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Gmail: Moving and archiving won't delete from the server

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Basically, I'm trying to use Thunderbird to clear some space on my Gmail account. I'm using IMAP. However that just won't work (most of the time). If I archive emails to a local archive or move it to a local folder, a) nothing happens, b) the files are actually moved (and appear in the archive folders)... but the mails remain on the server when checking through Gmail itself. Also, the mails reappear after 10-20 minutes. c) mails are actually moved and they are removed from the server. Mostly it's a or b.

I have tried all deletion options... delete directly (doesn't appear to work), mark as deleted (won't free up space) or move to Trash. Depending on the folder it used to work for a short while, with the mails appearing in the trash folder, ready for deletion. But that stopped working again.

This is all super frustrating and I have no idea if this is a bug or expected behaviour.

Basically, I'm trying to use Thunderbird to clear some space on my Gmail account. I'm using IMAP. However that just won't work (most of the time). If I archive emails to a local archive or move it to a local folder, a) nothing happens, b) the files are actually moved (and appear in the archive folders)... but the mails remain on the server when checking through Gmail itself. Also, the mails reappear after 10-20 minutes. c) mails are actually moved and they are removed from the server. Mostly it's a or b. I have tried all deletion options... delete directly (doesn't appear to work), mark as deleted (won't free up space) or move to Trash. Depending on the folder it used to work for a short while, with the mails appearing in the trash folder, ready for deletion. But that stopped working again. This is all super frustrating and I have no idea if this is a bug or expected behaviour.

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Do the developers interpret the word move as copy or what is happening? In some threads it appears that way. Yes, I CAN delete manually, and that appears to work, however it's a TERRIBLE solution. What, if something goes wrong with moving the maisl and I delete it without having actually created a copy in a local folder? What if the search function hasn't found all mails? etc.

Move should mean move, i.e. the email is in the new (local) location and removed (or moved to trash) in the previous location. That's the definition of the word...

Unfortunately I'm very much in a hurry to clear up space on Gmail and all I get is 10 copies of the same emails on my hard drive, with yet another copy on the server...

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