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Thunderbird 138/139, Windows 11 Pro 23H2. While composing a message, after a few lines the app freezes. Both the compose window and the main TB window freeze. Only opening the Windows Task manager allows me to close them. This did not happen with earlier versions.

If I save the message every few seconds while composing I can get most of the message back and continue after restarting TB. This behavior is the same in both the normal and troubleshooting TB modes. I can't even find a crash log to send to Mozilla.

Where shall I look next?

Thank you!

Sending this using Safari because Firefox is totally messed up. Firefox 115.24.0esr (64-bit) OSX 10.13.6 High Sierra 2011 Mac Power Book (MPB) with 16 GB RAM. Verizon DSL line, download speed tests from 10-14 Gb/sec but Latency is always 400-900+ msec. No way to measure Jitter with speedtests that will run on my older system, or Bufferbloat now that DSLreports has gone dark.

I want a tool that will allow me to see all the attempts to connect, and packets/traffic, to see it its my old computer going bad, Firefox, the wireless or wired connection to the DSL modem/router, or the DLS modem/router itself, such as a problem with reaching the Domain Name Server (DNS) etc.

I can access the DSL modem/router in the browser, but there isn't much documentation. Its made by Actiontec but customized firmware for Verizon.

The problem persists whether I am using wifi or an Ethernet cable.

My wifes 2010 MBP computer with 8GB RAM using about 6.4GB, running High Sierra and Firefox 115.24.0 (esr) seems not to have the problem at all.

Firefox will show something in the lower left corner, "connecting to..." or "loading..." etc. It can stall with either status.

Search engines would be StartPage or DuckDuckgo. With DDgo, sometimes it just spins forever, but if I click on the URL bar, it drops down another line with the same URL and "--Visit" appended. Sometimes that will load, but seems random.

Some URLs / links open in a few seconds, some spin forever.

I first called Verizon Tech support on May22 about problems (see full exchange of repeated calls & new trouble tickets below). I think, IIRC, this happens to be shortly after I upgraded my Firefox version. They have admitted to PINGs not returning, packet loss, no excuse for the Latency.

I do have a lot of pages/tabs open; Activity Monitor says my memory use is about 14GB, but the Memory Pressure stays low in the green. I also run Thunderbird, TextEdit, maybe Adobe Reader and Excel. But even when I close everything else, the non-loading issue persists. When I shut down Firefox, the memory pressure can go into the red and take a very long time (so I always shut down all other apps first). A recent shutdown stalled & I ended up losing many open pages/tabs, but even the slimmed down load has the same problem.

I have shut off the AddOn NoScript, but the problem persists.

FILE: verizon DSL tech support WED 21MAY25 glacially slow web page connection

800-837-4966 AGENT DSL tech support

failing the PING reset my IP address still fails PING

trouble ticket MDHM03KR7A

2-3 working days for networking team to resolve

THUR 22MAY25 call back from networking guy. they raised the speed to 13.4 but latency still 28, he says should be 15 max. Asked him to optimize by reducing download speed. will call back later or tomorrow.

For the last 2ish months, Firefox will refresh the page if I just place my finger on the screen.

If I put my finger on the screen (not swiping down) the refresh wheel will pop up and refresh the page.

It doesn't happen all the time, maybe once or twice a day, but it happens on every page and causes me to lose stuff like where I was on a page and what I was typing. It doesn't do it when the keyboard is up.

Any suggestion as to what's wrong with it?

I've downloaded the program to a second computer and put in my creditials and it's giving me an error "unable to log in at server. Probably wrong configuration, username or password." I've entered the correct info. Help