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I submitted a bug last to Bugzilla last Sep. that seems not yet to be assigned to anyone, and a bug two days ago that wasn't acknowledged. Is the Bugzilla site working? … (funda kabanzi)

I submitted a bug last to Bugzilla last Sep. that seems not yet to be assigned to anyone, and a bug two days ago that wasn't acknowledged. Is the Bugzilla site working? Should I be doing something else to report the bug?

Kusonjululiwe 11 203

Remove search from address bar,

Why isn't there a simple means to remove/prevent searches for the address bar, using config doesn't work. I've used Firefox for over twenty years, this annoyance will end… (funda kabanzi)

Why isn't there a simple means to remove/prevent searches for the address bar, using config doesn't work.

I've used Firefox for over twenty years, this annoyance will end that and force a move to Brave.

Kusonjululiwe 11 284

Unable to sign into Yahoo with Thunderbird or Firefox

I've recently set up Thunderbird on Linux Mint 22.2 and was unable to sign into Yahoo so I tried to sign in with Firefox instead and had the same errors :- Something … (funda kabanzi)

I've recently set up Thunderbird on Linux Mint 22.2 and was unable to sign into Yahoo so I tried to sign in with Firefox instead and had the same errors :-

   Something went wrong
   We could not sign you in. Try again from a different device.

OR

   We couldn’t sign you in
   Change your browser settings to continue. Try the following:
   Turn off ad blockers
   Enable JavaScript

If you still can’t sign in, try a different device.

I can sign in with Chrome without any problems on the same workstation. Firefox version :- 147.0.4 (64-bit)

   Only Extension is Privacy Badger, but this is disabled for Yahoo.com

Thunderbird version :- 148.0 (64-bit)

   No extensions - as installed from Thunderbird download site

I'm not having any issues signing into any other websites / email accounts (Google, Hotmail).

I notice on the support website :- https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-yahoo it says "Starting with version 148, Thunderbird is switching to a more secure authorization protocol PKCE for Yahoo" BUT this isn't offered in the list of Authentication methods, has PKCE been delayed? Currently using OAuth2 for Thunderbird

Kusonjululiwe 11 190

Cannot create my Comcast email account in thunderbird

I am running Linux Mint and Thunderbird 140.9.0esr (64-bit). When I try to setup my Comcast email account I get errors and the program basically stops. For example "can't… (funda kabanzi)

I am running Linux Mint and Thunderbird 140.9.0esr (64-bit). When I try to setup my Comcast email account I get errors and the program basically stops. For example "can't access property "cleanup", this [#configVerifier] is undefined". When I allow Thunderbird to do the initial search and follow its recommendation I get this error: Error creating account Incoming server already exists

I have Tbird running on two other computers THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED OFF. I noted that if I tried setting up Tbird on my newest Mint installation, i.e., Tbird running on my Windows machine, it would also fail to make the account.

I am at a loss as to what is going on. Any ideas???

Kusonjululiwe 11 45

firefox isn't re-opening tabs despite the setting being enabled

Recently Mint upgraded my FF to v147 - possibly relevant, possibly not. There's no post mentioning anyone having this issue on the Mint forum though. In my Settings, "Op… (funda kabanzi)

Recently Mint upgraded my FF to v147 - possibly relevant, possibly not. There's no post mentioning anyone having this issue on the Mint forum though.

In my Settings, "Open previous windows and tabs" is definitely enabled, but it doesn't happen. I only get my homepage custom URLs.

I went into troubleshooting mode and FF then behaves.

So I figured the issue must be with an extension - but I disabled all my extensions, and it doesn't help. Only going full troubleshooting mode fixes it.

What do I do next please?

Kusonjululiwe 10 313

Firefox browser settings are no longer available.

