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A couple significant issues with mass downloads

Apologies for the long post but this is important and a bit complicated. There are a couple issues here. I assume that this applies to uploads as well but I haven't reall… (read more)

Apologies for the long post but this is important and a bit complicated.

There are a couple issues here. I assume that this applies to uploads as well but I haven't really investigated that. To be fair, probably all browsers suffer from similar problems, but the fix has to start somewhere, and Firefox seems ideal due to its prioritization of UX over advertising etc.

First of all, the serious one: empirically, Firefox just times out and gives up on downloads after a certain period of idleness from the peer, as though I somehow no longer want the file simply because the server is busy. This makes mass downloads impossible in some cases. The browser should never stop retrying until I manually cancel. But I get it: you don't want to hammer the server with endless requests that it can't handle. So what to do?

Exponential backoff is a bad idea because the probability distribution function of server downtime is more accurately modeled as a decaying power law, not a decaying exponential. Therefore quadratic backoff between retries might make more sense: 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, etc. time units between retries. But this is also a bad idea because then retries arrive more or less simultaneously across all N active downloads, which might originate from the same server. So random quadratic backoff would be preferable: a per-file random time delay between 1 and 4 time units, 4 and 9, 9 and 16, etc.

A more sophisticated approach would be to calibrate the decay exponent through training, but the benefit in terms of efficiency would be incremental. I'll leave that to you.

The bottom line is that it's never appropriate for the browser to supplant its own judgment for the user's command. It should never give up on a download even if the network disappears for a while, except maybe in catastrophic circumstances, wherein for example the server says that the file is no longer available.

Users sometimes need to launch a large set of downloads and leave them over the weekend to complete. This should be trivial and routine but it's currently a babysitting job.

Secondly, the UI issue: remaining download times are poorly modeled, even from an algorithmic perspective without any consideration for AI training over time. In the most typical case, a user is downloading from a datacenter with vastly more bandwidth to spare than the user's own connection, notwithstanding that the file is probably coming from a single server with much less bandwidth than the datacenter as a whole. This means that the peer is faster than the user in most cases. Therefore, typically, the download proceeds subject to the user's own bandwidth constraint. Consequently, the user's total bandwidth is divided among all N active downloads.

But the estimated time remaining only incorporates the current average rate of each download. It doesn't model the fact that, once a download finishes, the freed bandwidth will soon be redistributed among the remaining (N-1) downloads, and then (N-2), etc. This can make an enormous difference in the estimated time remaining, to the point that the existing estimates are uninformative. It's not too complicated to model this algorithmically and display much more accurate estimates.

There's also the current download rate as displayed, e.g. 3 MB/s, which is also uninformative because it's often subject to spikes. You're better off displaying the average download rate over the entire history for the file in question, than the rate over the last however-many seconds. In other words, look at the average download rate over the entire download process up to now, not some arbitrarily windowed subset thereof.

A much more informative number is the number of seconds for which the server has been unresponsive. There's no need to display it unless the server has been idle for at least a second. But after that happens, give a warning indicating that you haven't heard from the server for the past however-many seconds. If all N downloads are in this warning mode, then you might post another warning indicating that the network seems to be disconnected from the internet even though the local router might still be reachable. I'm sure you can improve upon this but idle period is useful information.

Please note that there are 2 major complicating factors which should be taken into a account when estimating remaining download time: (1) the N-way stepwise redistributed bandwidth model described above and (2) the empirical fact that, if we look at aggregate download behavior on large scales, it tends to decay (albeit softly) according to a power law throughout the course of the download, as a result of increasing connection management entropy (packet retries wasting time, intervening "smart" routers adding latency instead of helping anything, operating systems distracted with other tasks, cache misses, etc.). (Over very long periods of time, file transfers speed up exponentially due to Moore's Law applied to bandwidth, but this isn't the timescale of most downloads.) I'm sure you can think of yet more sophisticated ways of modeling expected download time, even including the media flushing and garbage collection latency that's the cause of the ubiquitous pause-at-99-percent phenomenon. The point is simply that there's a lot of low-hanging fruit to be harvested with respect to more accurate time estimates.

