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when I select "get messages" from thunderbird, the system opens the email and reads and notes many messages then sends a message to me saying what it had done, one line per message. Then it does nothing. There is no listing lof messages sent. There is nothing.

If you have an idea about what to do, send it it cwskbenz@verizon.net. I will receive it on my cell phone which gets a copy of each message sent to my PC. regards, Bill Benz

Hi, Left post outlining TBird 115.x issues but I am the issue for the 'search' woes. The upper section simply needed to be shrunk - became a 2-headed arrow [when I figured it out.] Wonder whether other problems are also blatantly simply.

I have been using TB for years. I just discovered this morning on my W11 system, that in my message filters labeled "head hunters" that individual domain names are being deleted. This is on top of having to run rules manually to get them to take effect.

Let me be clear: I capture email address and strip them to domain name, add them to the list called "headhunters" and have that set up for ending with. This way I don't have to have one for each person from that entity that contacts me. So I had at the end of last week, something like 20 entries. Today, I have maybe 10.

I have been going through many reports and I am seeing similar complaints about rule elements going away, and I even got the impression one person was having Rule sets get deleted (Rule set would be a Name, which then has individual rows to act on).

I have folders that have been defined to have removal of all email older than, say, 30 days. I have my inbox rule that gets rid of all emails over 400 days old.

Can this set of processes somehow be in conflict so that Thunderbird is deleting elements in rule sets?

Scenario: I have two E-Mails configured in thunderbird. For simplicity, let's assume they are: `alice@gmail.com` and `bob@cock.li` .

I have configured both via SMTP, and they are *totally different* SMTP servers (Gmail vs. cock.li)

If I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob@cock.li", then when I reply from Bob's inbox in Thunderbird, everything is OK.

However, if I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob.extra@cock.li", using the `.` alias feature of cock.li, then although Bob gets the message in his inbox, clicking "Reply" will actually set "From" as "alice@gmail.com" and "To" as "bob.extra@cock.li" !

To be very clear: this happens when clicking reply in Bob's inbox in Thunderbird.

I think this is a Thunderbird issue because:

• It happens even if I compose the E-Mail from Alice's webmail (i.e. Browser) (Note: Alice still exists in Thunderbird)
• It DOES NOT happen if Alice DOES NOT exist in Thunderbird
• It DOES NOT happen if I try and reply as Bob via cock.li's webmail (i.e. Browser)

My guess is somehow when Thunderbird sees both Alice and Bob as valid accounts in Thunderbird, but the recipient was an aliased version of Bob, it somehow gets confused.