I have the latest Firefox installed on Linux Mint. But in Firefox privacy settings there is no longer a way to choose browsers. It just says "Firefox is currently your de… (funda kabanzi)

I have the latest Firefox installed on Linux Mint. But in Firefox privacy settings there is no longer a way to choose browsers. It just says "Firefox is currently your default browser". But every time I do a search, it automatically search with Google. That never never happened until I installed latest Firefox. If Firefox is forcing me to use Google, that why do I need Firefox?? Please explain?

Thanks much for your time

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 10 247

Sync doesn`t sync my tabs

Sync is a nightmare. It is so unintuitive! What exactly would be wrong with having separate Export and Import buttons for each of Settings, Addons, Tabs, History, Bookm… (funda kabanzi)

Sync is a nightmare. It is so unintuitive! What exactly would be wrong with having separate Export and Import buttons for each of Settings, Addons, Tabs, History, Bookmarks, etc? I have a desktop box and a newer laptop I wanted to get up to date. I pressed the Sync button on the desktop ... By the way, there`s a link below that reads "Connect another device" ... Connect where? Someone is designing these interfaces who has absolutely zero imagination. Anyways, I signed off, moved the ethernet cable to my laptop, signed in, pressed Sync, and voila!, I got my Bookmarks, at least. But I have no idea how to get my tabs and windows. I tried with a "download link" something or other, but it seemed to assume I was sync-ing to a phone, and didn`t work. Any way to get my tabs?

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 10 1840

Not enough, Mozilla

Saying "you can turn off the AI" is NOT enough, Mozilla. Nothing is ever "turned off" unless it's completely removed. This is Microsoft's playbook BS; "but you can turn i… (funda kabanzi)

Saying "you can turn off the AI" is NOT enough, Mozilla. Nothing is ever "turned off" unless it's completely removed. This is Microsoft's playbook BS; "but you can turn it off", but for some reason the system is always using a metric ton of memory, lagging and whatnot. You, of all companies, should know this and be better than that. Nothing good is ever force-installed and impossible to remove. Unless you all make it installed completely separately so people like me, who are a significant part, if not most of your user base, can not install it, nothing short of a full renunciation of the CEO will suffice to make we trust you again.

"Internet for People, not profit" is seeming more and more like blatant false advertising every day.

Ikhiyiwe 10 394

Applying security settings to all user-accounts of one PC including add-ons

Hi all, For quite a while I'm working together with others on a voluntary base (nobody gets money) as members of a computer-club, a charitable NGO and NPO (in German: gem… (funda kabanzi)

Hi all,

For quite a while I'm working together with others on a voluntary base (nobody gets money) as members of a computer-club, a charitable NGO and NPO (in German: gemeinnütziger Verein) for seniors in order to bring them closer to the use of digital devices and media. It's not only teaching, but administrating the hard- and software as well.

I can remember that it was possible in former versions of Firefox to include at least a script into "defaults->prefs". I think it was user.js (not sure) in the installation folder to define common preferences to be fixed, like proxi settings. It always worked well, preventing non-privileged users from making any unwanted changes. As a I found out there must have been a very similar way to include add-ons (like uBlock Origin).

Unfortunately all content I found was older than about 10 years. When trying setting up Firefox as it is now, my test system didn't care about anything I've tried.

I'm talking about > 50 Windows-PC having in average 3 user profiles each (for teaching more than 400 members). We are amateurs regarding PC administration, except some network ex-professionals. "Baking" installation media including our needs, as I already found on Mozilla's pages, seems to be beyond our abilities as well as distributing a fitting profile (we don't have a MS-server), not speaking about Group Policies.

Is there any usable guideline for people like us? Today, each FF-installation looks different and I would like to unify this as easy as possible.

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 10 147

Unable to read/save passwords on Thunderbird 60.2.1 on Xubuntu

Hello, After upgrading my Thunderbird install to version 60.2.1 on my Xubuntu 18.04 machine, I cannot access my mail anymore, because there seems to be a problem with pas… (funda kabanzi)

Hello,

After upgrading my Thunderbird install to version 60.2.1 on my Xubuntu 18.04 machine, I cannot access my mail anymore, because there seems to be a problem with passwords.

