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Having problems with Thunderbird + Gmail : Want copying behaviour, am getting moving instead

I access a Gmail account with Thunderbird from browsers on differing machines. I also tried using Thunderbird itself to access the mail in Gmail. So we have three diffe… (read more)

I access a Gmail account with Thunderbird from browsers on differing machines. I also tried using Thunderbird itself to access the mail in Gmail.

So we have three different pieces here: A) Gmail account itself B) Thunderbird's view of the gmail account C) Thunderbird's local folders

What I was expecting was:

1) Thunderbird would pull copies of info on gmail (A) to Thunderbird's view of gmail account (B).

2) I would drag and drop folders or emails into the local folders (C) from Thunderbird's view of gmail account (B)

3) I would end up with gmail itself (A) having the email, Thunderbirds view of gmail account (B), and a copy in local folders (C).

You'll ask "Was it IMAP or SMTP/POP?". I entered the info in TB for the IMAP. There is SMTP information too that I see in TB. However, on gmail's settings on gmail itself says IMAP is disabled. POP is not disabled.


What I've got is confusion and things not where I expected.

1) I had Thunderbird pull info to its version of the gmail. 2) I dragged and dropped things (folders and emails) into local folders thinking I was making copies

Instead of what I expected, I ended up with:

Gmail account (A): All the tags somehow got pulled and the email is all sitting (I think maybe) in 'All Mail'. Not sure as there are hundreds of emails to look at an I think some things have been taken out of gmail.

Thunderbird's version of gmail account (B): Had a lot of email from gmail that had identical folders under the account in TB. Now those folders under TB's version of the email from gmail are empty.

Thunderbird's local folders (C): I think all the missing email from both gmail (A) and Thunderbird's version of the gmail account B) are now in local folders.

That's very much not the outcome I was looking for. I also was unclear was whether folders under the gmail account in Thunderbird were (in fact) local... the presence of the 'local folders' separately left me unsure.

I haven't used a mail client for personal use for a decade or more now. I use webmail (gmail). However, I wanted to do what I would have done in the old days - I wanted to pull down a copy of everything in gmail and save it (back when, it would have been as a .PST).

Mostly I was hoping for: I) Gmail mail is left on gmail. II) TB's version of the gmail account holds a copy of everything in gmail III) and I can backup, with a structure similar to gmail being preserved, a local repository (in whatever the right export format is these days) IV) If I'm in Thunderbird, I can send an email via gmail

I believe I can get every email that was messed up on gmail back there with some work. What I don't know is how to do what I want to do , as described immediately above. (Items I, II, III, and IV)

How can I do those things?

And are the folders under the gmail account representation in Thunderbird actually local? If so, why is there also local folders?

Asked by Tom Barclay 41 minutes ago

Update failures

Always shows "Failed to check for updates" On version 125.0.3 and still says needs to be updated. Then just run the install again and then it stops for a bit still on s… (read more)

Always shows "Failed to check for updates" On version 125.0.3 and still says needs to be updated. Then just run the install again and then it stops for a bit still on same version and then shows up needing update...been doing the same thing for a while now.

Asked by tlkincaid 1 hour ago

Availability for Ubuntu ARM64 via Orange Pi 5+

I know that there is a generic Linux iteration that can be downloaded, but it does not appear to allow for use on ARM64. Is there a way that I can download, install, and … (read more)

I know that there is a generic Linux iteration that can be downloaded, but it does not appear to allow for use on ARM64. Is there a way that I can download, install, and access Firefox on my Orange Pi 5 Plus?

Asked by Caleb 1 day ago

Last reply by jonzn4SUSE 2 hours ago

I have a brand new laptop with windows 11 installed and can't open any profile folders

A brand new windows 11 laptop. I've installed TB 115.9.0 (64-bit) and want to migrate a profile from another machine to this one. When I try and do anything with the pro… (read more)

A brand new windows 11 laptop. I've installed TB 115.9.0 (64-bit) and want to migrate a profile from another machine to this one.

