I use 125% with Win7 and don't ever get a horizontal scroll bar in Firefox with a 1600 x 900 LED monitor. What screen resolution does your monitor have?

the-edmeister said

I use 125% with Win7 and don't ever get a horizontal scroll bar in Firefox with a 1600 x 900 LED monitor. What screen resolution does your monitor have?

Precisely my point, everyones eyesight is different, and there are so many different monitors, etc. That is the reason for variables in html, percentage of screen instead of fixed width numbers. Unfortunately too many people program to their screen at their resolution, Mozilla Support included. But the browser can simply convert those numbers to a percentage, and no more nightmare.

I understand the eyesight issue. I'm 67 yo and wear bi-focals, and have my monitor "shoved back" 43" from my eyes so I can view it without eyestrain. Corner desktop surface that I made-20+ years ago.

What is your screen resolution?

1024px width or less could produce a horizontal scrollbar on the vast majority of websites today. IMO, 1366px width is about the minimum for the websites that I frequent now.

With the "race" by monitor / screen manufaturers to be bigger and have more resolution, webpage designers have taken advantage of the "increase" to make their pages wider so they can get more advertising on their pages (my opinion about the ad sizes and number 'we' see; or don't with a "blocker"). IMO, every 3 to 5 years there is a shift in the "accepted" minimums with little thought toward users with failing or poor eyesight; or those users who don't fall into the 'trap' of buying "bigger" or the latest hardware available every few years.

Yes, webpages can "float" and automatically adjust to the users screen width - but only within the parameters provided as far as minimum screen width size as coded in the webpage.

Here are two references to what I mentioned about screen resolution "standards" changing over the years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution#Computer_monitors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

And keep in mind that websites can "see" and "save" the statistics for the resolution of monitors their users are using when those users view their webpages, and can adjust their minimum page widths to suit their "viewing audience".

All true, but more resolution only makes things smaller, at what value. If you can't get your message out to potential customers, because they can't read it.... FireFox is an awesome opportunity because it is not corporate based, it is built by people. That said the average novel has what 15 to 20 words across the width of the page. These webpages, and those flash based bbs s are the worst, are hitting 30, 40 words per line, making simple text two screens wide.

Yes this computer is an antique, but technology is a double edged sward. I do have a new computer, but I argued with Mail.com for over a year now, unable to access my eMail, because they block WaterFox which works nicely with the 64 bit and my half a million tabs. I had to retrograde so I could finally get to my eMail. I do a lot of research, I need my eMail and my bbs s, and having to use two different computers for each is too much.

Yes a browser has to keep up with the times, but old computers don't need to be left out. That is why "options" are such a great thing.

And Edmeister, on a personal note, Try an old computer, it is nice to be able to see the font again (if the scroll bars don't make you sea sick). I have my new computer "literally" attached to a 4 foot screen, and I sit 4 foot away, that is where that miniature, overpixeled font finally becomes reasonable to read.

This Antique is 800X600 on XP

unremerableusernameoverf4car said

All true, but more resolution only makes things smaller, at what value.

That is what the Windows settings for Smaller 100% (default) > Medium 125% > Larger 150% are there to compensate (some) for the larger screen sizes and higher resolutions. There's also a setting in about:config that does similar for just Firefox.. layout.css.devPixelsPerPx https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1120822#answer-871967 Just don't deviate too much from 1.0 - you can use 1/10 increments; lile 1.1 or 1,2 as you experiment with it. You need to find the "sweet spot" for your hardware and your eyesight, and that will take a little trial and error to get it livable.

unremerableusernameoverf4car said

This Antique is 800X600 on XP.

There you go, as Dennis Weaver used to say as McCloud. The internet moved beyond that as a "standard" screen resolution right after WinXP came out in October 2001 or not long after.

In 2003 I picked up a "demo" CRT monitor that was used in a retail store display for only 2 months for "a song" when Compaq wanted the new monitors to be displayed where I worked part-time; 2" larger screen (19 vs 17) that had 1024x768 resolution. I got it because I was tired of scrolling sideways as more and more websites that I was using had received changes to their layout, Where the minimum width was larger than 600px or thereabouts (because different browser engines treat CSS widths slightly different from each other).

Is there a primer some place for programming FireFox, and maybe a second primer for plugins?

N ya when XP came out is when I had to buy my first set of glasses, actually Win98 3 kicked it up... but then I picked up a novel and realized it was my computer and not me. However time has since got the better of me, and I too became blind.

Not a "primer" or tutorial, but this is the documentation for Firefox and add-ons like extensions and themes. Plugins are created by 3rd parties to be used by Firefox.

Mozilla Developer Network website. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/