Symptoms:

- When starting Thunderbird, I get an "Enter your password" box for each of my accounts even though I had my passwords saved.

- When I go to Preferences -> Security -> Passwords -> Saved Passwords, the list is empty.

- When I try to enter a password and save it, it does not actually get saved and Thunderbird will ask again soon after.

- The following line is logged to console a whole bunch of times:

JavaScript error: jar:file:///usr/lib/thunderbird/omni.ja!/components/crypto-SDR.js, line 179: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Couldn't decrypt string

Other findings:

- Downgrading Thunderbird to 52.7.0 fixes the problem. The old saved passwords just reappear again and Thunderbird has no problem logging in.

- Starting Thunderbird 60.2.1 on a Windows 10 box with exactly the same profile folder works fine. It can read the passwords and access my mail accounts.

Can you please tell me what to do to fix this, so I don't need to keep using an old version of Thunderbird just to access my mail?

Thanks,

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 9 297

Firefox fails to open pdf downloads in default application

Firefox 136.0.1, Linux 6.8.0-55, have set Okular as default pdf application, however Firefox will not open pdf file when downloaded nor will it open the file when select… (funda kabanzi)

Firefox 136.0.1, Linux 6.8.0-55, have set Okular as default pdf application, however Firefox will not open pdf file when downloaded nor will it open the file when selecting Open File from the Download Icon on the toolbar. Only was I can get to file is to select Show in Folder option and open from within Dolphin.

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 9 507

Firefox and Firefox-Dev crashes on google maps.

I use Firefox-Dev(129.0b9 (64-bit)) and Firefox (128.0.3 (64-bit)) as default browsers on my Gentoo Linux system with an Intel i7. Both Firefox-Dev and Firefox crash will… (funda kabanzi)

I use Firefox-Dev(129.0b9 (64-bit)) and Firefox (128.0.3 (64-bit)) as default browsers on my Gentoo Linux system with an Intel i7. Both Firefox-Dev and Firefox crash will visiting some websites. Especially Google maps. I have a Gentoo Laptop with and i3 where I run both Firefox-Dev and Firefox and things run fine. I have more software installed on the Intel i7. Video cards ar different of course.

Here is my ldd: opt/firefox $ ldd firefox linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc8e584000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f0161fe7000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0161e08000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0162007000)