When I try and do anything with the profiles (about:profiles) I can see the profiles TB thinks it has (several now after my mucking around), but in every case, if I click on the Open Folder button I get the message

C:\Users\myusername\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\7654blah.Default User is unavailable. If the location is on this PC, make sure the device or drive is connected or the disk is inserted,.....

I have tried manually adding the folder it can't open into the profile directory, no change. I have tried creating new profile with the profile manager, but no folder is ever created by the application itself.

I'm out of ideas.

Asked by Peter Nunn 1 day ago

Last reply by Matt 10 hours ago

I've lost access to my three Thunderbird email accounts after downloading some gmails and setting up a Local Folder for them.

I know where my emails for my three accounts are, but can't see them in Thunderbird anymore since downloading some gmails. Also my Thunderbird user interface changed some… (read more)

I know where my emails for my three accounts are, but can't see them in Thunderbird anymore since downloading some gmails. Also my Thunderbird user interface changed some months ago and doesn't look like what I see online in instructions for doing things.

Asked by rsythe 12 hours ago

Lost all data

Had all my emails stored locally. Accidentally uninstalled Thunderbird. Reinstalled. Unable to Import my old settings from my "profile". Error message says "Unexpected… (read more)

Had all my emails stored locally. Accidentally uninstalled Thunderbird. Reinstalled. Unable to Import my old settings from my "profile". Error message says "Unexpected error" Was able to import configuration alone, but it was all wrong. Can't set up my gmail account. Error message "Malformed server" Please help

Asked by nightrad 1 day ago

Last reply by david 1 day ago

tools-delete all marked as junk

I moved from 115.10.1 32 bit to 115.10.2 64 bit. What the hell happened to everything? No file menu standard bar, tools menu moved from top left to hidden menu drop down … (read more)

I moved from 115.10.1 32 bit to 115.10.2 64 bit. What the hell happened to everything? No file menu standard bar, tools menu moved from top left to hidden menu drop down on top right (you should NEVER move controls from one side to the other), no way to delete all marked as junk? This is unusable.

Asked by jas14 1 day ago

Last reply by david 1 day ago

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New installation of Thunderbird 115.10.2 on Windows 11 has no buttons

Hi. I've just installed the latest version of Thunderbird on a clean copy of Windows 11. Thunderbird comes up with no buttons across the top (Get Messages, Write, Prin… (read more)

Hi.

I've just installed the latest version of Thunderbird on a clean copy of Windows 11.

Thunderbird comes up with no buttons across the top (Get Messages, Write, Print, Address Book, etc).

I can't see an option for displaying them.

Any suggestions please?

Thanks, Dave.

Asked by Dave 1 day ago

Answered by Dave 1 day ago

Reinstalling Thunderbird

Hi, I have had Thunderbird on my Windows 10 laptop successfully for many years. Today I added a new email account, but then Thunderbird kept losing connection. I thought … (read more)

Hi, I have had Thunderbird on my Windows 10 laptop successfully for many years. Today I added a new email account, but then Thunderbird kept losing connection. I thought I'd try uninstalling and re-installing it, but now I get the message that it can't be installed on my laptop. Anyone know how I can get round this?

Asked by mf6tmgxhr8 1 day ago

Last reply by david 1 day ago

Flash Video Downloader 3.7.0 download issue for anroid

If you're experiencing issues downloading Flash Video Downloader 3.7.0 on your Android device and are considering using SnapTube APK Premium as an alternative, it's cruci… (read more)

If you're experiencing issues downloading Flash Video Downloader 3.7.0 on your Android device and are considering using SnapTube APK Premium as an alternative, it's crucial to ensure compatibility and safety. Both applications facilitate video downloads, but make sure to download SnapTube from a reliable source to avoid malware. Also, check that your Android version supports these apps, as outdated systems might face functionality issues. Always prioritize secure and official sources for downloading any app to safeguard your device's integrity.

Asked by Mogees Hassan 2 days ago

Missing Folders O365

I'm setting up Thunderbird for the 1st time with multiple email and calendar accounts. One of the accounts, an O365 account, is not setting-up the sub-folders. I was al… (read more)

I'm setting up Thunderbird for the 1st time with multiple email and calendar accounts.

One of the accounts, an O365 account, is not setting-up the sub-folders.

