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There is no mystery to what's happening here. Programming 101: a security exception doesn't get reset every 2 or 3 passes unless some malicious or incompetent programmer set up a countdown loop to reset it. And who would do that kind of thing to users unless some malicious jerk wants to pressure the users into fighting his or her political programming battles with other net entities? I turn 77 this month, and last year had a tumor removed from inside my spinal cord that, while slow-growing and essentially benign, caused horrific pain. People my age and condition save our energy for things that really matter to us. That doesn't include Lilliputian battles over which end of the egg to open. So suck up your egos and resolve this among each other.

When I try to create a filter there is no "OK" button, so obviously filter can't be created. I tried the command % sudo rm ~Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/vwybotat.default % session.json Got the response zsh: no such user or named directory: Library

I was exploring this new 115 of Thunderbird and ended up wiping the message viewer off the screen.

To start with, I have my TBird 115 as it came "out of the box." Three columns, Inbox folder tree on the left, Cards List in the center, and message pane in the right side.

I messed everything up when I widened the Cards list to the right edge of the window, where the <---> arrowhead disappeared and all there is to the right side is the window resize arrow from my Linux system and that awful slim Jim scroll bar.

I recovered my message pane using F8 key; it is below my short list of email in the Cards View. See the attached screenshot.

I would like to return things back to as they were with the three columns as described above. I forgot, too, where I turned on Classic View. There is a checked box in Settings somewhere. Or is it a menu? I need some help, please.

May I suggest a limit somewhere short of the right-side edge of the window and short of the scroll bar to only widen the message pane "so far," such that one can recover from pushing it that far, using the same means to return it with the double arrow.

OS: Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon Thunderbird 115 MintBox Mini 2 Pro computer

For some time Thunderbird crashes quite often. One reason seems to be Chinese characters in an email I try to open. But it also crashes on other occasions. Several times a day.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/91bb470b-d99f-483e-bb11-209c40221113#allthreads

Updating to version 38.1.0 Start Thunderbird, Starts up OK. Can view messages and write new emails etc OK. If I select "get messages" OR messages are accessed automatically every 5min. then the whole PC crashes. Three finger salute does not bring up task manager. Only way out is to power cycle.

Thanks in advance for your help Cheers Pete

Follows is the Help Troubleshooting info.

 Application Basics

   Name: Thunderbird
   Version: 38.1.0
   User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0
   Profile Folder: Show Folder

             (Local drive)
   Application Build ID: 20150707103124
   Enabled Plugins: about:plugins
   Build Configuration: about:buildconfig
   Memory Use: about:memory

 Mail and News Accounts
   account1:
     INCOMING: account1, , (none) Local Folders, plain, passwordCleartext

   account3:
     INCOMING: account3, , (pop3) pop3.talktalk.net:110, plain, passwordCleartext
     OUTGOING: smtp.talktalk.net:587, alwaysSTARTTLS, passwordCleartext, true

 Crash Reports

 Extensions
   Lightning, 4.0.1, true, {e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}

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   Name: Value

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     Adapter Description: Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset
     Vendor ID: 0x8086
     Device ID: 0x2e32
     Adapter RAM: Unknown
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     Driver Version: 8.15.10.2302
     Driver Date: 2-11-2011
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     WebGL Renderer: false
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     AzureCanvasBackend: skia
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 JavaScript

 Incremental GC: 1

 Accessibility

   Activated: 0
   Prevent Accessibility: 0

 Library Versions

     Expected minimum version
     Version in use

     NSPR
     4.10.8
     4.10.8

     NSS
     3.19.2 Basic ECC
     3.19.2 Basic ECC

     NSS Util
     3.19.2
     3.19.2

     NSS SSL
     3.19.2 Basic ECC
     3.19.2 Basic ECC

     NSS S/MIME
     3.19.2 Basic ECC
     3.19.2 Basic ECC

This issue shows up randomly, affecting a random number of messages. Issue is that one message will take over other messages following. Message notification will look normal in the inbox, but click on the message following X message, and the X message is what will appear. The subject line at the very top of the page will be from Y, but the rest of the information following will be from X. Two, three or more messages may be affected. Deleting X will make no difference. This time, four messages were affected.

