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Why is Firefox such unmitigated, low effort [removed]?

This unbelievably atrocious new redesign (like, the [removed] were the Mozilla folks on? Cause even crackheads wouldn't put out some of the [removed] the Mozilla team thi… (read more)

This unbelievably atrocious new redesign (like, the [removed] were the Mozilla folks on? Cause even crackheads wouldn't put out some of the [removed] the Mozilla team things is fine) was the needle that broke the back here; you have successfully pushed another user away from Firefox as it grows ever [removed].

Asked by caseydabair 1 year ago

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UI to puke on

After an automatic update Firefox had a terrible surprise for me. A beyond ugly user interface. And NO WAY to fix this with a simple toggle switch back to classic mode. T… (read more)

After an automatic update Firefox had a terrible surprise for me. A beyond ugly user interface. And NO WAY to fix this with a simple toggle switch back to classic mode. There are theme's available, but still it looks unusable to me. This kind of updates should be beyond Mozilla, maybe don't hire former Apple employees, the esthetics don't have to be " slick and modern"

So after a long fight with almost losing my plugins, saved tabs (100+) etc.. I downgraded successfully to 88.

Step 1 (Secure your profile) Open menu, Click Help, Click "More Troubleshooting Information" Go to the line which says, "Profile Folder" Hit open folder

Pay extra attention during these steps: Now you are browsing in your active profile. If you did this after upgrading to 89 version. Make a back-up copy of this whole folder!! Rename it back up.

Open the file "Compatibility.ini" with a text editor, and empty it. Save and close.

Download and install the previous version of Firefox, After installing don't forget to disable automatic updates.

If the profile isn't loaded, browse to "about:profiles" and find and select your profile to get al your plugins, tabs, favs, etc. back.

Its a terrible shame i need to write this down for people to avoid the frustration of a terrible update

Asked by r.salafi 1 year ago

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Firefox

The best help would have been, to not make the satanic update from hell. Been with Firefox from PC day one. If something works fine leave it alone. If improvements are ne… (read more)

The best help would have been, to not make the satanic update from hell. Been with Firefox from PC day one. If something works fine leave it alone. If improvements are needed make sure they are improvements. This latest update has been made by an agent provocateur, with the help of a saboteur. Someone who hates Firefox & wishes its demise. I have spent hours trying to sort it & have made some improvements. It will never be like it was before that criminal update. Firefox R.I.P. gone but not forgotten. You will always have a place in my heart. Why they murdered you we may never know.

Asked by mackdv1st 1 year ago

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User Interface Changes.

greetings, the autistic and aspergers sector of society has an extremely difficult time with change. They have made petitions, submitted emotional testimony online in y… (read more)

greetings,

the autistic and aspergers sector of society has an extremely difficult time with change. They have made petitions, submitted emotional testimony online in your forums, etc, and there has been a complete lack of response.

There is gobs of scientific data around this globally, and overzealous overlords in tech constantly change the way the product looks, ignoring the science. These changes do nothing for functionality for 99% of people, and doesn't generate revenue for anyone.

What it does do, is it harms, disengages, and disenfranchises this entire group of society. Where they already have an extremely difficult time, the tech world continues to march away from logic, science, and evidence, insisting decorative changes are necessary and required, when the reality is we all know, there is an over the top engineer or designer at 4am on a sunday going "OMG CHARLIE LOOK AT THIS FONT!!!!! IMPLEMENTING IT NOW!!!!!! OMG THIS BUTTON NEEDS TO BE OVER HERE NOW!!!!!"

And then, they force us to accept these changes, without warning, teaching or sharing the change, and without giving the majority the information they need, or the ability to understand or even use the change.

These changes toss their family and home lives into chaos, stress, weeks of slow, turtle like crawl back towards some stability in these humans lives. In extreme cases, these individuals can be physically violent with their family because they have social disabilities, emotionally damaging relations, love, and kindness, simply because the tech world is full of 1 up man ship, instead of logic or compassion.

The tech world can literally design build and create anything, except the concept of no change for those that need it most.

Every time there is these fundamental changes either to design or functionality, these humans retreat from the life they have that comforts them, they lose advancements in their personal lives, and it disturbs and can harm their well being, their home lives, and their relationships with their care takers.

The latest update for your browser changed my childs right click menu, that he spent months learning about how to change and setup for himself. He cannot understand or comprehend how he laboured for what to him seems to be an eternity, and one day when he fires his browser up, all his hard work is gone, that he literally spent months learning.