I was also having issues with the same account's calendar and have implemented Tbsync Account Manager from the add-in and that seems to have fixed it.

Now on to the folders issue. The only folders appearing are the Inbox and Trash.

Any suggestions?

Asked by Eric Gombrich 2 days ago

Transferring my existing email address to Thunderbird / Mozilla

My existing email provider (iiNet) here in Australia is no longer offering an email service. I have been recommended (by iiNet) to transfer to a company called 'The Messa… (read more)

My existing email provider (iiNet) here in Australia is no longer offering an email service. I have been recommended (by iiNet) to transfer to a company called 'The Messaging Company'. Already I have had an issue with the Messaging Company on account of their poor customer service. I note that Thunderbird has a Global Inbox. Does this mean that you are able to offer me an email service that will allow me to keep my current email address?: brucepitt@iinet.net.au If you are able to help, an estimate of the cost for this service would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation, Bruce Pitt Queensland Australia

Asked by brucepitt 2 days ago

Last reply by david 2 days ago

Import profile

Hello and Good Morning! I need to transfer messages from one computer to another. I follow your instructions - export to .zip, file smaller than 2gb. On the second compu… (read more)

Hello and Good Morning!

I need to transfer messages from one computer to another. I follow your instructions - export to .zip, file smaller than 2gb. On the second computer, I import the .zip file, the import seems to be successful, then I restart the program and I don't see the imported data anywhere (only Local Folders is created, but it is empty).

Could you please help me? Will be very, very helpful ;)

Asked by kuba.frankowski.gt 3 days ago

Last reply by kuba.frankowski.gt 2 days ago

New laptop

I have a new laptop & I've downloaded Thunderbird & logged in. It doesn't have all my old emails & folders in the new one. How do I transfer all the old email… (read more)

I have a new laptop & I've downloaded Thunderbird & logged in. It doesn't have all my old emails & folders in the new one. How do I transfer all the old emails & folders from the old laptop to the new one? Or is it a settings issue I need to go into on the old laptop to make it so they appear in the new laptop?

Asked by jheatley 2 days ago

Last reply by david 2 days ago

Win 7: Firefox update to 115.10 esr from 91.0.2

It looks as though installing this 115.10 ESR will be a "new Install" instead of an update. 1) Will I lose my bookmarks, settings, passwords, ect? (My bookmarks have be… (read more)

It looks as though installing this 115.10 ESR will be a "new Install" instead of an update.

1) Will I lose my bookmarks, settings, passwords, ect? (My bookmarks have been collecting for years....)

2) If I try this will creating a restore point return me back to the way I was before the attempt?

Thank You All!

Asked by Longtimeuser 3 days ago

Last reply by cor-el 2 days ago

Update Firefox

Hello! I have some proplem to update Firefox on all my six computers. It is also impossible to download a new Firefoxand install on a clean computer . The message I get i… (read more)

Hello! I have some proplem to update Firefox on all my six computers. It is also impossible to download a new Firefoxand install on a clean computer . The message I get is as the image below. Regards/Sture Axelsson sobaxe@gmail.com

Asked by sobaxe 3 days ago

Cox e-Mail Transitioned to Yahoo Mail

I have a Fastmail and 2 Cox addresses on rolled back Thunderbird 102. The Fastmail is IMap and both Cox addresses are POP 3. Cox is transitioning to Yahoo Mail, but we … (read more)

I have a Fastmail and 2 Cox addresses on rolled back Thunderbird 102. The Fastmail is IMap and both Cox addresses are POP 3. Cox is transitioning to Yahoo Mail, but we have kept our Cox addresses. I'm getting Yahoo mail web mail and think I should change the existing settings on Thunderbird and not create new accounts, but want to make sure. I saw something about Thunderbird and Yahoo and want to make sure I do it right or should use the third party setting for desktop clients that Cox provided for the transition. For me, the transition has not gone smoothly and I'm pretty frustrated. I am not a techie and any help in getting mail to the 2 Cox addresses landing in Thunderbird and the Fastmail continuing as is would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Asked by Cookie Grabber 76 3 days ago

Last reply by david 3 days ago