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Clicking "reply" replies to the recipient (me) if the sender (me) is also in Thunderbird and the recipient was aliased

Scenario: I have two E-Mails configured in thunderbird. For simplicity, let's assume they are: `alice@gmail.com` and `bob@cock.li` . I have configured both via SMTP, and… (read more)

Scenario: I have two E-Mails configured in thunderbird. For simplicity, let's assume they are: `alice@gmail.com` and `bob@cock.li` .

I have configured both via SMTP, and they are *totally different* SMTP servers (Gmail vs. cock.li)

If I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob@cock.li", then when I reply from Bob's inbox in Thunderbird, everything is OK.

However, if I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob.extra@cock.li", using the `.` alias feature of cock.li, then although Bob gets the message in his inbox, clicking "Reply" will actually set "From" as "alice@gmail.com" and "To" as "bob.extra@cock.li" !

To be very clear: this happens when clicking reply in Bob's inbox in Thunderbird.

I think this is a Thunderbird issue because:

  • It happens even if I compose the E-Mail from Alice's webmail (i.e. Browser) (Note: Alice still exists in Thunderbird)
  • It DOES NOT happen if Alice DOES NOT exist in Thunderbird
  • It DOES NOT happen if I try and reply as Bob via cock.li's webmail (i.e. Browser)

My guess is somehow when Thunderbird sees both Alice and Bob as valid accounts in Thunderbird, but the recipient was an aliased version of Bob, it somehow gets confused.

Here are example received headers for an actual demo I tried. (poiasd@saxrag.com is main E-Mail, abuse@saxrag.com is an alias. poiasdpoiasd@cock.li is the sender)

``` Return-Path: <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li> Delivered-To: poiasd@saxrag.com Received: from mail.saxrag.com by vps-2395d3b9.vps.ovh.net with LMTP id Ujt4LrxzMGbCCBAA3wKhXw (envelope-from <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li>) for <poiasd@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 Authentication-Results: mail.saxrag.com; dkim=permerror header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.a=rsa-sha1 header.s=mail header.b=JEr8eBKM; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.cock.li (mail.cock.li [37.120.193.123]) by mail.saxrag.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E8C43C03 for <abuse@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cock.li; s=mail; t=1714454824; bh=srzi4nIgmpT6bW/cD6Um2I0qdwT33DsnyzueIPNTpP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JEr8eBKMA14h1Cxa9V/VRXI4HW9N2jgxJRoLqt7JGONFuPPGOeOH8RYV3+OjkpnIw d/gN5oVnmP0UvUrDkslxvmypeG8qt5NHSSQ2wk5I65iqx+soYPJ8imYYBTu4b1VhHk kTQErXT23hsZwLHoXSHlpnBQYpuuY7uHZXYacEAxVjzZ46ICNc1xDX/iAaA/DIF79h iwZMJT1+Gs3+jh7mnbU+fp0vJA+eafp8z+OXELLEMTWBtkp1imXKjig5X/k3DXAG7a jqeff2obhLKPV39BtxbaXIxVsRmECwSZ7/O2fhqRC9FIFVepH5FQpZFXG5hqJ07WCa GhumeUysmhJxw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;

format=flowed

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:27:03 +0800 From: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li To: abuse@saxrag.com Subject: Sending from WebMail User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.15 Message-ID: <07a14e0d75a83f779ade6de65c42db83@cock.li> X-Sender: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li ```

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Comcast/Xfinity is binning email sent from Thunderbird to yahoo, gmail or hotmail This problem started on April 24. I have compared the Mozilla info at the front of ema… (read more)

Comcast/Xfinity is binning email sent from Thunderbird to yahoo, gmail or hotmail

This problem started on April 24.

I have compared the Mozilla info at the front of emails sent to my wife before and after April 24. The only differences other than Subject and content are:

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Emails to gmail get:

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Emails to hotmail get:

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.509 Access denied, sending domain [ACM.ORG] does not pass DMARC verification and has a DMARC policy of reject. [PU4P216MB1581.KORP216.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM 2024-04-28T07:03:54.765Z 08DC66942A10A029] [AS9PR06CA0096.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com 2024-04- 28T07:03:54.886Z 08DC65C282FFA777] [AMS0EPF000001B7.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com 2024-04-28T07:03:54.887Z 08DC66AF862E5B46]

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Not being able to get the filter to work, I tried brute force. In my Inbox, I highlighted all the messages I wanted to move, pressed CMD-C (I'm using a Mac), went to the Cox Inbox, and pressed CMD-V. But it seemed nothing happened. Again, I'm at a loss as to how to troubleshoot this. Please help.

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