Here is the crash report: AdapterDeviceID: 0x6613 AdapterDriverVendor: mesa/radeonsi AdapterDriverVersion: 24.1.3.0 AdapterVendorID: 0x1002 Add-ons: formautofill%40mozilla.org:1.0.1,pictureinpicture%40mozilla.org:1.0.0,webcompat-reporter%40mozilla.org:2.1.0,webcompat%40mozilla.org:129.3.0,default-theme%40mozilla.org:1.3,addons-search-detection%40mozilla.com:2.0.0 AvailablePageFile: 98520420352 AvailablePhysicalMemory: 57304293376 AvailableSwapMemory: 68719472640 AvailableVirtualMemory: 65166487552 BackgroundTaskMode: 0 BuildID: 20240726091552 ContentSandboxCapabilities: 119 ContentSandboxCapable: 1 ContentSandboxLevel: 4 CrashTime: 1722173712 DOMFissionEnabled: 1 DOMIPCEnabled: 1 DesktopEnvironment: xfce EMCheckCompatibility: true GpuSandboxLevel: 0 GraphicsNumActiveRenderers: 1 GraphicsNumRenderers: 1 HeadlessMode: 0 InstallTime: 1722086601 IsWayland: 0 LastStartupWasCrash: 1 LinuxUnderMemoryPressure: 0 Notes: Gentoo LinuxFP(D00-L1000-W0000000-T01) WR? WR+ EGL? EGL- GL Context? GL Context+ WebGL? WebGL+ ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384} ProductName: Firefox RDDProcessStatus: Running ReleaseChannel: aurora SafeMode: 0 SecondsSinceLastCrash: 324 StartupCacheValid: 0 StartupCrash: 0 StartupTime: 1722173401 SubmittedFrom: Client TelemetryClientId: 8d5032ba-a1c3-4acb-b235-847bd4545b87 TelemetryEnvironment: {"build":{"applicationId":"{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}","applicationName":"Firefox","architecture":"x86-64","buildId":"20240726091552","version":"129.0","vendor":"Mozilla","displayVersion":"129.0b9","platformVersion":"129.0","xpcomAbi":"x86_64-gcc3","updaterAvailable":true},"partner":{"distributionId":null,"distributionVersion":null,"partnerId":null,"distributor":null,"distributorChannel":null,"partnerNames":[]},"system":{"memoryMB":64259,"virtualMaxMB":null,"cpu":{"count":12,"cores":6,"vendor":"GenuineIntel","name":"Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz","family":6,"model":45,"stepping":7,"l2cacheKB":256,"l3cacheKB":12288,"speedMHz":5700,"extensions":["hasMMX","hasSSE","hasSSE2","hasSSE3","hasSSSE3","hasSSE4_1","hasSSE4_2","hasAVX","hasAES"]},"os":{"name":"Linux","version":"6.6.38-gentoo","locale":"en-US","distro":"Gentoo","distroVersion":"2.15"},"hdd":{"profile":{"model":null,"revision":null,"type":null},"binary":{"model":null,"revision":null,"type":null},"system":{"model":null,"revision":null,"type":null}},"gfx":{"D2DEnabled":null,"DWriteEnabled":null,"ContentBackend":"Skia","Headless":false,"EmbeddedInFirefoxReality":null,"TargetFrameRate":60,"adapters":[{"description":"OLAND (radeonsi, , LLVM 18.1.8, DRM 2.50, 6.6.38-gentoo)","vendorID":"0x1002","deviceID":"0x6613","subsysID":null,"RAM":0,"driver":null,"driverVendor":"mesa/radeonsi","driverVersion":"24.1.3.0","driverDate":null,"GPUActive":true}],"monitors":[{"screenWidth":1920,"screenHeight":1080}],"features":{"compositor":"webrender","hwCompositing":{"status":"available"},"gpuProcess":{"status":"unused"},"webrender":{"status":"available"},"wrCompositor":{"status":"blocked:FEATURE_FAILURE_DISABLE_RELEASE_OR_BETA"},"openglCompositing":{"status":"available"},"omtp":{"status":"unused"}}},"appleModelId":null,"hasWinPackageId":null},"settings":{"blocklistEnabled":true,"e10sEnabled":true,"e10sMultiProcesses":8,"fissionEnabled":true,"telemetryEnabled":true,"locale":"en-US","intl":{"requestedLocales":["en-US"],"availableLocales":["en-US"],"appLocales":["en-US"],"systemLocales":["en-US"],"regionalPrefsLocales":["en-US"],"acceptLanguages":["en-US","en"]},"update":{"channel":"aurora","enabled":true,"autoDownload":true,"background":true},"userPrefs":{"browser.search.region":"US","browser.search