This time, because he cant reach his emotions, because of the changes firefox forcibly deepthroats planet earth with, he picked up his laptop and threw it out the rear window of the house, a total cost to repair and replace all damages amounting to just under $8000.

Because someone changed his personal stuff. In his private space. Located in his personal house, where he lives in privacy with his family. WHY WOULD THAT CHANGE? WHY SHOULD THAT CHANGE?. HIS PERSONAL ITEMS CHANGED IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE. And no one told him. No one educated him on it. No one told him why it would be better. No one provided him with the tools to use it. He spent months learning this stuff, and one day he woke up and his effort was erased from the planet.

Keep up the good work.


We're all wondering why this stuff is all ok?

Why is it ok to take a virtual machete to someone else's hard work because someone wants a different color?

Henry Ford never went into that car you bought, and changed the location of the steering wheel or the pedals.

Thomas Edison never went into your house, and changed out the light switches for a new design or shape.

GE never went into any ones home and changed the plastic bezel on our tv's.

But all of a sudden, we have a tech world where the only constant, is change. Change of colors and buttons, which in most cases, the business world of making money, keeps saying is costing us, as a society, billions now, and its not generating revenue, its a loss and write off. The business world struggles to keep up with dynamic products, reeducating and relearning, because some digital exist in a logic vacuum.

Speaking of losses, even the general public sees little to no value in change that serves nothing but whimful designers. In fact, the majority of research indicates that the public would rather be able to makes their own style and design changes, instead of the dynamic, impossible to keep up with changes that have morphed into a false idea of progress in the computer world.

CHANGING COLORS AND BUTTONS AND FONTS IS KILLING THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE INSIDE. AND IT ISN'T THEIR FAULT. ITS A DISABILITY

When can we expect Firefox to reach the reality that the public already knows?

This was also sent as an email, to mozilla press, via the web form. As of today, the recieving email address is unknown and hidden, because instead of posting a public address, mozilla uses a web form preventing a submitter from retaining a copy for themselves in most cases, in the form of sent mail. That in and of itself, at face value, appears to be intentional, a deceptive process of false engagement. Another disturbing fact in all this, is that more and more companies are hiding the who/what/where/why of their leadership.

As an individual, i am becoming more and more leery of companies and organizations that hide all forms of contacts and insist people use a forum, where they may or may not get a response, resulting in zero accountability in most cases. (When organizations ask for free public volunteers to be members and help the public, that amounts to social theft. Multiple countries on earth have outlawed this type of behavior, as it resembles an unpaid internship, resulting in free monetary maintenance value for profit oriented organizations, which I acknowledge firefox is not).

If an email submitter cant archive or even retain a sent email, because their point of contact was forcibly moved to an unaccountable web form, any organization can deny all existence of submissions, and thus wash their hands of all responsibility and plead ignorance.

If your organization truly advocates for a healthy internet as it virtue signals, then this letter would never have been necessary.

Every single person on earth, is trying to understand, for 25 years, why our lap top and computer screens are 14 to 20 inches wide, and when we send an email or forum submission to firefox, all the text exists inside a 2 inch by 2 inch window, with 10 inches of unused dead space surrounding the text field, complicating and making editing and fluid reading 100% impossible. We cant read 1 complete line at once, we have to scroll and scroll and scroll in order to read 1 SINGLE SENTENCE. And then you forget what you typed in the previous line because your eyes cant flit and read it in an instant, you have to grab a mouse and scroll, causing you to forget what you were trying to edit, making you go back and find the questionable entry all over again, repeating the process. Tiny text entry boxes are personal time thieves, requiring more effort and time to use. And then because the text box is so small, some people simply write in MS Word or a text document, and copy pasta it over, because you can see multiple lines and paragraphs simultaneously, simplifying and smoothing the editing and proof reading process, all because of a design fail that has been implemented globally as good because its something different than what to used to exist, when we all admit the functionality is a complete failure in all aspects.

Imagine that. Not using the firefox submission form makes life easier to contact firefox. WOW. What a paradox.

These are absolutely preposterous concepts, yet they have existed for 25 years and more. Everyone I know objects, and finds it ridiculous. Yet it persists.

We keep pushing people away and disengaging some, because the rest can cope or deal, or simply to choose assimilate because they feel 100% powerless to have a voice.

The new tab "button" hovers over the browser, and to my aspergers child, seems to be disconnected from the tab and in the wrong place. With no ability to fix, commence bay glass window shatter countdown.

$8000 repair bill in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6........

.....because layouts, colors, button placements and designs, are changed. And nobody asked for it.

