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The only reason I have been using firefox all this time because it does not use ai features and has more trustworthy policies for user data. Given the recent ceo change and his opinions about ai features if it is true and ai is added I will stop using this browser and I know a lot of people will also do it.

So I've recently seen some stuff on my social media about Mozilla's new CEO talking about pushing AI into Firefox. And WTF?!

Is this some sort of stupid corporate bullshit or just a delayed April Fool's joke?!

There is literally NO CONCEIVABLE REASON for introducing AI into ANY browser, let alone Firefox. I started using Firefox over 15 years ago for the personalisaton features and readily available add ons and to date it's still the best browser I've used.

To my knowledge, a lot of people have recently switched to Firefox in order to avoid the unnecessary/unwanted spyware and bloatware that comes baked into most other browsers and this seems like a massive middle finger to them. The only reason I can see to introduce AI is either because you want to lose users, or are so desperate for cash you're willing to fuck over everything and everyone to get it.

Hi there!

I'm a long time user of Firefox, on and off since roughly 2004.

I just saw the Mozilla blog post about Anthony Enzor-Demeo taking over as Mozilla's CEO this morning and am writing here in an attempt to find a way to reach out to anyone within the Mozilla Foundation regarding the direction the Firefox application has been headed, and try to make myself and similar minds within the Firefox community heard about the changes that Mozilla has made to its policies and direction.

In February 27th of this year, Mozilla changed Firefox's ToS and Privacy Notices to incorporate legally binding policies for the application and strip it of its original privacy-first, open-source nature. This, while not a deterministic factor in how the application operates; illustrates a sudden, outward and hostile stance towards its existing user-base who is most commonly comprised of users dissatisfied with the lack of secure and private browser options available. Personally, I refuse to use Chromium-based web engines wherever possible and Firefox has been my one and only way to break from this "monopoly" of web engines.

Beginning to harvest user data for use by Mozilla and claiming ownership of any user content is immediately a massive breach of trust and contradicts what Mozilla as an organization has stood for since its inception. Going a step further to utilize this data to either be sold to advertisers as an asset, or to be used to train LLM's is exactly what I DON'T want to have happen with my data. I hate that this change happened and it massively reduced my trust in Mozilla and Firefox as a platform.

I never asked for this, Mozilla promised that it would never happen, and now I'm left betrayed by broken promises made with the express intent to turn a profit on my behalf as a user.

In Anthony's blog post, he mentions how AI has reshaped how people search, shop and make decisions in ways that were hard to see or understand. I outwardly disagree with this statement and feel as though AI has "infected" its way through society by brute force, being put in front of every user and shoved in every application. LLM's are not a catchall solution, do not help resolve issues in new and innovative ways, and are massively misused, causing excessive resource usage, gutting consumer markets, and decimating the tech industry by causing excessive amounts of data centers and global tech inventories to be purchased and built with no promise of delivery.

While I may want a fast, modern browser that is honest about what it does- I want that with no obscurity. I want a web engine that is open source, as lightweight and minimal in its design and coding as possible; and with no bureaucracy. I want to know how the engine works, to have the option to review its codebase front to back, to have my data stay as my data on my own local machine without providing it to a third party simply by using an application. Mozilla with its changes since February of this year have removed this as a possibility from their entire application suite.

I don't want AI in my browser- AT ALL. I have disabled it in every capacity that I can (frustratingly too, as these are all enabled by default and FORCE me to provide you my data without express consent.) and with every advancement Mozilla makes towards calling it "the future" and "the focal point", I lose trust. I don't want AI, I want the old privacy policy put back, and I really, well and truly and wholly, DO NOT WANT AI.

I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS, IT'S RUINING OUR LIVES, OUR SOCIETY, OUR PLANET, AND I WANT IT GONE.

Unless Mozilla stops this direction today, I will be seeking out new options, disallowing Firefox usage in any corporate environments within my jurisdiction, and actively informing friends, family and acquaintances of Mozilla and Firefox's fall from grace, and to utilize other user-centric options.

Thank you for your attention, have a great day, and I hope Mozilla can create action that will allow its users to trust it once again.

Tell me how to delete all my comments that I have made at Mozilla. None of my comments are valid and I wish to have them all deleted.

If you can please delete them for me.

Dennis Coleman

• • • @gmail.com (cencored by mod)

I am so tired of everything getting some half baked language learning model shoved into it where it doesn't need anything. This browser used to be the safe alternative that won't sell your data. Its the main reason i switched to it. Now our data is being fed to a stupid AI.

I already turned off everything relating to it. But I shouldn't have had to. This sucks.

I had chess scores and high level thinfags i had done I wanna be able to save them even if there locked i don't give my email to just anyone because its always full but I keep scoring high close on chess and your browser keeps deleting it. Now I could do it on a normal tabe but its capped and if you cant do it I know Google has the ability I just tested it out yesterday and they have a save incognito tabs with pin options so if tou guys cant help me and give me my lost game scores and elo im deleting the app permanently today and just switching to Google, Thanks for reading Ps this happened yesterday and there was a screen lock and I chose yours because I thought it still might be easier but the screen lock went away and now I lost all of the hard work I put in thats very frustrating

Hello,

I had a TB crash, and clicked "OK" to submit the crash data before realizing all the "include data" options already checked.

How can I get Mozilla to remove this crash data from their site?

Thank you.

I have periodically popups with Firefox.

I tried to block popups with the following procedure :
   click on "parametres"
   in the left of the window, click on  "vie privée et sécurité"
   look for "permissions" 
   ask for blocking  popups

After all this, I still have popups. What should I do ? Thanks in advance Francis Prusker

mail : [edited email from community support forum]

Why did you guys have to go and update the privacy policy 😠 I've been going around telling everyone it's a no brainer to switch from chrome to Firefox because chrome uses your data for its own purposes, and now I have to put all that on hold until we all figure out the new scheme you're cooking.

This choice is causing you to vacate your corner of the market. On any browser ranking, and I've read several since this policy change, the benefits of Firefox are always that it's the mainstream browser with good privacy practices. That's been the only benefit of Firefox over chrome for a long time. If you want inspiration to get back on board, look at what happened to D&D when they changed their license, or Unity when they changed their license.

Don't lose out on your market share. Mozilla AI isn't worth it.

I've noticed over time Mozilla has become less focused on consumer privacy and more focused corporate interests.

My questions are to you developers of Mozilla.

Would you have reached success in the past using this model?

I've noticed a corporate trend of brands being consumer friendly in the beginning of their history then over time snubbing the customers in favor of getting paid to sell data to corporate interests, data brokers and government entities.

Should we trust you?

I've been using Firefox for almost 20 years and anyone can agree that this browser isn't getting better over time.

Can you provide a list of all the third parties you deal with selling our data?

I have a nagging feeling this isn't the browser it used to be and some of us will need to change to a less corporate focused browser to protect our data, since it seems you aren't interested in that model anymore.

Trying to use Thunderbird after break of some years and want to use Proton Mail. Every time I try to set it up I get message 'the certificate 127.0.0.1does not come from trusted source'. Previous experience of Thunderbird was that there were frequent issues like this arising.

Was it a fact or fake story that my information was sold for so much money to companies to what with it? I need the above confirmation so I don't ever attend to this trick next time.