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Version 115.4.3 seems to have eliminated the Mail Toolbar altogether. The “Unified Toolbar” support page at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unified-toolbar refers to a “Tabs Bar” which is not part of the standard Thunderbird vocabulary (there is a “Tab Strip” at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-customize-toolbars#w_how-do-i-sh.... If you keep changing the toolbars and the vocabulary, you are going to confuse everyone, including yourselves. Now the user cannot customize the Menu Bar (or the Unified Toolbar), so the main buttons on the Mail Toolbar (Get Messages, Write, Chat, Tag, QuickFilter, Address Book etc.) are just not there. There is also no visible way to display the Mail Toolbar. It seems that in their desperate indecision as to whether the Menu Bar or the Mail Toolbar should be on top, the developers of Thunderbird decided to eliminate the Mail Toolbar altogether. What an unfortunate decision. Give us back our Mail Toolbar!'

I'll try again because I would like to continue using Thunderbird. Many times over the past months I have tried to find the answer to this problem. When I click on a link in email it no longer loads my browser. My only option is to right click on the link, copy, then run my browser and paste it. I use Google Chrome, but have tried Edge, Firefox and other browsers and the result is the same. This would suggest the problem is somewhere in my Thunderbird settings. I'm trying to be patient and ask you to be the same. If this problem ever gets solved, I'll begin sending a donation.

   I'm using Chrome on Windows 10 on a desktop computer.  
   My wife also uses Chrome but, on Windows 11 on a desktop computer.  She has no problem with her Thunderbird links.  
   I look forward to any help anyone has to offer.

Sincerely, Jim Archibald, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Hello, I've written to You in below topic: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1435807

We've fixed it just as You've instructed us.

But we've still got problem with sending and saving emails. Some messages (not always, just in some periods of time), are not sent and not saved in sent messages. We've had this problem yesterday and now I don't know what has been sent and which were not.

Waiting for your reply. Best regards

I have Thunderbird as my client on my primary home workstation as well as my traveling laptop. Each instance is configured exactly the same with regards to the four servers I use: Earthlink, GMail, Outlook and GMX. Each of those server/services is also identically configured with regards to these Server Settings: Leave Messages on the Server Until I Delete Them.

Each of the servers -- except GMail -- has the same behavior with regards to how it handles things when I click on the option to Get Messages, i.e., each server seems to be able to identify which of the clients has and which of the clients has not previously been served up with a newly arrived email. It will not send the same email to the same client more than once.

GMail is the exception. There I get what seems to be a first-come-first-served protocol. If I perform Get Messages on the laptop, I will get the email, but will not be able to get the email when I subsequently make the request from the workstation's Thunderbird instance. [Or, if the first request is made from the workstation instance, the laptop instance will never get the email.]

I realize that my usage pattern is rather unique, so it may well be that no one else has ever experienced this behavior, but if anyone has -- with regards to any email server, not just GMail -- and knows a work-around, I would appreciate the instruction.

And, in anticipation of one line of questioning, when I say that all four server/services are configured the same, I am indicating that I do work with GMail as a POP3 server, not IMAP. All my email content ultimately resides on my own hardware resources and is only temporarily resident on hardware provided by the server/service entity.

P.S. Please pardon my mistake in initially, mistakenly posting this request to the Firefox community.

Good evening I have been using Thunderbird mail for ages, and now suddenly diverse thing don't work anymore: I can't chose my signatures anymore, the language correction does not work anylonger, and when I print things they come out wrong. Can you please help me fix that? My email is jean-pierre.biber@natcons.ch Kind regards Jean-Pierre Biber

Dr. phil. nat. Bureau Natcons Appenzellerstrasse 12 CH - 4055 Basel Switzerland

Hello, I moved Thunderbird data to a new computer according to your instructions via a USB drive On the target computer everything goes well until point 9 of your instructions. "Choose to replace your current data when prompted." However, this screen does not appear. I open Thunderbird, but then only the screen to enter the email data appears. So Thunderbird does not open with complete data. What do I do? I'm wrong.

Greetings Jos

Not sure where to put this; too many issues at the same time.