Here are example received headers for an actual demo I tried. (poiasd@saxrag.com is main E-Mail, abuse@saxrag.com is an alias. poiasdpoiasd@cock.li is the sender)

``` Return-Path: <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li> Delivered-To: poiasd@saxrag.com Received: from mail.saxrag.com by vps-2395d3b9.vps.ovh.net with LMTP id Ujt4LrxzMGbCCBAA3wKhXw (envelope-from <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li>) for <poiasd@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 Authentication-Results: mail.saxrag.com; dkim=permerror header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.a=rsa-sha1 header.s=mail header.b=JEr8eBKM; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.cock.li (mail.cock.li [37.120.193.123]) by mail.saxrag.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E8C43C03 for <abuse@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cock.li; s=mail; t=1714454824; bh=srzi4nIgmpT6bW/cD6Um2I0qdwT33DsnyzueIPNTpP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JEr8eBKMA14h1Cxa9V/VRXI4HW9N2jgxJRoLqt7JGONFuPPGOeOH8RYV3+OjkpnIw d/gN5oVnmP0UvUrDkslxvmypeG8qt5NHSSQ2wk5I65iqx+soYPJ8imYYBTu4b1VhHk kTQErXT23hsZwLHoXSHlpnBQYpuuY7uHZXYacEAxVjzZ46ICNc1xDX/iAaA/DIF79h iwZMJT1+Gs3+jh7mnbU+fp0vJA+eafp8z+OXELLEMTWBtkp1imXKjig5X/k3DXAG7a jqeff2obhLKPV39BtxbaXIxVsRmECwSZ7/O2fhqRC9FIFVepH5FQpZFXG5hqJ07WCa GhumeUysmhJxw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:27:03 +0800 From: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li To: abuse@saxrag.com Subject: Sending from WebMail User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.15 Message-ID: <07a14e0d75a83f779ade6de65c42db83@cock.li> X-Sender: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li ```

Windows 10. Thunderbird 115.8.0 While trying to figure out why my taskbar badge says I have 99+ unread emails (for the record, I only have 7), I hovered over the tray icon, and it says I have over 4 billion (with a B!) unread emails. That's not even possible with the email address I'm using it for. Why would this be like this, and how do I get it to be accurate?

With Windows11 and Thunderbird 115.10.1, I am suddenly unable to send emails. It has been fine up until a few days ago and as far as I am aware, nothing has been changed.

I send .doc and .pdf files to my customers. When creating the outgoing email message and attach a file, I used to be able to see the file in the preview pane. I can no longer see the preview. Please help. This feature does work for jpg, tiff, and other image files.

I've gone into "sort-by" and tried enabling threading. I've tried checking the unthreaded box. Group job related email still just disappears. I can't find received group email in the trash or in the junk. I can't find any evidence in Thunderbird that the group email was received. If I go to a different email tool, there it is. Thunderbird is broken. If I scroll back in time and accidentally scroll past the date of the first group email, there it is. I can't be spending all day scrolling through months to years worth of email just to find out I got a group email from someone today. This is totally unreliable way to find an urgent work email.

Hello,

Since updating to Thunderbird 115.10.1, my email/message list scrolls all the way to the top of the list when new emails/messages arrive. I then have to scroll back down to see the new incoming emails/messages. Before updating, when I received new emails/Messages they would be added to the bottom for my list, no scrolling needed. That way I could just start reading with out scrolling back down. I have the sort set to Date/Ascending. This was working correctly before the update. Haven't found a way to stop it that I know of.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Dennis

In a recent email Thunderbird sees an HTML message as plain text, and does not decode it. The message is decoded by my phone using "Email - Fast & Secure Mail by Edison Software". See attached screenshot. Normally Thunderbird suceeds where phone apps fail.

All other HTML messages seem OK

Here is the message source 40%; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-ali= gn: left; margin: 0; padding: 0;" align=3D"left">The UK Government introd= uced the new requirement last year which means voters in England have to = show an acceptable form of photo ID when voting at a polling station.</p>=

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People voting by post ar= e also being reminded to return their postal votes by Thursday May 2.

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If you are unable to ret= urn your vote by post before Thursday May 2, you can take it your polling= station or the Council offices on polling day.

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The Elections Act 2022 h= as made several changes to the existing electoral law which means from Th= ursday May 2, you will be only able to hand in a maximum of up to six pos= tal votes per poll. This includes your own postal vote, and postal votes = of up to five other people per poll.

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If you are handing in po= stal votes at either a polling station or the Council offices, you will b= e also asked to complete a short =91postal vote return=92 form by a staff= member.

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Voters are also reminded= not to post postal votes into the letterbox at the Council Offices, othe= rwise the postal vote will be rejected.

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not sure if this is where i should be but i tried the Thunderbird help and got no answer. After the most recent Thunderbird up date and a Thunderbird install over existing one when i go to my drafts folder and click on any draft or save message in there i get a yellow bar at the bottom of the page that i have never seen before . Now i do not want recreate a new profile and lose all my contacts book marks add on etc. how do i remove that yellow bar in Thunderbird mail

Windows 10 Pro Desktop PC I am using Tunderbird for my gmail account. Version 115.10.1 (32 bit) Ever since there was a update (upgrade?) to gmail I can no longer use Thunderbird for my gmail. I don't know if it's at the Thunderbird end or the gmail end.

Here are the messages I recieve: First is on the actual email message and the second is a "pop-up" msg in the lower right of my screen.

Error on the composed message: "Your message was sent but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent Mail) due to network or file access error. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/Sent Mail-Rick.Reckage@gmail.com"

Error message at bottom right of Thunderbird: "Connection to server.imap.gmail.com timed out"

Thank you for any help to fix this. I like Thunderird so I contribute. I want to be abble to continue using it for gmail ifmpossible.

Hi.,

 Cox cable just discontinued their email server and moved all it's email accounts to Yahoo.

I had been using Thunderbird successfully with Cox for several months before this happened.

 I am able to send and receive emails now via my new online Yahoo server;  however I have not

been able to connect / use Thunderbird to send and receive emails since the Yahoo changeover. I have tried many things, but I either get a "failed" error message or a "timed out" error message. Yahoo support has not been able to figure this one out. They are hard to get a hold of and hard to understand (communicate with). They are overseas from the US.

 I appreciate any help you can offer.

Kind regards, Ken

I sent an email with multiple BCCs and no CCs or TOs, I put myself as one of the BCCs.

I did not receive it and I do not think anybody else did as well since I asked a few people.

The email is in the sent folder. I tried forwarding the email from my sent folder to myself as CC, and that worked. I also tried fowarding as BCC, and that worked.

So what is going on? Is BCC working? How can I know for certain? Do I need to foward the email as BCCs to all my BCCs to get this to work?

Thanks for your help.

I have had Thunderbird email account for years and now I have problems getting my emails to come through on a regular basis. I have to shut down my PC and then restart to get emails to come through. What is the problem. Thanks, James Craig Herring

I have three different computers that I can use Thunderbird to access my hotmail account. All three computers can have the exact same server settings. One computer refuses to send emails unless I cancel the send and immediately resend.. Thunderbird ver 115.10.1 (64-bit) Windows 10 Home Ver 22H2 IMAP Mail Server outlook.office365.com Port 993 Connection Security SSL/TLS Authentication 0Auth2 Outgoing SMTP Server smtp.office365.com Port 587 Connection Security STARTTLS 0Auth2 Take Note All three machines can have identical settings listed above or various changes like Normal Password instead of 0Auth2 and/or an Outgoing server can be smtp-mail.outlook.com with normal password or 0Auth2... One computer must be cancelled will sending and when resent, it goes... no problem...immediately. If I don't cancel and wait, for it to send on the 1st attempt, it will eventually timeout on the outgoing server. Then I might have to reenter a password. Very annoying. I have been doing this for years. It is my workaround....