.widget.inNavBar":false,"browser.urlbar.autoFill":true,"browser.urlbar.autoFill.adaptiveHistory.enabled":false,"browser.urlbar.dnsResolveSingleWordsAfterSearch":0,"browser.urlbar.quicksuggest.dataCollection.enabled":false,"browser.urlbar.suggest.quicksuggest.nonsponsored":true,"browser.urlbar.suggest.quicksuggest.sponsored":true,"media.gmp-gmpopenh264.enabled":false,"media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastInstallStart":1721840659,"media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastDownload":1721840660,"media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastUpdate":1721840660,"media.gmp-manager.lastCheck":1722086677,"media.gmp-manager.lastEmptyCheck":1722086677,"network.trr.strict_native_fallback":false,"widget.content.gtk-high-contrast.enabled":true},"sandbox":{"effectiveContentProcessLevel":4,"contentWin32kLockdownState":3},"addonCompatibilityCheckEnabled":true,"isDefaultBrowser":true,"defaultSearchEngine":"google-b-1-d","defaultSearchEngineData":{"loadPath":"[app]google@search.mozilla.org","name":"Google","origin":"default","submissionURL":"https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q="}},"profile":{"creationDate":19928,"firstUseDate":19928},"addons":{"activeAddons":{"formautofill@mozilla.org":{"version":"1.0.1","scope":1,"type":"extension","updateDay":19926,"isSystem":true,"isWebExtension":true,"multiprocessCompatible":true,"blocklisted":false,"description":null,"name":"Form Autofill","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":19926,"quarantineIgnoredByApp":true,"quarantineIgnoredByUser":false},"pictureinpicture@mozilla.org":{"version":"1.0.0","scope":1,"type":"extension","updateDay":19926,"isSystem":true,"isWebExtension":true,"multiprocessCompatible":true,"blocklisted":false,"description":"Fixes for web compatibility with Picture-in-Picture","name":"Picture-In-Picture","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":19926,"quarantineIgnoredByApp":true,"quarantineIgnoredByUser":false},"webcompat-reporter@mozilla.org":{"version":"2.1.0","scope":1,"type":"extension","updateDay":19926,"isSystem":true,"isWebExtension":true,"multiprocessCompatible":true,"blocklisted":false,"description":"Report site compatibility issues on webcompat.com","name":"WebCompat Reporter","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":19926,"quarantineIgnoredByApp":true,"quarantineIgnoredByUser":false},"webcompat@mozilla.org":{"version":"129.3.0","scope":1,"type":"extension","updateDay":19926,"isSystem":true,"isWebExtension":true,"multiprocessCompatible":true,"blocklisted":false,"description":"Urgent post-release fixes for web compatibility.","name":"Web Compatibility Interventions","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":19926,"quarantineIgnoredByApp":true,"quarantineIgnoredByUser":false}},"theme":{"id":"default-theme@mozilla.org","blocklisted":false,"description":"Follow the operating system setting for buttons, menus, and windows.","name":"System theme — auto","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"1.3","scope":4,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":19928,"updateDay":19928},"activeGMPlugins":{}},"experiments":{"upgrade-spotlight-rollout":{"branch":"treatment","type":"nimbus-rollout"}}} TelemetryServerURL: https://incoming.telemetry.mozilla.org TelemetrySessionId: aba8ef58-e31e-4fc6-b7a6-a5473f7d83d7 Throttleable: 1 TotalPageFile: 136099627008 TotalPhysicalMemory: 67380154368 URL: https://www.google.com/maps?authuser=0 UptimeTS: 311.090528 UtilityProcessStatus: Running Vendor: Mozilla Version: 129.0 useragent_locale: en-US This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 9 259

