in the past 16 years some would have asked for that, but I can't find it right now.