Komunitné fórum Firefox

With the new terrible CEO, there are plans to start integrating AI into firefox. If this happens, I'll ditch this browser in a heartbeat. Its a terrible decision to add this and this AI bubble will burst.

I use firefox as my browser of choice because it seems to be the only large browser not yet completely flooded with AI slop and bloatware. I'm incredibly disappointed that the new direction seems to be "becoming a modern AI browser". I don't care if I can opt-in or opt-out of AI tools for my personal browser experience - simply their presence presents a safety, efficiency, ethical and privacy concern.

The ONE THING that puts firefox above other browsers and why it is gaining more users recently is because it hasn't jumped into the AI-toilet along with Chrome etc. Yet. If Firefox moves forward with the implementation of more AI tools, regardless of individual opt-in options, I will have no choice but to stop using firefox. I am simply not interested in wading through excrement.

Do Mozilla really have no idea why their browser is considered a better alternative to other browsers? Why do they insist on making their browser WORSE for the sake of jumping on the latest stupid tech trend!? Some new tech that makes everything it's used in perform considerably worse? Oh boy sounds like the perfect thing for firefox! If this keeps up I'm looking into a browser that's at least more open about the fact it doesn't care.

Hello, I choose to use Firefox because it does not have the amount of bloat and spyware that exist with other browsers. I fear that the recent call to add AI to the browser's functions will both slow the processing time down as well as increase the amount of spyware involved. I cannot see how this is a positive for the future of Firefox. All I can say definitively at this point is that should AI functions be added in I will be finding a way to never use them, even if it means kneecapping things for other functionality in the process. I will also be keeping an eye out for extensions or addons that remove the AI, as I have already with other AI online.

For a long time I have been using Firefox, because of its performance and customizability. I detest that modern companies have to shove AI into any program even where it is uterly useless. I already don't like the current AI that Firefox has already added. Firefox has alreay lost a lot of my trust in recent years. Should Firefox continue with adding more AI features, I will be switching to a better browser.

I read that your new CEO is pro use of AI and doubling down on wanting to implement it. Meanwhile the literal main reason most people I know to use Firefox is that it doesn't have AI slopware. I really urge anyone capable of doing so to help reconsider a decision that is going to let down long-time users such as myself. It is getting harder and harder to avoid data leaks and security risks, and until now, Firefox seemed to have been the best browser for these purposes. I don't want to switch, but if you do this, I will have to.

Firefox has been the best way to browse the internet. If the new CEO thinks that the people that use Firefox want ai then he is sorely mistaken. Duckduckgo has an option to turn ai off, I already use it as a search engine, it might be time to switch to the browser if Mozilla goes more into ai.

I am going to be brutally honest here: I'm militantly anti-AI and think its proliferation has caused innumerable issues societally, including offloading simple cognitive tasks or questions that could have been directed towards actual living breathing people being instead handed over to something that doesn't know what words even mean, just where they might go in a sentence. Many people share my concerns, and have voiced them across social media, and have gone out of their way to criticise and take a stand against what we see as a plague.

So it is with much frustration that I find out Mozilla are aiming to turn Firefox into "a modern AI browser", per new Mozilla CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo's first blog post in the role. I have already gone out of my way to turn off as much of the AI nonsense in Firefox as I can — even downloading a plugin to remove the Google Gemini summaries, because they're all less than useless and absolutely defeat the point of using Google in the first place — and now here we are; it's going to be shoved down our throats, whether we wanted it or not (which, of course, many of us didn't).

I didn't anticipate that this would be the thing that forces me to make an account for the support forum of all things, because my experience of Firefox up to this point (an experience spanning almost as long as Firefox has existed) has been a largely positive experience, and I even make use of Thunderbird for my email needs. Now, all of this is being swept aside because of corporate greed and an outright rejection of its userbase.

This same userbase is very strongly and vocally against this, and it is within our power — even if we don't necessarily want to have to do so — to move elsewhere. Therefore, I urge Mozilla and its leadership to read the goddamn room and recognise that we don't want this, stop forcing it upon us, and focus on being a browser that is nice to use without having to rely on the Infinite Plagiarism Machine to do it.

If there is no about-turn on this or almost prostrated assurances that you would have to directly opt in (not out, but in, specifically; as in, I would have to turn everything on myself to even see a single bit of it) to this otherwise seemingly enforced "modern AI browser" experience, I will stop using both Firefox and Thunderbird and will actively recommend against them. I've already gone some distance towards excising the likelihood of encountering AI in my life, and I will continue to do so if I have to, even if it comes at the cost of software I've been using ever since I was a teenager.

Your call, Mozilla.

Choose responsibly.

I have many, MANY issues with LLMs, but a lot of them come down to this: I don't want my computer doing things that can't be fully tracked down in logs.

LLMs and other "ai" aren't traceable, and their outputs aren't truly repeatable: their information comes from loose associative heuristics that don't follow any kind of human logic, and they are inherently prone to erroneous data. Even if there was an ai that was right 99% of the time (which is currently impossible, with all existing models being at MOST 50% accurate), I wouldn't want to use it if it couldn't show me exactly where its information came from, without errors and without hallucinations, every time.

There's enough misinformation on the internet as it is. I don't want my browser, the vehicle I use to navigate information, adding more.

In addition, I don't really want my bank account information stolen when I read a Reddit post, thanks.

I am an IT proofessional in a large city. As such, I make sure people have Firefox installed and use it. I tell everyone that it is the best browser with the highest security and it's not beholden to corporate BS.

I want to let you know that if you shoehorn AI into Firefox, I will uninstall it from every computer in the city. Artificial Intelligence as it is now is a security risk, a HUGE waste of energy, and also wrong somewhere around 50% of the time. I already have to disable and uninstall microsoft AI crap because it eats resources like fire burning through a forest. Why is this what you want Firefox to become?

