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Windows 10 Pro v. 21H2 - Thunderbird v. 91.8.1

Windows Security: 4/13/2022 - detected 14 Severe Threats from inbound emails infected with Trojan:HTML/Phish.RA!MTB. 4/14/2022 - detected 23 more since then - "only" 27 more, because I stopped opening Thunderbird except when absolutely necessary..

By that time, Outlook 2016 was also up and running on the same computer and receiving the same email account's messages.

When Thunderbird is shut down, not one Severe Threat is seen by Windows Security. Outlook does not allow infected messages to get through. The moment I open Thunderbird, the virus flood begins with pent up fervor.

Conclusion: Thunderbird has severe security issues. Not Windows. Not Outlook.

With respect, what's going on?

Thank you, rsw1941

I am looking for a new email service provider, and Proton mail seems to always be near the top of the list. Searching Thunderbird support yields only help from a year or more ago. How well do proton and Thunderbird mesh currently?

Is Thunderbird an "insecure app" from Gmail's viewpoint?

Two recent emails from Gmail state on 30 May 2022 "insecure apps" will no longer work with Gmail. Despite warnings, Gmail don't state if Thunderbird is an insecure app, are they trying to force users onto their clunky front end through fear and misinformation? I have been using Thunderbird as a front end for Gmail for at least 15 years and never had security issues.

Login to Facebook and Nextdoor and probably many more social media platforms can now be done with your Gmail password. Both of those social media platforms have real security issues; therefore I find Gmail's advance warnings contradictory in the extreme.

To reiterate wil Thunderbird be affected, if so can its configuration be tweaked allow continued use of Thunderbird as a Gmail front end after 30 May 2022?

Thankyou, Rich

I have four Gmail accounts linked to Thunderbird and have just had the message from Google about OAuth2 starting in May.

I have read I need to change my server incoming and outgoing settings passwords to OAuth2 instead of normal password.

When I then try to send an email it asks for my Google password which I enter and all is okay. However when I try to use another email account on Thunderbird it again asks for the google password for this account and when I go back to the first email account it hasn't remembered my google password again.

Also to make it even more difficult it won't let you copy and paste the password into the google account.

Have I missed something here and it should remember each google password?

I can't setup my email account on thunderbird . It says "Incoming server already exists.". when i go to the inbox it says that the name "... @bak.rr.com or password ... " is wrong . Enter new password. I have tried this on other email apps and it goes right to my email account. I like Thunderbird and have been using it for years . Please help me setup my account on this computer. This is a new computer.

Why is this Thunderbird version so confusing? Doesn't print, can't reply, etc w/o having this whole bunch of tech headers at beginning. What happened to the regular email, print, text, reply features.

Left Outlook due to it's craziness and deciding what to put as spam and in archive vs myself so again thought I'd try Thunderbird as it was a good email program. Now I see why it isn't listed any longer as a good free email program. I have 2 email programs I pay for - Protonmail VPN and Mailfence Entry level. Still learning how to have more than1 email address to use.

Thunderbird used to be very simple, user friendly, and quick. Now it's a mess even when trying to just reply to someeone's email. I get all these 'headers' first and when I select print, I get all this header garbage which wastes tons of paper. Can't find a way around it.

Please help or I'm going to have to dump thunderbird until it gets itself fixed!

I've been using Outlook Express (from XP) for years, even into the Windows 10 era with a patched version of XP. Since GMail will no longer support it after May 2022 I decided to migrate to Thunderbird Portable.

Since 91.8.1 doesn't import from Outlook Express, I first used Thunderbird Portable 52.9.1 x86 (last version that supports XP) to import mails, accounts and whatever else it imports. I then set up a Primary Password, and painstakingly manually added all rules from Outlook Express to Thunderbird's "filters". After everything was up and running, I upgraded to Thunderbird Portable 91.8.1 x86.

For some reason, when I try to login to any GMail account, after the login, pass, allow Thunderbird as email client, a popup window appears asking me to "Change Password", but whatever password I put, it always says "Unable to change password". If I go to "Privacy & Security", "Use a Primary Password" is disabled, and if I check it, it asks me to enter and re-enter a new password, but it also says "Unable to change Primary Password".

II tried both commands listed in the link below, both seem to work by pressing the Reset button, but the error console seems to output a uncaught exception. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/protect-your-thunderbird-passwords-master-password#w_resetting-your-master-password-if-you-have-forgotten-it

Any more suggestions?

I can now see that the question I have asked below has, in fact, been asked several times and so my question is superfluous and I would like to delete it. But I cannot figure out how to delete it and unclutter the database.

How do I delete my question?

