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Windows 10. Thunderbird 115.8.0 While trying to figure out why my taskbar badge says I have 99+ unread emails (for the record, I only have 7), I hovered over the tray icon, and it says I have over 4 billion (with a B!) unread emails. That's not even possible with the email address I'm using it for. Why would this be like this, and how do I get it to be accurate?

Scenario: I have two E-Mails configured in thunderbird. For simplicity, let's assume they are: `alice@gmail.com` and `bob@cock.li` .

I have configured both via SMTP, and they are *totally different* SMTP servers (Gmail vs. cock.li)

If I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob@cock.li", then when I reply from Bob's inbox in Thunderbird, everything is OK.

However, if I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob.extra@cock.li", using the `.` alias feature of cock.li, then although Bob gets the message in his inbox, clicking "Reply" will actually set "From" as "alice@gmail.com" and "To" as "bob.extra@cock.li" !

To be very clear: this happens when clicking reply in Bob's inbox in Thunderbird.

I think this is a Thunderbird issue because:

• It happens even if I compose the E-Mail from Alice's webmail (i.e. Browser) (Note: Alice still exists in Thunderbird)
• It DOES NOT happen if Alice DOES NOT exist in Thunderbird
• It DOES NOT happen if I try and reply as Bob via cock.li's webmail (i.e. Browser)

My guess is somehow when Thunderbird sees both Alice and Bob as valid accounts in Thunderbird, but the recipient was an aliased version of Bob, it somehow gets confused.