Everyone does downloads. This issue is worth your time and attention. Thank you for reading this.

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"Save Image As" button does not work and Cannot reset Download directory in Settings

Using the Firefox 151.0 Mozilla Firefox for Fedora. Updated as of 23 May 2026, I use just a generic FireFox. I don't customize it, I just use it as it comes from the Fe… (read more)

Using the Firefox 151.0 Mozilla Firefox for Fedora. Updated as of 23 May 2026, I use just a generic FireFox. I don't customize it, I just use it as it comes from the Fedora distribution.

I cannot save images (right click menu "Save Image As"). Nothing happens when that is selected. This worked a couple weeks ago.

Downloads are supposed to go to ~/Downloads. Checking the setting for this, Go to the three-line menu > Settings > General > Files and Applications, under Downloads, the "Save files to" value is set to Downloads, but the Browse button does not work to reset it. Nothing happens when I poke on the button. I can select the text in the box, but I can't change it.

I found the help page for "What to do if you can't download or save files https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/cant-download-or-save-files and went thru every one of the steps there. None of them make any difference.

Strangely enough, there isn't even a "Downloads button" in the top toolbar. If I right click on the top toolbar and select "Customize Toolbar" it shows a downloads icon as already being in the toolbar, but when I click Done, it goes away.

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can't download large files from MS Sharepoint

I am unable to download large files from an MS Sharepoint account in Firefox. Small files are fine (less than 100MB). Large files download fine if I use MS Edge browser b… (read more)

I am unable to download large files from an MS Sharepoint account in Firefox. Small files are fine (less than 100MB). Large files download fine if I use MS Edge browser but I don't want to have to use Edge unless absolutely necessary. Using Firefox Troubleshoot mode doesn't help. Clearing the cach/cookies etc doesn't help. When downloading a 600MB file, the download repeatably fails around 90-100MB. My OS is Linux Mint xfce64. Obviously MS doesn't like firefox for some reason, even in Troubleshoot mode. thanks in advance for any help.

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Unable to upload or download files: file chooser window does not appear, request ignored

My current version of Firefox is 149.0 (64 bit) Mozilla Firefox for Arch Linux Arch Linux - 1.0 I am running this on two computers, a laptop and a desktop, both running A… (read more)

My current version of Firefox is 149.0 (64 bit) Mozilla Firefox for Arch Linux Arch Linux - 1.0 I am running this on two computers, a laptop and a desktop, both running Arch Linux, currently at 6.19.10. I use the laptop much more, and recently noticed that I cannot upload or download files with Firefox. No file selection window opens and the request is simply ignored. Nothing appears in my Downloads folder. Meanwhile, I also noticed that this function works just fine on the desktop computer. I don't remember making any settings changes. I do have popups generally disabled but can enable them for certain sites. In any case, I have tried enabling popups and redirects completely with no change. I figure there must be something different about the settings on these two Firefox installations, but what? What can you tell me? Or ask me? Thanks.

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Firefox 149.0 - after update can't save any file, instead it tries to Open everything - Linux Debian

1. This could be under-reported problem. People will have problems reporting this bug 2. Whenever I try to save anything (image, website, Ctrl+S, print website to file, … (read more)

1. This could be under-reported problem. People will have problems reporting this bug

2. Whenever I try to save anything (image, website, Ctrl+S, print website to file, Ctrl+P, screenshots, same problem) my Firefox tries to "Open" something instead. I see dialog window with header SAVE, but the final button is labeled "Open" and after clicking it usually nothing happens. A haven't been able to save anything since this update. Only system-wide screenshots work for me now.

I had to use another installation in order to attach screenshot here. In the problematic 149.0, after clicking "Browse..." and selecting file, nothing happens, and no upload, moreover button won't respond to clicking anymore. Then I force refresh, and this text within this form disappears, but attached image appears.