I have been receiving the following warning from Google - "On 30 May, you may lose access to apps that are using less secure sign-in technology. To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password. Instead, you’ll need to sign in using Sign in with Google or other more secure technologies, like OAuth 2.0. Learn more. What do you need to do?

Email software, like Outlook 2016 or earlier, has less secure access to your Gmail. Switch to Office 365, Outlook 2019 or newer, or any other email software where you can sign in using Sign in with Google."

I have no idea what this means in respect of my using Thunderbird to 'see' and allow me to read my emails in my GMail - it looks as if I may no longer be able to do so.

I followed the 'Learn More' and What do you need to do" links and I was just even more bamboozled. It tells me to use 'sign in with Google' - I'm sorry but that is meaningless to me - I've never 'signed-into-anything-with-Google'; I've only ever used an ID and a password, so I have no idea what I have to do to keep on using Thunderbird.

I think Thunderbird ought to broadcast to its users what the impact of this 'Google warning' will be to its users and provide clear instructions on what we Thunderbird users need to do (clearer anyway than Google's unintelligible garbage) in order to be able to continue to 'see and read' our Gmails.

Ive been using thunderbird for a long time. The last time it was updated I started having issues. For one, on the left of the screen that shows the folders, the inbox showed 2 inboxes. Today it shows 3 (?). The same with the junk folder, the trash folder and the outbox folder. I haven't shown any new mail in my box for several days. When I tried to retrieve it with my password it said that Mail server pop 3.bbtel responded:authentification failed. I called my support at my phone company. Everything checked out fine with them. The problem pointed to thunderbird. Something screwy is going on and I need help to revamp this whole thing.I would like to continue with thunderbird but I need help straightening out the issues Im having.

I saw someone else who also had Windows 7 like I do ask about this error message, and the only answer was "Update Thunderbird." Just like me, he had Thunderbird 3.1.4. There was no follow up saying it worked.

Will the current version of Thunderbird *run* under Win 7? Or not? Updating my OS on my primary PC is not an option. 98% of Thunderbird works just fine, the only issue I have is that I can't download images in emails. I'm afraid to upgrade, and break Thunderbird.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Yes, I have a Win 10 laptop, but it's too inconvenient to use it most of the time, so it stays in the box until I have something I *have* to use it for. That does not include daily email.

When i try to send a email, and I am using thunderbird this message Warning pops up. You are about to override how thunderbird identifies this site When it has location smtp.plateautel.net 587, This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information. Wrong site. This certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone else is trying to impersonate this site,

Hello. Is there any way to make "Sort by threaded" a default? I am unable to keep that as a select even within one session. Once "Sort by threaded" is set, however temporarily, is there a way to "Expand All Threads" a default? Even within on e session? Thanks you all for your input. /s

I have two mail accounts, both are marked as do not delete any messages. One of the accounts deletes older messages, seemingly at random time, today the oldest message is 14 days old. I have unchecked and rechecked the boxes on retention to no avail. what am I missing?bold text

My Thunderbird email window now looks like the uploaded image. But it was different until a few days ago ... and I want to put things back the way they were.

See the Reply/Forward/Archive/Junk/Delete/More buttons across the middle of the window? Previously those were NOT there. Instead there was just an Edit button.

I don't want the Reply/Forward/Archive/Junk/Delete/More buttons. I want that Edit button.

Why has this changed? I have not updated Thunderbird. It was at v91.8.1 both before and after this unwanted button change.

The only thing I did recently was to add my new @icloud.com email. I can't see how that would cause the Edit button to disappear.

How can I turn things back to the way they were before?

I receive messages from the Guardian newspaper and LinkedIn and the hyperlinks do not work. I went to safe mode and still the same.

The bar at the top is green, when I click on a hyperlink it changes to a light grey. Firefox is set as my preferred browser.

Help or a solution would be very welcome.

Regards

Hello all,

I am posting this discussion because i am amazed at the fact that I cannot find an email client that is able to appropriately handle calendar invitations to/from myself for multiple email addresses and associated calendars.

With Outlook, my issue is that Outlook views my Exchange account as the default calendar account, so that when I accept an appointment to any other non-Exchange account (eg IMAP), the person who sent the invitation gets an 'accept' email from my exchange email address, and not from the email address to which he/she sent the invitation. This looks very unprofessional.

Thunderbird works better and allows for calendars to be matched to email addresses, but has a bug with accepting calendar invites that still has not been resolved: https://bugs.horde.org/ticket/13664

Is anyone aware of an email client for Windows that is able to appropriately handle multiple email accounts (exchange, imap, etc) and associated calendars (exchange, caldav, etc)?

Rik