        • Addendum: I have always set up my mouse to scroll 3 lines with a scroll. This letter, takes me 4 minutes to scroll through, even thought it is only 1 and a half pages. Because the text box is 2 inches wide.****

What a ridiculous waste of time, effort, energy, and my life. Thanks firefox. Thanks for not promoting a healthy and safe internet.

Asked by spendit 1 year ago

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stable interface

How to get back single-line page spines? The Firefox 87.0 or 88.0 have single-line page spines. The firefox 89.0 have double-line and double-height page spines. How decr… (read more)

How to get back single-line page spines? The Firefox 87.0 or 88.0 have single-line page spines. The firefox 89.0 have double-line and double-height page spines. How decrese spines height back?

Asked by nick1024 1 year ago

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Firefox Account shows Boardman, OR USA

Past few days my FF account displays location as Boardman, OR USA and I'm not sure why as I am in Toronto, ON Canada. For the record this is my second or third reinstall … (read more)

Past few days my FF account displays location as Boardman, OR USA and I'm not sure why as I am in Toronto, ON Canada. For the record this is my second or third reinstall of Windows 10 and Firefox in the last 72hrs and my patience is very thin. Please help solve. Thanks.

Asked by Rye 1 year ago

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Devs: STOP. CHANGING. THE. UI!

I don't know if it's a need to mark your territory, or some marketing major blathering about "holistic new user experience paradigms"--and I put up with the stupid move t… (read more)

I don't know if it's a need to mark your territory, or some marketing major blathering about "holistic new user experience paradigms"--and I put up with the stupid move to tabs on top (because apparently some dev felt that what Firefox users really wanted was Chrome!)--but this is a hideous, steaming turd.

'Oh no, showing the 'close tab' icon and clearly delineating between tabs interrupts the synergistic flow of the UI! Let's make the tabs one disgusting, unreadable blur from left to right! Also, let's make them take up more real estate on the screen, because people have higher resolution screens now--we can totally dominate the upper quarter! Oh, and force the change to the new layout, don't give people an option to revert--and don't warn them, either! EVERYONE MUST SEE OUR MAJESTIC, PERFECT, UNASSAILABLE VISION! Surely that won't confuse TF out of a bunch of grandparents whose hapless children/grandchildren will have to completely re-explain, multiple times, how to get to Facebook!'

Rolled back to 88.01, went through the "new profile" crap you put in to discourage rollback/cover for poor programming, and disabled automatic updates. Barring a major, earth-shattering security vuln, I'm done updating. And when that time comes, I'll find another browser.

Posting here because they've stopped soliciting feedback--probably because they know they've unleashed a sloppy splattered dook onto the world and they're tired of being screamed at.

[Profanity removed by moderator. Please read Mozilla Support rules and guidelines, thanks.]

Asked by gpweaver 1 year ago

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FF 89.0 bookmarks

I REALLY dislike the new bookmark pull-down feature, which has larger fonts and far too much space between bookmarks. Now I have to scroll (for which I can't use the mous… (read more)

I REALLY dislike the new bookmark pull-down feature, which has larger fonts and far too much space between bookmarks. Now I have to scroll (for which I can't use the mouse) to get to the bottom of a long bookmark list. I prefer older versions.

How may I change the appearance of this feature?

Asked by trbrer011 2 years ago

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Top of window takes up too much space

The latest version of Firefox wastes too much space at the top of the window. Stuff is spread out too much. Also the drop down menus from the items in the Bookmarks Too… (read more)

The latest version of Firefox wastes too much space at the top of the window. Stuff is spread out too much. Also the drop down menus from the items in the Bookmarks Toolbar appeared to be double spaced. I will use another browser until this is fixed.

Asked by chzuck 1 year ago

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How I can change height of cards bar?

As title says, this newest update makes Firefox looks so ugly, I can change appearance to previous version or at least make cards bar thinner because now it's twice the s… (read more)

As title says, this newest update makes Firefox looks so ugly, I can change appearance to previous version or at least make cards bar thinner because now it's twice the size than it was earlier.

Asked by karcio_14 1 year ago

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Page Action menu missing in Firefox Mac v.89.0

I just installed v.89.0 on my M1 MBAir running MacOS 11.4, and the Page Action menu (three dots) is missing from the address bar. (See image.) Is this a known bug, or is … (read more)

I just installed v.89.0 on my M1 MBAir running MacOS 11.4, and the Page Action menu (three dots) is missing from the address bar. (See image.) Is this a known bug, or is there a way to restore this feature? Thanks.