Here are example received headers for an actual demo I tried. (poiasd@saxrag.com is main E-Mail, abuse@saxrag.com is an alias. poiasdpoiasd@cock.li is the sender)

``` Return-Path: <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li> Delivered-To: poiasd@saxrag.com Received: from mail.saxrag.com by vps-2395d3b9.vps.ovh.net with LMTP id Ujt4LrxzMGbCCBAA3wKhXw (envelope-from <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li>) for <poiasd@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 Authentication-Results: mail.saxrag.com; dkim=permerror header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.a=rsa-sha1 header.s=mail header.b=JEr8eBKM; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.cock.li (mail.cock.li [37.120.193.123]) by mail.saxrag.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E8C43C03 for <abuse@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cock.li; s=mail; t=1714454824; bh=srzi4nIgmpT6bW/cD6Um2I0qdwT33DsnyzueIPNTpP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JEr8eBKMA14h1Cxa9V/VRXI4HW9N2jgxJRoLqt7JGONFuPPGOeOH8RYV3+OjkpnIw d/gN5oVnmP0UvUrDkslxvmypeG8qt5NHSSQ2wk5I65iqx+soYPJ8imYYBTu4b1VhHk kTQErXT23hsZwLHoXSHlpnBQYpuuY7uHZXYacEAxVjzZ46ICNc1xDX/iAaA/DIF79h iwZMJT1+Gs3+jh7mnbU+fp0vJA+eafp8z+OXELLEMTWBtkp1imXKjig5X/k3DXAG7a jqeff2obhLKPV39BtxbaXIxVsRmECwSZ7/O2fhqRC9FIFVepH5FQpZFXG5hqJ07WCa GhumeUysmhJxw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:27:03 +0800 From: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li To: abuse@saxrag.com Subject: Sending from WebMail User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.15 Message-ID: <07a14e0d75a83f779ade6de65c42db83@cock.li> X-Sender: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li ```

I have been using TB for years. I just discovered this morning on my W11 system, that in my message filters labeled "head hunters" that individual domain names are being deleted. This is on top of having to run rules manually to get them to take effect.

Let me be clear: I capture email address and strip them to domain name, add them to the list called "headhunters" and have that set up for ending with. This way I don't have to have one for each person from that entity that contacts me. So I had at the end of last week, something like 20 entries. Today, I have maybe 10.

I have been going through many reports and I am seeing similar complaints about rule elements going away, and I even got the impression one person was having Rule sets get deleted (Rule set would be a Name, which then has individual rows to act on).

I have folders that have been defined to have removal of all email older than, say, 30 days. I have my inbox rule that gets rid of all emails over 400 days old.

Can this set of processes somehow be in conflict so that Thunderbird is deleting elements in rule sets?

Hi, Left post outlining TBird 115.x issues but I am the issue for the 'search' woes. The upper section simply needed to be shrunk - became a 2-headed arrow [when I figured it out.] Wonder whether other problems are also blatantly simply.

Searching, nowhere to enter data; I cannot see attachments, looses mail, I have neuromuscular disease, hard to drag; context text EXTREMELY small. I think you all should create a TEXT BOOK [phone book size] on how to use. thanx!

when I select "get messages" from thunderbird, the system opens the email and reads and notes many messages then sends a message to me saying what it had done, one line per message. Then it does nothing. There is no listing lof messages sent. There is nothing.

If you have an idea about what to do, send it it cwskbenz@verizon.net. I will receive it on my cell phone which gets a copy of each message sent to my PC. regards, Bill Benz

Hello. I have an iCloud e-mail address registered in my Thunderbird mail manager and it was working fine since I initiated it with Thunderbird about 3 months ago. In setting it up, I had to log-in to my AppleID and ask for an "App-specific-password", which I did back when I set it up. Strangely, 2 days ago when I opened Thunderbird, I immediately received a small pop-up window asking that I sign-in to the imap server with the password. After trying to close this out several times, I decided to enter the app-specific-password that was provided back when I set it up. This did nothing and I continued to get the pop-up messages which inhibited me from accessing whatever iCloud e-mails I had received up to that point. I am able to cancel out the window message and if I immediately open one of my 4 other e-mail addresses also within Thunderbird, I can use them and with no issues receiving or sending. So last night, I signed into my AppleID again and asked for another app-specific-password and entered the new one into the pop-up message window related to the iCloud e-mail address on Thunderbird. This then held and I was able to receive whatever was scheduled to come in. But this morning, it is back asking for a password again and the one I received last night doesn't seem to work. Am I now going to need to obtain an app-specific-password for only the iCloud e-mail account everytime I want to access that address? And I have tried using the check-off box in the pop-up message window that provides for saving the password. It makes no difference. This is very frustrating, and I am now thinking that using this open-source manager requires advanced operational skills and time-consuming adjustments and baby-sitting of the software, which I do not have the patience for. Any guidance would be helpful and most appreciated. I moved over to this to get away from Outlook and the ever-changing updates which always seem to be driving at getting by your privacy to access web preferences and communication resources. It seems everytime Windows updates, I need to visit every privacy control and insure they are set where I want them. Thanks for any help!

When TB starts up, the only folders I can see are Recent. I can go to View/Folders and click ALL, and as soon as I move the mouse away from that menu item, it switches back to Recent. This started on version 115.09, but persists after I've "upgraded" to 115.10.1.

I've had so much trouble with 115 that I'm about ready to toss the whole thing in the garbage can. Is there an option to 'downgrade' back to 109 or earlier?

Please advise. My emails are an integral part of my business.

Thanks, engrollie

Urgent Help Please as lost ALL EMAILS - I cannot get to post in Thunderbird: 1) I've now spent 4 hours, (from what was trying to sort a 'simple' problem on the server), as I couldn't send or receive any emails, as they think I've 6.5Gb of data on it, in spite of my deleting all my emails off it. So they allowed some extra space to temp sort it again. It's been an issue for about 3mths now. But I deleted everything just the other day having confirmed that was not deleting them off my laptop and that the previously lost emails 2 yrs ago weren't still on their server.

But now checked back on my email client Thunderbird, and I've no emails. They're all GONE bar the odd few I've put into folders (I stopped using folders years back as that lost all my emails way back then!), so I'd been keeping them all in the Inbox. Although I've a few old Inbox files with previous old old emails in so I can access them if I need to. But at least their there! But now again I've just lost everything. This is such a disaster.