Has anyone received this message or know how to fix the issue that may be causing it?

The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 554-'5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34 [BL0GCC02FT003.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com]'

This is a new one... Windows 10 1TB SSD Newest version T'bird

History: Upgraded from 500BG to 1TB using ISO Imaging software

Issue: The ISO Imaging went well and the new 1TB account showed 485GB which was accurate. The next day my 1TB drive was full 998GB and my Thunderbird SBD folder was 743GB. Every time I delete data to create space my imap.gmail.com folder grows (Currently 736GB).

Help!!!

My Mozilla Thunderbird Crashes since I did a windows update

The following was done 1. Start thunderbird in safe mode 2. Disable anti virus software (Malwarebytes/Bitdefender) 3. Update thunerbird 4. Uninstall and reinstall mozilla thunderbird

Nothing has solved the problem

Crash data below:

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Hyper-V RAW : 2 : 34 : 1 : 1 : 0x20026 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 1234191b-4bf7-4ca7-86e0-dfd7c32b5445 
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MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] : 2 : 23 : 1 : 6 : 0x20066 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : f9eab0c0-26d4-11d0-bbbf-00aa006c34e4 
MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] : 2 : 23 : 2 : 17 : 0x20609 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : f9eab0c0-26d4-11d0-bbbf-00aa006c34e4 
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RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 2 : 1 : 6 : 0x22066 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 23 : 2 : 17 : 0x22609 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 : 2 : 17 : 0x22609 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9d60a9e0-337a-11d0-bd88-0000c082e69a 
MSAFD L2CAP [Bluetooth] : 2 : 32 : 1 : 256 : 0x20006 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9fc48064-7298-43e4-b7bd-181f2089792a 
MSAFD RfComm [Bluetooth] : 2 : 32 : 1 : 3 : 0x20026 : 0x8 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll :  : 9fc48064-7298-43e4-b7bd-181f2089792a

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This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

I use TB(Windows 11 ARM. Virtual machine on Mac) for two hotmail accounts. I get double entries in the sent folder on both accounts. Have not been able to find a setting to remedy this. I'm aware that it could be hotmail related. Appreciate any constructive feedback that could help med fix this little annoyance. Thanks :-)

How to change Conversation mode. Incoming email. Replied. Deleting incoming mail also deletes Send which I do not want to happen. How can I solve this ... Thanks Ron

I am all of a sudden not receiving emails from group lists I previously have been a part of and my email is in the distribution list. This just started to happen.

Any suggestions? Not very technical here...

I have four Gmail accounts which I'm phasing out because of the absurd Google policies and convolutions. I've added four new accounts with another, my own mail hosting service. all the four Gmail accounts I have set to forward all to thee new accounts.

The problem is every time I start up Thunderbird it defaults stubbornly to the previous Gmail account which subsequently it cannot log in and for a password.

I tried everything, setting the other account as default account, unchecking server settings [i.e.check for new messages at start up].

Since I have much (downloaded) information still in subfolders that I need to access from time to time I have not yet deleted that account.

Nothing seems to work, every time I start Thunderbird it immediately goes to that previous default Gmail account and then prompts me for "mail server password required".

The strange thing is that the other remaining three Gmail accounts which have identical settings do not create a problem.

how can I make this stop for once and for all?

I can no longer send emails as of today. Instead of O365 SSO login prompt I am getting the old one for wrong password. I did not change any settings for outgoing server, and I can still receive emails with no issues.

The thing is that I have another computer and that one is 102.15.1 version, same thing, cannot send emails.

I've tried to change to OAuth2 for SMTP but no luck, not getting SSO login at all.

Anyone have an idea what's it all about?