You are shooting yourselves in the foot with this. I don't care how much money you've invested on its development, drop it now. You're already the browser with the absolute smallest market share in the industry. Why would you ensure that NO ONE uses the one thing you actually do? Or do you think going AI-first will somehow push you ahead in the game?

Read the room, man. No end user wants AI. The only reason it's used at all is because it is in EVERYTHING. No one can get away from it. People use it by accident and corporate bigwigs call that a win. And it really is crammed into everything, too. At least once a week I have to find some new little AI toy to disable so someone's computer doesn't tell them to jump off a bridge or something.

I am pleading with you to stop.

You really don't need to answer this thread. There's just no way to privately send a message to Firefox for someone to read. I hope you pass this along.

Hi there volunteering person! This is obviously not pointed at you. That being said..

No one wants AI. Your ceo is too rich to care about his customer base and like Duolingo, people who came to this browser to get away from The Chrome of it All, and here you go following in their idiotic footsteps. Revise AI usage and save the trust you can still hold

Firefox is already a product that works and is probably the best alternative to any of the other major browsers out there. It's a product that I've been happy to use for many, many years. So why is it being ruined by this needless push to add in "AI"? I don't want it. I don't want any part of it to touch my experience using this browser. I want either an easy way to completely turn it off so it can't suck up my data and expose my private information, or not have it be included at all. I will actively be looking for alternative browsers if these plans continue.

In light of the new CEO's stance on AI, I am STRONGLY considering leaving Firefox for a different browser. AI is inherently anti-privacy, anti-security, and against everything I stand for. I sincerely hope that Firefox backtracks on this pro-AI decision, as I want nothing to do with anyone who supports slop like that

I am looking for confirmation that Mozilla is moving to an 'AI browser'.

Will there be an option to not use this data harvesting LLM garbage or will mozilla be abandoning their core values?

Since the new CEO of Firefox seems to be very determined to add more AI features to the browser that I've been using (among other things) specifically to escape AI slop, I will be considering switching to another browser. It will be disheartening to abandon the browser I've been using for years, but I value my personal data (and cpu) too much to let an AI handle it. I appreciated his words that it would be "Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off", but I strongly believe that all AI browsers are inherently insecure. The first AI feature that I can't make completely disappear forever with one click will be my sign to switch browsers. Hopefully, Firefox re-thinks its approach and decides not to destroy the exact thing that makes it so valuable - the commitment to protect the users' privacy.

I'm sick of AI infecting everything. I JUST started moving to firefox to escape the shoving down my throat of AI and ADs that plagues everything. And now to hear that the new CEO wants to shove down even more AI? That's infuriating. No one really wants this, the people that do have something to gain, ulterior motives or don't understand just how bad it is. Not to mention the data scraping that I don't consent to.

I've seen that this browser has potential, that has a relative ease of access for people to get the experience they want. But this AI shoving is ruining that, and it's driving users away. I do not like having to jump through hoops to avoid AI but I will. It's slowing down the browser and causing even more lack of privacy! We already have so little in this modern area, it's terrible to do more.

The sad part is, is that I know there are people that run the browser that don't want this. It's the people up top who put their money into AI, thinking it's the next big thing, and are trying to make it that so their money doesn't just get yanked away. When it will anyway. AI, generative specifically, is awful. I hate the AI overviews, I hate AI 'support' in everything. In social media, in online shopping, in just damn chats. I refuse to use it. It's horrible, it's nothing but bloatware.

So I hope that this new guy will actually listen to the people that use the browser and stop it with his stupid AI stuff. There is NO room for AI browsers, there never will be room for them. And I will NEVER trust an AI browser or whatever stuff an AI pulls up, because they will pull up nonsense. They will pull up what you WANT to hear, not the actual facts. Do better, this is a disappointment.

I have been unable to find an email address, so I am turning to this forum to express my disgust at the incoming CEO's comments, namely "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions."

Firefox's appeal as an alternative to Edge, Chrome, etc. is its respect for user privacy and control. Adopting AI tools into the browser itself is a betrayal of that respect, and will eliminate Firefox's advantages over rival browsers. If users want an AI browser, they already have that option. They want, instead, a browser that allows then to control their own experience and data. I beg the Mozilla foundation to actually do some research into your own market so you will learn that people hate LLM slop in their internet browsing.

Adopting AI tools will damage Mozilla's reputation as an organization worthy of respect. What's more, it will contribute to the further erosion of trust in information on the internet that AI has caused, because *LLMs lie and steal*. This is more than just a market mistake, this is an ethical mistake.

There is still time to change course. Do not follow Chrome and Edge into AI delusion.

I did not ask for to have intrusive AI slop put in our browsers.

I literally switched over to Firefox for very specific reasons. I stopped using other browsers, such as chrome and other chromium based browsers, because they eventually got filled with AI bloatware slop that didn't really add anything to how we use the internet browsers

Firefox literally had something going on that stood out from rest of the market, and now you're willing enough to throw it all away for short-term gains to be made off the AI bubble? Firefox could've been the market leader in having a simple browser with no AI slop or general bloat added.

Not to mention the fact that AI is just straight up invasive as its basically just thinly veiled attempt to get more sensitive data harvested off users, to produce more money without paying compensation for the time used on the browser. In addition to opening up vectors for identity theft and fraud.

Once again, why is it absolutely necessary to have AI in the browser?

I hope this goes somewhere, like a representative email or something. But I use firefox because it's user and cpu friendly, and it isn't spying on me like Google. I can disable so many analytics and have privacy extensions. Re: your new CEO's intro article, I find it infringing upon my privacy to force AI features on my browser like this. Your primary userbase does not want this.