Initial post: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=792869#p792869

cat history.log-* history.log | grep -i firefox -B2 Start-Date: 2024-02-11 19:50:43 Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade Upgrade: thunderbird-l10n-en-gb:amd64 (1:102.13.1-1~deb11u1, 1:115.7.0-1~deb11u1), thunderbird:amd64 (1:102.13.1-1~deb11u1, 1:115.7.0-1~deb11u1), thunderbird-l10n-fr:amd64 (1:102.13.1-1~deb11u1, 1:115.7.0-1~deb11u1)

- Thunderbird moved the top menu bar to the left, now has unreachable buttons at the bottom due to negative interactions with other menus and window manager => tried many forums, but all changes to ./chrome/userChrome.css are ignored. - the quick filter button was moved from the toolbar to an individual bar, adding one new line above message list, reducing the vertical space for content - new management of borders have negative interactions with window manager (tried both options, with and without decoration, both are ... BAD). making it impossible for window manager to properly resize window magnet to other windows - there are large sensibility zones for decoration management catched by TB that make some buttons unreachable in the left bar, and the window manager gadgets i have below (quick launch and desktop management) - there is a new sensibility zone between the top menu bar and the top decoration of windows that give access to some window manager menu, useless at this place, and it reduced the vertical sensibility zone of the buttons, making the click box smaller, and reducing the effective size of buttons, making them harder to click - the unread message count which used to be a nice light blue is now white in a dark grey box, catching the eye more than necessary, slowing me down, and increasing my brain work to focus on what i need to do. also this value is unconsistent; my inbox is curretly shown with 411 total messages, and 630 unread. If i unfold the folder in left column, it seems i have only 89 unread in inbox, and 2 in one subflder, but, to me, 89+2 is not equal to 630. - the file/edit/view menu bar is now BELOW the actions buttons Get/Write/Reply ... - if I roll up the TB windows in the top decoration, any mouse click in the place where the win used to be remains inefficient. So, TB completely broke E17. A shaded win still occupies the screen as if it's unshaded, and more (about 20 pixels below the bottom decoration). - It's 20y the message list was aligned on the top message, so I always made that box half a message taller than an exact message line height multiple, so that the half line white space was a proof I was at the bottom of the list. Now, the list is aligned bottom, and the top line is shown half. I now have no way to know if i am in middle on bottom of list (plus lift is now auto hide).

i don't have any screenshot from previous version for reference. And half issues are bad interactions with E17 about magnetism, and size of click boxes, and this can't be shown on screenshots; even videos would not help if you can't feel it physically, or never used E17 yourself in the past; you can't know how it used to behave.

All these changes have an intense negative impact on my work speed. They slow me down.

TB had almost not changed in 20y of use, but these changes, at the same time, with so many consequences on window manager ... I can't stand it. 20y of habits lost in one evening. Not something you can change at my age.

I have seen only one improvement (bug fix) in recent TB: "save all" attachements works now fine from the menu under the message, and we no longer need to use Save All from top menus (regression bug between TB 1.2 and 1.5, IIRC).

I am just aghast at both the GUI and inevitably irrelevant answers that I keep encountering as I try Thunderbird. In the latest nightmare, I not only can't find any TRASH or DISCARDED folder, ALL the folders have disappeared except for the inbox. Every single icon is useless when expanded, every link is useless, every single menu, tool and setting is useless, every single search within your menu, and every single reply to every single user in every single one of your 4000 suggested articles is useless ... and impossibly irrelevant.

It's like not one person at Thunderbird actually reads one single word of one single user. Heck, maybe that's true. Maybe all the responses are provided by Thunderbird computers.

This particular layout nightmare follows the experience of finding that, when all the folders used to be displayed, there was absolutely no way to perform the simple act of, you know, like, WRITING AN E-MAIL. As I waded through dozens of web pages, both in and out of your Support, I found absolutely NOTHING of the slightest attempt to actually furnish that information or reply. I'm really good at finding info on the net, and it took me almost 30 minutes and dozens of keyword combos before I got that simple info .. and not from you people, either.

How is it possible to make anything this simple and important so impossible?

WHY CAN'T YOU ATTACH EXCEL FILES IN WORKING ORDER - AND IF RECEIVING AN EXCEL FILE CAN YOU SAVE IT AND OPEN IH EXCEL - IF NOT THUNDERBIRD DOES NOT SEEM TO BE VERY GOOD DOES IT

Ever since the past year on the various supernova releases the performance has turned to crap. Very slow, no multitasking performance. I have several e-mail accounts, when downloading from Gmail, my other accounts are non responsive.

And the biggy I cannot select and delete multiple messages. Even a few dozen in spam folder and I get " Not Responding".

The product is wrecked. I never had this much difficulty before. Please own up to the problem and fix it.