How to easily disable annoying PKCS#11 pop-up when Yubikey is plugged in

Hi, I am using Firefox for Linux, and whenever my yubikey is plugged in, firefox will start bothering me for a pkcs#11 password. It always happens on start-up but it gets… (funda kabanzi)

Hi,

I am using Firefox for Linux, and whenever my yubikey is plugged in, firefox will start bothering me for a pkcs#11 password. It always happens on start-up but it gets relentlessly annoying if I happen to be on a site which potentially utilizes certificate auth, which I do not use this yubikey for.

I do however use it for 2fa, which does work perfectly fine.

How do I permanently stop whatever Firefox process keeps bothering me about this PKCS#11 password for functionality that I never use?

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 9 870

How to make Firefox remember my last file upload location?

When uploading files with Firefox, I click the upload button, and the file browser window appears to upload files. For as long as I can remember, it always defaulted to t… (funda kabanzi)

When uploading files with Firefox, I click the upload button, and the file browser window appears to upload files.

For as long as I can remember, it always defaulted to the last folder location that I uploaded a file, but just a few days ago, it stopped working, and always defaults to my home folder.

How can I make the upload window pop up, default to the last uploaded location? My OS is Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Kusonjululiwe 9 211

Firefox tabs don't get saved when closing Firefox - Version 145.0

Firefox version 145.0 in Linux Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS. When I open Firefox all tabs from previous session are gone. On "Startup" I have checked "Open previous windows and tab… (funda kabanzi)

Firefox version 145.0 in Linux Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS. When I open Firefox all tabs from previous session are gone. On "Startup" I have checked "Open previous windows and tabs". Which worked before but not now. It is very frustrating. How do I fix? The Profile Manager opens the settings and "Open previous windows and tabs" is checked. Checking "ask before closing multiple tabs" doesn't help.

Kusonjululiwe 9 563

Unable to Launch Firefox 3.5.19 On Linux Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS

Can’t launch Firefox 3.5.19 on Linux Ubuntu When trying to run with: ./firefox Terminal gives the following: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-… (funda kabanzi)

Can’t launch Firefox 3.5.19 on Linux Ubuntu When trying to run with:

./firefox

Terminal gives the following:

./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 8 527

Hi - Snap Version for Ubuntu frequently locks system on closing.

Ubuntu - I use the SNAP version of Firefox - I generally have lots of tabs open but only use 5 or so of them and it's generally fine.... but when I am closing Firefox, it… (funda kabanzi)

Ubuntu - I use the SNAP version of Firefox - I generally have lots of tabs open but only use 5 or so of them and it's generally fine.... but when I am closing Firefox, it USES like 100% of the CPU and ALL of the RAM and ALL of the SWAP memory when closing.

This locks up the computer.

Sometimes it doesn't quite go all the way but I can watch it all happen in real time, using Task Manager - and that shows a solidwall of all resources occouring, when the close Firefox is run.

I am told by research via ChatGPT that this is a very real problem with the SNAP version and it's best to change to the Debian version, copy all the bookmarks etc., across and then uninstall the SNAP version.

It's rather disconcerting to have Linux crash because of this one app locking it up and frequently.

Chat GPT:

Is there a problem with Firefox Snap Version closing and using all the resources while doing so, which results in locking up the computer?

You're definitely not imagining it—there have been reports of Firefox's Snap version consuming excessive system resources (CPU, memory) and even causing lockups or hangs, particularly during closure. Here's what’s going on and how to mitigate it:

What’s Happening with Firefox Snap?

2. Browser Hangs or Locks the System on Close

On Linux (especially Ubuntu), users have reported that closing Firefox can lead to it hanging in memory, sometimes unresponsive and still consuming resources.
Super User
Ask Ubuntu
A stark example from Reddit illustrates the severity:
“About 50% of the time I open Firefox, it'll reach 100% CPU usage in about 30 seconds… PC completely unusable unless I shutdown.”
Reddit

3. Known Wayland Sway Bug

On Wayland/Sway setups, reloading Sway while Firefox is open can trigger intense logging, causing high CPU use and an enormous syslog.
Fix: Set MOZ_DISABLE_WAYLAND_PROXY=1, or upgrade to FF 125 where the issue is addressed.
Reddit+1

Alternative Approach

Many users, particularly on Ubuntu, opt out of Snap completely in favor of the .deb package or PPA builds. These alternatives often avoid these specific issues. Ask Ubuntu Reddit

Thoughts? Solutions?

Thanks in advance.

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 8 221

Your browser is not currently supported - twitch.tv

I updated firefox through apt, and since then, have not been able to log into twitch I am on ubuntu 24 apt list --installed | grep firefox firefox/mozilla,now 144.0.2~bui… (funda kabanzi)

I updated firefox through apt, and since then, have not been able to log into twitch I am on ubuntu 24

apt list --installed | grep firefox firefox/mozilla,now 144.0.2~build1 amd64 [installed]

Attempting to log in returns the generic "Your browser is not currently supported"

Kusonjululiwe Okugcinwe kunqolobane 8 1450