3. Yesterday I have updated my Firefox to 149.0, using official debian sources, mozilla-deb - 1.0 -

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla.list deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/packages.mozilla.org.asc] https://packages.mozilla.org/apt/ mozilla main

4. I have Linux Debian, (old version, Stretch+backports, yes, I am moving things already to new hdd), maybe it's related: 4.9.0-19-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.320-2 (2022-06-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux )

In order to fill this form I am using separate installation 140.9.0esr (64-bit), you could warn Debian teams not to propagate this error.

5. I have checked Console and Debugger, but they seem website-related. This error happens on every single website. Tried already troubleshooting mode, same problem. Please help us.

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Woke up yesterday to a broken browser; System Handler

woke up yesterday and suddenly my browser is largely non-functional. When opening a file browsing window to upload or attach a file, where firefox would normally open my … (read more)

woke up yesterday and suddenly my browser is largely non-functional.

When opening a file browsing window to upload or attach a file, where firefox would normally open my OS's file browser (Dolphin) it now opens a hideous firefox tab with extremely limited functionality (no file sort/ search/ open, or access to most of my system), and the Download toolbar is now completely broken. Clicking a file opens a little dialogue box that asks "Open with System Handler?" and does nothing upon clicking OK. Nothing also happens on clicking the folder icon to the right, which would normally open a Dolphin window with the file in question selected.

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saving Yahoo quotes as csv suddenly tries to save page image

I'm running Linux devuan: Linux MikesPI 6.1.93 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 8 02:37:53 CET 2025 aarch64 GNU/Linux and Firefox 140.4.0esr (aarch64). For years now I've been do… (read more)

I'm running Linux devuan: Linux MikesPI 6.1.93 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 8 02:37:53 CET 2025 aarch64 GNU/Linux and Firefox 140.4.0esr (aarch64).

For years now I've been downloading and saving Yahoo quotes as csv, now for the last week Firefox wants to save page image poping up an extra window that must be refused before I can continue using Firefox. Hopefully someone can tell me what new option in about:config can be turned off to stop this. Thanks, Mike

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Downloads Fail on Mounted NTFS Disk in Ubuntu 25.10

I have recently encountered reproducible failures when attempting to download files or save pages to local storage. The target directory is located on a mounted NTFS file… (read more)

I have recently encountered reproducible failures when attempting to download files or save pages to local storage. The target directory is located on a mounted NTFS file system with the options umask=007, user=root, and group=disk. My Firefox browser is running under a non-root user account that is a member of the disk group. However, I consistently receive the error message: “XXX could not be saved because the source file could not be read.”

I would greatly appreciate anyone's assistance in resolving this issue.

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I cannod get Firefox to complete a large download - ~356MB.

I'd been trying to download 2 large files from Icann and kept getting premature completion with Firefox. It would be showing ##MB of 356MB downloaded for a few seconds a… (read more)

I'd been trying to download 2 large files from Icann and kept getting premature completion with Firefox. It would be showing ##MB of 356MB downloaded for a few seconds and then out of the blues it just says completed. As you can see in the shared video, I've tried this several times.

I thought that maybe one of the Firefox addons was causing the issue so I tried Troubleshoot Mode but that resulted in the same behavior.

I then went into Firefox Profile Manager and created a new profile. But that too had the same behavior - 🤔!

So I then tried Chromium. It completed the download successfully and the file passed gunzip test.

So, why is Firefox, even with a new profile, failing to complete a download?

See this video: https://youtu.be/UCYQtxljqXs

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Google Dive file download issue

I access google drive through Mozilla Firefox and also zip file or other file download but since 1 to 2 weeks i faced issue to download files especially js file.How can I… (read more)

I access google drive through Mozilla Firefox and also zip file or other file download but since 1 to 2 weeks i faced issue to download files especially js file.How can I solve this?

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