Asked by renniecoit 1 year ago

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Firefox tab height

Hi! With the latest update to Firefox, the tab height is now taking up too much of my vertical screen space and the option to make them compact seems to be gone from wher… (read more)

Hi! With the latest update to Firefox, the tab height is now taking up too much of my vertical screen space and the option to make them compact seems to be gone from where it used to be in the settings. I've tried to search for an extension to fix this, but haven't managed to find one. What do you all suggest I do?

(I don't want to use Chrome. It takes so much RAM that I can't really run both Chrome & Discord at the same time, let alone anything else with it.)

Thank you!

Asked by seandbreslin 1 year ago

Answered by Paul 1 year ago

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Main action menu

Just updated FF to 88.0. Customize*, which used to be under *Options* is missing from menu. Not under More Tools, either. I will reserve judgment on the new versi… (read more)

Just updated FF to 88.0.

  • Customize*, which used to be under *Options* is missing from menu.

Not under More Tools, either.

I will reserve judgment on the new version. Don't expect these minor inconveniences.

Thank you.

Asked by CiaoBella1 1 year ago

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Get Pocket - View List missing

Hi All, I use Get Pocket - a lot! Before the last couple updates the normal bookmark icon - would click on that and there would be a link to Get Pocket list. That has now… (read more)

Hi All, I use Get Pocket - a lot! Before the last couple updates the normal bookmark icon - would click on that and there would be a link to Get Pocket list. That has now disappeared. The only way I can find to see the list, is click on the "save to pocket" icon, whereby it then saves the page I am on, although I don't want to save the page, and it also has a link to view the list. So have to click on that, then delete the page just saved. All so ridiculous. I must be missing something here. The update before this, was the same and I reverted back to an older version of Firefox. Thought would try this latest update, but no ... the pocket list link inside the bookmarks icon is not there.

How can I get to view pocket list without having to first save the page I am on, then delete it? What am I missing. I attach three images. One of how I used to use the Get Pocket list .. i.e. using the bookmark icon. Then what the book mark icon shows now .. no pocket list ... and the only way I have found to view the list, but saving a page first :) ..... Thanks for any advice.

Asked by company.account 1 year ago

Answered by Paul 1 year ago

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Firefox menu iconography

After the Firefox upgrade to version 89, the icons disappeared from the menu. When I look at the changes page, I see that they have been specifically removed. In my case,… (read more)

After the Firefox upgrade to version 89, the icons disappeared from the menu. When I look at the changes page, I see that they have been specifically removed. In my case, the functionality of the Firefox menu has been severely compromised by losing those icons. So far, I’ve used those icons as a mechanism for faster navigation between different points. Because it is faster to recognize a single icon (character) than to read text. In the past, toolbar items overlapped menu items with icons. And now not. Not only that, the layout of the menu items has changed.

My suggestion would be to return the icons. And make them show / hide through settings.


I am not an English speaker, so I apologize if there are various errors in the text.

Asked by djucius 1 year ago

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Firefox FeedBack

A new version has been released - 89. And the user interface has changed again. And some of the changes are very annoying. I thought I would write a feedback (review). Bu… (read more)

A new version has been released - 89. And the user interface has changed again. And some of the changes are very annoying. I thought I would write a feedback (review). But I found out through google that the feedback page has been down since 2014.

So the question would be where can I leave feedback on one change or another?


I am not an English speaker, so I apologize if there are various errors in the text.

Asked by djucius 1 year ago

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Recent Firefox Update Took Away Ability to Email Link

Firefox 89.0 no longer has the three dots at the end of the URL in the address bar. That is where the option to "email link" was in older versions. Do I have to install a… (read more)

Firefox 89.0 no longer has the three dots at the end of the URL in the address bar. That is where the option to "email link" was in older versions. Do I have to install an addon now if I want to email a link?

Asked by Joe B 2 years ago

Answered by Paul 2 years ago

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Tabs on Bottom Release 89.0

Hello, all. This is not a question but a pointer for those who have successfully been using userChrome.css to put the tabs where they belong, below the Bookmarks bar.&nb… (read more)

Hello, all.

This is not a question but a pointer for those who have successfully been using userChrome.css to put the tabs where they belong, below the Bookmarks bar. :-)

If you used a userChrome.css solution such as that presented in threads like the support article "tabs on bottom release 72.0.1" (full disclosure, that is my solution), then you just need to add to the #TabsToolbar section one line:

top: var(--uc-titlebar-padding,86px);

You can play with the "86px" until you have the tabs where you like them. Depending upon my profile and other CSS options, I have to move that a few pixels up or down to get it looking just right.

Asked by Peter Humphries 1 year ago

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