Hello, try this: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

Mkll said

Hello, try this: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

Well, it's a hell of a roundabout solution, but it is a solution. Thank you!

With that out of the way, it looks like I can (kinda) get back to work, or at least take stock of everything that's missing. What a day.

Again, thank you!

Mkll said

Hello, try this: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

None of this explains how to get text instead of icons in toolbars, and seems to imply that it is impossible to do so.

laurencehexamer said

Mkll said

Hello, try this: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

None of this explains how to get text instead of icons in toolbars, and seems to imply that it is impossible to do so.

Having gone through the CSS in MKII's link (and getting a crash course from a colleague on using it, as CSS is not my forte) it appears this pack is more about changing the location of items, their colors, and their groupings. In my case, I just wanted everything put back in the upper left the way it's been for years, and given a few hours to work with it, I did get it working mostly like it used to. I'm not so sure what's so "Fast for good" about repetitive coding just to set up my work-space; but that's a ramble for another time and website.

While I believe that given enough time a solution to do what you want is possible, the problem lies in that you'd have to build the code to attack each icon individually, then execute them in a string... in laymans terms, you'd have to be (or become) a genuine CSS programmer to get this to work the way you want. Though I can see why Firefox is boasting that this new Firefox is infinitely more customizable than the last version, it's also well above the skill level of most users- if I didn't have some limited coding experience from other programs, I know I would be sunk.

The best advice I can offer would be to use a different browser (Opera is pretty close to Firefox stylistically speaking) until a better solution is cooked up by a community developer, or until Mozilla patches this, in my opinion, utterly ludicrous gap in functionality.

I hope we all get some real solutions soon. In the meantime, best wishes finding something that gets your icons turned into text. Good luck laurencehexamer!

Best solution - go back to firefox 56 - it all works! DO NOT UPDATE until the classic theme restorer prob is fixed.

Rosie12 said

Best solution - go back to firefox 56 - it all works! DO NOT UPDATE until the classic theme restorer prob is fixed.

classic theme restorer isn't going to be fixed, The developer of that extension has let it die; too much of CTR isn't possible to do in Quantum. Overall, learning to use userChrome.css is necessary to get many of the features that CTR offered in the past. The developer of CTR - Aris - created this webpage for Custom CSS to do mods in Quantum that are similar to mods that were in CTR. https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx Here's another 'take' on the subject. https://www.userchrome.org/ And yet, another couple. https://www.howtogeek.com/334716/how-to-customize-firefoxs-user-interface-with-userchrome.css/ https://fosspost.org/tutorials/how-to-customize-firefox-57-user-interface

It is not possible to put text into toolbars in place of icons with css. And even after the first revision, it still cannot render Facebook notifications correctly. And of course going to chrome is a sarcastic suggestion, since avoiding chrome is the only reason to have Firefox.

What are the Mozilla branches that are viable?

There are no "Mozilla branches".

There is SeaMonkey that is hosted by Mozilla, but is a separate organization. It is based upon Firefox, but includes an email client and New Reader application.

There are some 3rd party builds that are based upon Firefox open-source code that use the Gecko browser engine, but none from Mozilla. Comodo IceDragon, Tor Browser, and Waterfox, that I have heard of.

There are also some browsers that started out as being based upon Firefox a few years ago, but those have gone off in their own direction. PaleMoon and Basilisk are based upon the Goanna browser engine, an off-shoot of Gecko.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers

Thanks, edmeister, for listing possible alternatives and fixes. The last time Firefox did this to its otherwise loyal users, I changed to Pale Moon and stayed there for a couple of years. Then I encountered an irritating problem. Some major sites, such as my bank, now will only work with a few best-known browsers, generally IE, FF, Chrome... This seems to me a monopoly practice, but I can't do anything about it. So I gradually returned to FF, using CTR to cure my main issue, preferring Tabs under rather than over.

So I'm furious that Firefox has done this to us again, overturned all our fixes and making us start again. Why didn't it learn from last time?! I'm sure this total makeover isn't necessary, and they don't even make money from it, since the browser is free.

Thus far, I've just restored back to version 56 while I try to figure out what to do. I deleted automatic updates, which means I have to decline update at least once every time I use FF. As a user and not an expert, I'd never heard of userChrome.css, and my initial effort to understand and use it came to naught. Maybe I'll just switch to Chrome. If FF insists on playing copycat instead of rewarding those who prefer something different, I might as well just try to get used to the real thing.

Firefox 57 shows a menu list similar to what the (orange) Firefox button showed instead of the customizable icons used in Firefox 56 and earlier. There are changes and you need to click folders expand them and then close them by clicking another arrow at the top, so not really convenient that you can't hover items to open a sub menu.

See also:

• https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/application-menu/

laurencehexamer said

It is not possible to put text into toolbars in place of icons with css.

I'm not sure why you say that. One of the many options on the Classic CSS site is a set of rules that does exactly that. The trick is finding the relevant parts and "un-commenting" the key line(s). You'll see it here on line 408 (as of this writing):

https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx/blob/master/classic/userChrome.css#L406

/* @import url(./css/toolbars/toolbar_mode_text.css); /**/

If you have installed this full set of files, removing /* from the beginning of that line should give you text in place of icons at your next Firefox startup.

If you are NOT using that full set of files, you could use the following excerpt from a Dec. 10th post:

If you do not have any userChrome.css file:

(1) Create a new folder named chrome in your Firefox profile folder. That is Steps #1 - #3 on this page:

https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html

(2) I extracted the specific CTR rules for text buttons on the toolbar and saved them here:

https://www.userchrome.org/samples/userChrome-TextOnlyOnToolbar.css

Save that file somewhere and then move it into the chrome folder.

(3) Right-click > rename userChrome-TextOnlyOnToolbar.css to just userChrome.css.

(4) The next time you start Firefox, it will discover the userChrome.css file and modify the appearance of the toolbar.

If you already have a userChrome.css file:

You can copy the contents of the following rule file and paste them at the end of your existing userChrome.css file:

https://www.userchrome.org/samples/userChrome-TextOnlyOnToolbar.css

Notes:

If you have too many long label items, you can right-click > Pin to Overflow Menu to move them to the >> button list.

Screenshot: https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/media/uploads/images/2017-12-10-21-38-46-f6332c.png