Over the last 2yrs it's been going OK until today. Now it's LOST ALL MY EMAILS. I'm as per usual up to my eyes and have to travel this friday for meetings next week. The last thing I needed today was this. I've lost so much data and info in those emails it's doesn't bare thinking about. From show tickets that I need, medical info and data, to flight details to all sorts of crucial data. My ONLY saving grace is that anything I've replied to, I have a copy in the sent folder.

So Please Forgive this being in Firefox, as I can't even add it to Thunderbird help area!! I've had to reset my pw too just to sign in. Sadly right now it all feels so very upsetting I'm thinking I'll have to just have to start using another email client! If every 2 yrs I lose all my emails then this is just not acceptable. I hope you can move this to the Thunderbird threads. If you do please send me a link to it so I can try and find it.

What's so upsetting is had I saved the Inbox file when I saw the 13Gb file size, a bit eariler then, I think I could have saved them. I fear though that the remote server people deleted something, that was somehow still linked to my system and that's meant they've deleted my emails off my laptop too! Terrifying! (Perhaps that is what happened before back in '22. ???) I did look at a 'Sync' settings but not sure what they did so cancelled back out of them.

Running on Win 10 Pro 64Bit i7core 8Gb Ram Thunderbird 115.10.1 (64-bit)

Any and all help will be most gratefully received.

Sub issue to get help : 2) Error to Sumbit to Thunderbird: Sadly I've gone around and around your system saying Ask Question when nothing answers my query on the Thunderbird email questions. But when you click on Ask Question it just takes you back around the system again / Browse all Programs / re click on thunderbird/ reclick on Emails and back to list of FAQ's but nothing helps so click on Get Help and back around you go in a deja vu system.

I have set up my own domain guytec.org using Namecheap. The alias for email is tguy. I have pointed this new email to my gmail address. I can receive emails into my thunderbird Gmail box from tguy@guytec.org. I want to write emails with sent from tguy@guytec.org showing? How??

I know i have asked this already but i did not receive an answer of a solution and id really like someone to help me with this. It is a duplicate question but again no answer and id really like one . i want to remove it please do not tell me toget a new profile and lose everything i have. there has to be another way

Whenever I open TB (115.10.1) new messages download. The problem is the newest message topic is in the Inbox list but it is hidden behind the column headings. I have to scroll the list down one message to see the newest message. Why is this?

Since this morning 99% of my tasks disappeared. When trying to reset the lost tasks I remember by converting emails to task or by entering them as new tasks from the taskbar, they do not save and do not show up.

I restarted thunderbird a few times. Whilst doing that there was an update. I think windows. Thunderbird tasks still not working. Checked updates and Thunderbird is up to date.

Converting emails to tasks is extremely important to me.

I am the beneficiary (or victim, depending on how you view it) of Cox Communications turning all email services over to Yahoo. Both Cox & Yahoo store messages on an IMAP server.

As seems to be Yahoo's custom, they provided minimal documentation. Last night, in a 3+ hr call to tech support, for example, I noticed that my inbox had exactly 10,000 messages. (I know. It's not Inbox Zero -- I'm a bad, bad boy.) This seems suspicious, so I asked Yahoo's tech support agent about it. At first they said Yahoo puts no limits on messages and blamed Thunderbird for this. Then I showed them my employer's Gmail inbox with 35K messages and said this proves it's not Thunderbird. Then the agent said Yahoo has no limit. Then, apparently after getting feedback from their "support team," they said there's a limit of 10,000 messages per folder. So, even Yahoo's tech "support" seems almost clueless about such undocumented "features."

I know I need to trim the inbox, but I also need to keep lots of messages currently in it. So, the first thing I have to do is to move a large number of messages from the Inbox to another folder whose contents will be fixed.

To do this, I first created a folder to keep the original messages, "Cox Inbox."

Then I created a message filter with the following logic:

• Match all of the following: Date, is before, 4/7/24 (the day before Cox migrated my account)
• Move message to, Cox Inbox

But despite trying this repeatedly (I also tried "Match any of the following"), most messages stay in the Inbox and relatively few make it to the "Cox Inbox." I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Can you help?

Not being able to get the filter to work, I tried brute force. In my Inbox, I highlighted all the messages I wanted to move, pressed CMD-C (I'm using a Mac), went to the Cox Inbox, and pressed CMD-V. But it seemed nothing happened. Again, I'm at a loss as to how to troubleshoot this. Please help.

Can't print emails or any saved Thunderbird files. I click on FILE>PRINT and get the print preview, butwhen I click on "PRINT" I get a "printer offline message". I can print from Microsoft Word or PDF files and any other program. It appears that everything worked well until the latest Windows update was installed.

I am using an HP printer and print via HP's Smart Print software which I believe is the default. I'm not sure if this is a Thunderbird issue or another screw up by Microsoft.

Thanks for your assistance.

Been using Thunderbird for 5 or 6 years now and am a big fan. However, in the last few versions, the tool seems to be more and more resistant to actually checking for mail when told to do so.

It frequently does not check at startup ("Check for new messages at startup" is checked for all accounts), and also does not check when "Get all new messages" is selected.

I have tested this with known mail waiting to be retrieved and Thunderbird does not do it when directed. It did eventually do it, and downloaded the mail, but I am not sure why the reluctance to check on demand by the user.

It is possible it may just not be REPORTING that it is checking, but failing to get mail I know was there kind of makes that less likely.

The earlier versions, from 5 years ago, worked very well in this regard... always checked on startup and when told to, always reported the activity in real time as the check proceeded. The newer versions are not good at this. Or it is user error, which is definitely possible, but I'm not sure what I might be doing wrong.

Currently using Thunderbird V115.10.1 64 bit, running on Linux Mint MATE. This is the newest version available as of Apr 29, 2024, and the problem seems to be worse in this one than in the previous version. Not positive on that, but I did have a dickens of a time getting mail downloaded that I knew was there.

Any input or ideas will be most appreciated, thank you in advance.